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You're an unusual Conservative Iconoclast.

Most Conservatives I know distrust the government until it's a person with a gun, a blue clown suit and a police union with qualified immunity. Then suddenly that distrust turns into blind unquestioning trust for these vallorious truth telling Nights in White Satin.

I suspect Daddy issues, but the world may never know.

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Not always - I am right leaning but as I have said several times before, I am not the "back the blue" types as I believe spineless cops who only listen to what their boss tells them instead of upholding the constitution are the same ones who will probably one day arrive at your door step to disarm you - just like they did with arresting innocent business owners who just tried to make a living over the last year. You could hold a back the blue rally and police would stand by and watch as Antifa decapitates you and then curbstomp your severed head because it doesn’t have a mask on it.

But despite this, Chauvin did not get a fair trial and this was a lynching by the mob trial. We are not defending Chauvin here, we are trying to defend a tiny bit of integrity in the already politicized justice system.

I know several other conservatives who feel similarly.

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So whats different about this than simi valley in the early 1990s?

The first trial for Stacy Koon and company was rigged for the police. The second was rigged against them.

What about the OJ trial? How about Jeffrey Epstein? How about Louis Greco?

Where does this perception of fair trials come from? Oh right the same media we all agree has been lying to us forever. LOL.

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I had a long conversation with a police chief recently. He was lamenting the focus on managing the numbers. It was an eye opener. After much back and forth, I suggested that managing to #of tickets written accomplishes nothing that furthers the department's real goal, safety for its community. He asked me what the alternative was and I told him to focus on two things:

1. What is the actual goal of the PD? To set ticket quotas or to achieve some level of safety / security for the community? I suggested agreeing with community leaders on what the PD's real objectives were.

2. Once you have the real objectives identified, discuss, amongst actual professionals, what is the PROCESS for achieving those objectives? Then identify and agree with patrol on what the process steps are to achieve those objectives (similar to an 8d used in engineering and statistical process control) and then coach the shit out of those techniques. Rinse / repeat and agree with patrol on up on what good process is. Then identify what those techniques are and identify what "numbers" within that process actually = success. Focus on continuously improving adherence to those techniques. Also, read some Deming or Juran.

Interestingly enough...he agreed. There is hope. One Chief at a time. I'll be talking to him some ore.

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Maybe because unlike most conservatives sitting in the suburbs I've spent weeks in county locked up with real criminals. I've seen what crime and police and bullshit do on every side and every side is being full of shit about reality.

I dont trust the government period. I don't trust the police because I've seen them lie, steal, rob and kill for decades with no accountability. Just like EVERY SINGLE GOVERNMENT GROUP.

They are just a front facing one so its more in your face every day when they do it.

Not sure where your "daddy issues" comment comes from, but I suspect its because you don't know who yours is.

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Looks like you and I share a similar experience in this area. This is not something that can be faked. You can tell when someone distrusts the government on a theoretical level and when someone has personal experience with unaccountable government corruption.

You're right, I never met my father. I did meet your mother a few times though.

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I do see some common ground.

Unfortunately I don't have a mother. My father and I do share yours though.

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Distrust of government without reasonable checks and balances is a healthy thing. I wish more Americans questioned the governments stance on everything, but especially foreign policy.

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