Baselessly accusing people of being Russian agents and weaponizing accusations of sexual misconduct are reputation-destroying cancers at the heart of liberal discourse.
The TYT guys accusing Aaron Mate of being a paid shill for Russia or other dictators can be seen as a possible case of projection. In other words, it’s the TYTers who are on someone’s payroll, for example the CIA or the DNC, and are projecting their own sins upon an adversary. Of course, I can’t prove it, but I think it is far more likely than their smear of Aaron.
Seriously, one has to wonder WTF is going on here ... are people in influential positions being taken, one by one, to the woodshed and being threatened with loss of livelihood, or life, including even their families, and God knows what else I can't even dream of? Why is *no one* in truly high authority on the Left speaking out these days, and risking (essentially) their lives to say the emperor has no clothes? (save just Tulsi Gabbard? who paid the price) It must be more than that they are just unwitting victims of the ongoing psy-op...
Excellent article - Just yesterday I had an insane BLM psycho take a screenshot of a post I made saying that perhaps the issues isn’t systematic racism but underlying issues that need to be addressed— an opinion- this out of control lunatic wrote a review of my business calling me a racist AND wrote that I was a racist on a CLIENTS IG account. I’m sick of these morons trying to ruin people’s lives. This as got to stop
Also as a female I’m offended that this young Turks person is weaponizing this. If it was a problem- she should have addressed before not weaponized it when it was convenient for her.
Thanks Glenn. Great job as usual. These Russiophobes, purveryors of ad hominem attacks and other assorted attack dogs are the rear guard of the empire. They are vicious and trained to go for the throat in order to keep their masters ahead of the growing awareness in our culture that the only moral certainty is in truth, and that is not found in the cult of media, hate filled political prejudice and especially not among the powers that be, the global elite. The irrationality of these attacks bears witness to their lack of substance, although if one remains chained to the main stream story such attacks are taken as verity. However, there is a strong and growing core in this country and around the world who know or are beginning to know better and are thankful for your strong and clear voice among others.
Very simply I'll take Aaron Mate's assessment, a highly esteemed journalist who writes for the Nation, on the situation in Syria which has been substantiated by others as well, over a commentator who feels the need to resort to F.U.'s as she accuses those who expose her ignorance with accusations of being tied to dictators and paid by the Russians.
This should be educational moment for those, like Caitlin Johnstone and Glenn Greenwald, who think DemocRATS and liberals are on the left. They are not, and yet you both conflate them regularly. Let me help: Cenk is a shit lib grifter. Mate is a leftist journalist. Nothing in common.
Are these people adults'? Last time I heard stuff like this was by a couple of kids in class who were arguing over what some other kid had supposedly said, no evidence, no facts, no evidence, nada. Immature twits must watch this, and that's how they make their money. Of course, most of the left makes money from immature twits so why would I expect any less.
This was totally predictable. When one abandons principles of due process, presumed innocence and data based decision making to take down your political foes it is only a matter of time before you will get caught in it. You can see it through history most vividly in the French Revolution. I am not sure France ever recovered. Regardless of your political affiliation we will suffer from this
"An Ugly War Among [Neo-] LIBERAL YouTubers Shows Two Common, Toxic Pathologies Plaguing U.S. Politics"
There, Fixed It For Ya!
Neo-Liberals are NOT "left." This is just YET ANOTHER failure of the undying attempt to put ALL politics into a singularly left vs right continuum. It's a limited tool, and it outright fails in instances just like this - and of increasing frequency in today's world.
Glenn, I have to say, your outrage at this point is too little and too late. The only reason this seems to have attracted your attention is because it's one left wing group going after one of their own, and perhaps you feel there's a power imbalance between the Young Turks and Mate.
Why is it okay that the mainstream media has been doing this to conservative outlets for the better part of a decade? I'll grant that some conservative outlets attempt to strike back. Of course they do. But, the truth is, our mainstream news is dominated by the Left. And, by "mainstream," I'm including the CNNs and ABCs, but also the YouTubes and Facebooks of the world. It would be silly to argue that these are not mainstream outlets these days.
They not only villify anyone on the right, smearing them with falsehoods they know cannot be backed up, but they go further. They deplatform and demonetize those on the right. There is no reciprocal response from conservatives because they don't control those levers of power.
So, yes, I'm sure there are differences between Turks vs. Mate, on one hand, and liberal news vs. conservative news, on the other. But, for a variety of reasons, what the Left has been doing to the Right is far worse than a few casual accusations the Turks make against Mate. So, I reject the idea that this last episode is entitled to special scrutiny. It is a small microcosm of what the Left has been up to, but there are far more prominent and numerous examples that matter much more than an intra-ideology squabble like this.
Another excellent job by Greenwald to lay bare our dysfuntional media. But at the end of the day, it is not the corporate media or the fake "journalists" like Uygur and Kasparian that are at fault. It is the lobotomized Americans that cannot and do not think about what they consume in the media. BTW, Aaron Mate is one of the stellar journalists that we have in this country today.
Cenk, Ana, Rachel Maddow and their ilk represent a fifth column within the progressive movement (such as it is). They owe their success and their prosperity to the Democratic Party establishment and, hence, they are fiercely loyal to it. Though they may sound like progressives, they are the opposite--corporatists, regime change enthusiasts and warmongers. Somehow, they have captured the minds of many liberal Democrats who swallow their lies and slanders whole, no chewing required. Independent thinkers see right through their bullshit, but, sadly, there aren't many such people in the Democratic Party.
The attack on Tulsi Gabbard stands out as one of the worst recently.
The TYT guys accusing Aaron Mate of being a paid shill for Russia or other dictators can be seen as a possible case of projection. In other words, it’s the TYTers who are on someone’s payroll, for example the CIA or the DNC, and are projecting their own sins upon an adversary. Of course, I can’t prove it, but I think it is far more likely than their smear of Aaron.
Seriously, one has to wonder WTF is going on here ... are people in influential positions being taken, one by one, to the woodshed and being threatened with loss of livelihood, or life, including even their families, and God knows what else I can't even dream of? Why is *no one* in truly high authority on the Left speaking out these days, and risking (essentially) their lives to say the emperor has no clothes? (save just Tulsi Gabbard? who paid the price) It must be more than that they are just unwitting victims of the ongoing psy-op...
Excellent article - Just yesterday I had an insane BLM psycho take a screenshot of a post I made saying that perhaps the issues isn’t systematic racism but underlying issues that need to be addressed— an opinion- this out of control lunatic wrote a review of my business calling me a racist AND wrote that I was a racist on a CLIENTS IG account. I’m sick of these morons trying to ruin people’s lives. This as got to stop
Also as a female I’m offended that this young Turks person is weaponizing this. If it was a problem- she should have addressed before not weaponized it when it was convenient for her.
Thanks Glenn. Great job as usual. These Russiophobes, purveryors of ad hominem attacks and other assorted attack dogs are the rear guard of the empire. They are vicious and trained to go for the throat in order to keep their masters ahead of the growing awareness in our culture that the only moral certainty is in truth, and that is not found in the cult of media, hate filled political prejudice and especially not among the powers that be, the global elite. The irrationality of these attacks bears witness to their lack of substance, although if one remains chained to the main stream story such attacks are taken as verity. However, there is a strong and growing core in this country and around the world who know or are beginning to know better and are thankful for your strong and clear voice among others.
Very simply I'll take Aaron Mate's assessment, a highly esteemed journalist who writes for the Nation, on the situation in Syria which has been substantiated by others as well, over a commentator who feels the need to resort to F.U.'s as she accuses those who expose her ignorance with accusations of being tied to dictators and paid by the Russians.
This should be educational moment for those, like Caitlin Johnstone and Glenn Greenwald, who think DemocRATS and liberals are on the left. They are not, and yet you both conflate them regularly. Let me help: Cenk is a shit lib grifter. Mate is a leftist journalist. Nothing in common.
Are these people adults'? Last time I heard stuff like this was by a couple of kids in class who were arguing over what some other kid had supposedly said, no evidence, no facts, no evidence, nada. Immature twits must watch this, and that's how they make their money. Of course, most of the left makes money from immature twits so why would I expect any less.
This was totally predictable. When one abandons principles of due process, presumed innocence and data based decision making to take down your political foes it is only a matter of time before you will get caught in it. You can see it through history most vividly in the French Revolution. I am not sure France ever recovered. Regardless of your political affiliation we will suffer from this
McCarthyism. 🇷🇺 Sad.
"An Ugly War Among [Neo-] LIBERAL YouTubers Shows Two Common, Toxic Pathologies Plaguing U.S. Politics"
There, Fixed It For Ya!
Neo-Liberals are NOT "left." This is just YET ANOTHER failure of the undying attempt to put ALL politics into a singularly left vs right continuum. It's a limited tool, and it outright fails in instances just like this - and of increasing frequency in today's world.
Glenn, I have to say, your outrage at this point is too little and too late. The only reason this seems to have attracted your attention is because it's one left wing group going after one of their own, and perhaps you feel there's a power imbalance between the Young Turks and Mate.
Why is it okay that the mainstream media has been doing this to conservative outlets for the better part of a decade? I'll grant that some conservative outlets attempt to strike back. Of course they do. But, the truth is, our mainstream news is dominated by the Left. And, by "mainstream," I'm including the CNNs and ABCs, but also the YouTubes and Facebooks of the world. It would be silly to argue that these are not mainstream outlets these days.
They not only villify anyone on the right, smearing them with falsehoods they know cannot be backed up, but they go further. They deplatform and demonetize those on the right. There is no reciprocal response from conservatives because they don't control those levers of power.
So, yes, I'm sure there are differences between Turks vs. Mate, on one hand, and liberal news vs. conservative news, on the other. But, for a variety of reasons, what the Left has been doing to the Right is far worse than a few casual accusations the Turks make against Mate. So, I reject the idea that this last episode is entitled to special scrutiny. It is a small microcosm of what the Left has been up to, but there are far more prominent and numerous examples that matter much more than an intra-ideology squabble like this.
Another excellent job by Greenwald to lay bare our dysfuntional media. But at the end of the day, it is not the corporate media or the fake "journalists" like Uygur and Kasparian that are at fault. It is the lobotomized Americans that cannot and do not think about what they consume in the media. BTW, Aaron Mate is one of the stellar journalists that we have in this country today.
These are just online shit bags. The type is well known. Here's hoping they get their just deserts.
I think the confusing thing for me is that people take the idiots at TYT seriously. I couldn’t tolerate five minutes of them.
Cenk, Ana, Rachel Maddow and their ilk represent a fifth column within the progressive movement (such as it is). They owe their success and their prosperity to the Democratic Party establishment and, hence, they are fiercely loyal to it. Though they may sound like progressives, they are the opposite--corporatists, regime change enthusiasts and warmongers. Somehow, they have captured the minds of many liberal Democrats who swallow their lies and slanders whole, no chewing required. Independent thinkers see right through their bullshit, but, sadly, there aren't many such people in the Democratic Party.
All love and respect to Aaron Mate.