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I think the main point of the article was not to debate the right or wrong of the Russian pipeline but to show the hypocrisy and double standards of the so-called journalist of the MSM. As stated, had this been Trump reversing the blockage, all of them without exception (and Glen gives some very good examples of their exaggerated emotional reactions) would jump on it like white on rice.

There are many pro and con arguments for a deal between two sovereign nations, thousands of miles away from the US, and why it should or shouldn't concern the US, and the debate in the comments is great to see.

However the true problem that Glen has been repeatedly calling out, is the media subjectively spotlighting stories that drive their financial "overlords'" narratives and casually ignoring the ones that directly dispel or go against them, no Mather how important, true or obvious they are. They function more as for profit entertainment centers than public service news organizations.

This affects every fibre of life and politics in America and, in my humble opinion, together with the social media platforms, which act in the same way, is the main reason for the great divide, and radicalization of American society - to greta benefit of America's foreign foes.

They talk about foreign service agents - they should look to them selves first!

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My only addition would be that the article points out the hypocrisy and double standards of BOTH the MSM and Democrats/leftist. Since 2016 they've all judged virtually every issue not of the merits of the issue, but on whether the right or left is supporting or opposing. Obama good, Trump bad, Biden good! Intellectual honesty is the primary victim.

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The exact reason I have been unable to support the DNC since the early 1990's. Its hard to believe a group is just and good when they are literally lying every single time.

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Eeexactly!

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Yeah, that's what we needed, another Glenn Greenwald special to tell us WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW.

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Good piece.

Thanks, Glenn, for bringing this up: "What makes Biden’s turnaround even more stunning is that it comes just weeks after the U.S. claims that Russians were behind a quite serious hack-for-ransom into a U.S. gas pipeline"

I don't believe in coincidences and, man, that is one huge coincidence.

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Call me a tin foil theorist but I absolutely do not buy that hack story. And I blame my skepticism on the corrupt Intel agencies.

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Sounds like it's time to dissolve NATO. It has no purpose now.

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Should’ve dissolved it after the Berlin Wall came down. It’s been a hammer in search of a nail for at least 30 years. A very, very expensive hammer.

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I totally thought so then, and for a long time after, but now not. It needs to be reformed, so it is less dependent on U.S. $ and military, and DJT was doing that. We need it, or its rump, to win the Western/CCP cold war. BUT, WE HAVE TO STOP REGIME CHANGES AND OTHER PAST SECURITY STATE MALFEASANCE. Sorry to shout. Let the CCP engage in subterfuge, and own it. For us, it is now self-defeating.

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So true

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Exactly. Since 1990 we needed a post USSR foreign policy. Trump supplied one.

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Trump was and remains correct in his observation re: foreign policy. He’s a maverick. Trump has been thinking about these issues for decades.

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You know, this Trumpian thinks you give him too much credit. I think when he started to dabble in politics a decade ago, that's when he started to look around and saw what "normal" lover's of this country saw, the coming (growing) security State that is eating us today.

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It has a purpose, we've strayed from it. Improving/Aligning NATO ties should be a priority. China/Russia want to see the West breakup, which makes me think you're a Chinese/Russian bot. Similar for the US, we need to fight extremist arguments on all sides so we're a formidable opponent against our adversaries. Tho we feel broken, if we literally breakup, it's handing China the keys to the world. In the words of Clint Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge, we "need to improvise, overcome, adapt."

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WRONG. Let Europe fight their own wars going forward. The USA should not be funding European malfeasance.

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Totally agree. Friendly to all nations entangled with none

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WRONG. Nato is an ALLIANCE, not a funding mechanism. That it has gone off the rails (some) is because Statists are in charge, doling out international favors. That can be corrected with the right administration.

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Remove USA from Germany and other European countries. It's that simple.

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Remove subsidies like troop deployment and funding. Do not remove mutual defense agreements and ally-ship.

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This is NOT 1914, nor the entangling foreign alliances that worried the Founders. It is Western (i.e. classical liberal) survival.

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You left off Iran. President Obama sent them $50 billion (he claimed, most estimates are closer to $100 billion) that has been used primarily for military weapons for their armed forces and for their terrorist clients such as Hamas and Hezbollah. That is likely more than we sent Saudi Arabia AND Israel for weapons in the same ~5 years.

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A nice fairytale you are spinning -- you left out a lot, e.g.:

1.) That that money was Iranian money in the first place - just "frozen" in Western banks (like for example Venezuelan gold at present) - not "given" as is annually given by US taxpayers in the case of "democracies" -- Saudi royal/crime family and apartheid Israel

2.) That US Congress literally stole $1B of that money - once again just STOLE (like in a theft) $1B of that Iranian money (similarly as UK and US "disappeared" Libya's billions after killing its ruler (ask Hillary and Neera Tanden about that Libya stolen money)

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You are right M. Boris. Chump change for, what, 444 hostage days at the U.S. Embassy. Of course that was blowback for 1950's style U.S. "empiring," wasn't it. Or was that the fault of International Socialism. Why does EVERYONE on the left/"left"/LEFT/neo-lib forget a little war we quietly won. (Thank you, Mr. Reagan, you will not be forgotten by this fellow classical liberal.)

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And Yemenis, and various Syrians, and I wonder how much opium they "buy" from the Taliban.

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Don't you just love it when the Babylon Bee is more accurate than the NYT and WaPo?!

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MSM is not news. It’s curated propaganda

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Love Babylon Bee!

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The UK let their prestige and finances dribble away, much like another “super power” is currently doing. Look after America and Americans!!

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The middle east has seldom been peaceful going back for several thousand years.

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Israeli genocidal crimes on Palestinians are our, American crimes.

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So let us become non-complicit, as M. Amy says. Methinks she is your ally, M. Boris.

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You think Muslim hatred of Jews is due to desert land the size of New Jersey? LOL

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I think it is due to ethnic cleansing of Palestine that began in the fall of 1947 and continued into 1948, then 73 years more of invasions, occupation, property theft, 2nd class (or subhuman) legal status, etc, etc. etc. Only a racist would instinctively assume that other peoples are not outraged at the same kind of oppression that they themselves would be outraged by.

I do not know where you live but if someone came to your house and forced you out at gunpoint and then invented a story for the news media that you left "voluntarily" and your house is now theirs because "God said its OK", you might not be fond of the perpetrator either.

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How do you negotiate with a party whose charter mandates and sole reason for being is your death and destruction based solely on your religion?

Israel gave them Gaza and they turned it into a forward firing base for bombs against civilians just like the opponents said they would. Arafat was offered 99% of what he asked for and spit in Israel’s face in favor of a terrorist intifada. You apparently have no clue how evil these people are. They teach their children to murder Israeli’s FFS.

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Yes. Let the locals sort it out. It shouldn't take them another 1300 years.

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NATO is a relic of the world order at the end of WWII. That world order essentially dissolved with the fall of the Soviet Union. Since 1999 the number of NATO member states had nearly doubled by adding the following countries (with year of admission): Czech Republic (1999), Hungary (1999), Poland (1999), Bulgaria (2004), Estonia (2004), Latvia (2004), Lithuania (2004), Romania (2004), Slovakia (2004), Slovenia (2004), Albania (2009), Croatia (2009), Montenegro (2017), North Macedonia (2020).

The purpose of NATO is joint defense - an attack on one is an attack on all, and members are obligated to supply armed forces to the country under attack. Unless all members are fully committed to doing so NATO is just window dressing. I have serious doubt about that commitment, especially with regard to all the small states in eastern Europe and the Baltic states.

The world order has changed significantly since 1945. The cold war is over. Russia, though still somewhat belligerent and in possession of nuclear weapons, is only a shadow of the threat the USSR was. And economically Russia is almost a nonentity. With the exception of mineral extraction it has virtually no industry that undermines others, let alone competes.

The real threat to most of the world is China, and the world has no real strategy to deal with it. China virtually annexes Hong Kong in violation of it’s agreements, and the world yawns. They build islands in international waters in the South China Sea without consequence. They have to feel like they can take Taiwan without any real resistance from the west, other than strong words.

The interests of the United States are more critical in Asia than Europe. I’m not saying we shouldn’t be in NATO, but the US involvement in NATO needs to change. Our role needs to be substantially reduced, I think to more of a backup position, with a substantial reduction of US armed forces stationed in Europe. I think we would be much better served by a Pacific rim alliance of countries such as the US, Canada, Japan, India, Chile, Mexico, Australia, and New Zealand.

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Hi Jeff, the strategist -- why don't you agitate for freedom and democracy in -- USA?

China raised 800 million of its citizens - from periodic mass starvation into middle class -- an unprecedented success !! -- while DNC and GOP oligarchs essentially eliminated middle class in the US.

"53K US contractors in the Middle East versus -- for 35K troops" !!! What a lucrative business and worth unlimited donations to both DNC and GOP politicians. Highlighting just that "detail" -- tells it all....

A 1%-er War party with two right (DNC and GOP) wings -- gay marriage, abortion, "woke", etc. topics are just distractions to divide 99% of population into "red" and "blue" camps.

But brainwashed US citizen and "strategists" agitate "freeing" China and increasing hate of Moslems, Russians, Chinese, Persians, Martians - just to avoid thinking about our own beloved country.

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Interesting response, Boris. First, I didn't "agitate for freedom and democracy in -- USA" because I was specifically responding to the topic in this thread.

"China raised 800 million of its citizens - from periodic mass starvation into middle class -- an unprecedented success !! -- while DNC and GOP oligarchs essentially eliminated middle class in the US."

Gee, I wonder what a big part of the elimination of the US middle class is the result of. Let's see. You think it might have something to do with the globalization that saw millions upon millions of US manufacturing job shipped offshore, most significantly to China? China is also the world's number one intellectual property thief. They also use slave and exploited labor to manufacture goods so cheaply that manufacturing them in the US is economically impossible. China may have raised the standard of living of its people, which is good, but they have done so in large part by flaunting international trade conventions and outright theft.

I have no interest in US involvement in foreign wars. I advocate for a lowered US commitment in Europe. There is a lot a Pacific rim alliance can do to move China towards responsible behavior besides armed conflict. If we don't move our focus towards China and Asia we can be sure that unlawful conduct will continue.

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Time to learn Mandarin. Our corrupt oligarchs have and will continue to sell us out to the Chicoms and there is nothing we can do about it because the press is also bought and paid for.

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Plenty of truth in your remarks, but I'm not going to be defeatist.

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"...and will continue..."

I don't know. I throw the tea leaves, and half the time now I read "the CCP nature is out of the bag, and their gig is soon up."

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Oh god there it is the buzz phrase that 90% of Americans think they belong to "the middle class". Nicely peppered in with phrases like "mass starvation" and oligarchs.

Because who doesn't like a little class warfare. I mean its so much more en vogue than race warfare.

/s

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But a post-NATO (NPTO and/or IOTO) to include the Western NATO nations can help defeat the CCP.

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That makes sense. I'm certainly no expert but the interests of the US and western Europe vis-a-vis China are mostly aligned.

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“… which makes me think…” Nah. You’re just a believer.

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And you aren't? Does thinking sometimes lead to believing? Is all belief false? Care to post some reasoned substantive "beliefs" of your own?

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As expected -- War Party lunatics searching for Chinese/Russian bots ;-))

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Hey, Russian bot here checking in.

"It has a purpose, we've strayed from it" - what is it again? So a bot would understand?

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Biden had to get paid off in this deal. Putin gets a $10 trillion deal for Russian energy, surely the Biden family gets at least a $30 million villa gifted to them in Geneva or Zurich...maybe even looking over Lake Como.

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Awesome that you quote from a movie about the USA’s Grenada invasion to support your point here.

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And hasn't had since the Berlin Wall fell. It's dangerous: a powerful institution looking frantically for something to do.

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Your last paragraph is gold... no fucking shit. Sorry, the so-called journalism of the MSM just really pisses me off.

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Let's get rid of the use of the word journalism, could have done that years ago, and replace it with guided propaganda. Journalism is mostly dead, except for Glenn Greenwald and a few others.

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"Politburo information arm" is a good choice? The media is one of Democrats and Putin's most powerful weapons.

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The 100+ year slow creep of in-the-State-tank East coast rot. Go watch Walter Cronkite today, and read between his lines.

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What did HE report/investigate on the Bay of Tonkin?

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It’s not journalism. They are operatives of Democratic party

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I prefer to say they are stenographers for the three letter agencies

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They are the same right now as DNC oligarchs -- a War Party

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THANK YOU-THANK YOU. I have been trying to tell my son this for the 4 years trump was in office. I am not a Trump fan at all but this was Russian agent stuff was just total nonsense. He kept reading this garbage on Reddit and thought some of it had to be true. I tried to point out the inconsistencies but I did not come close to your fine layout of the facts which completely contradict this fairytale. I sent him this column and and going to sit down with him this weekend and point out the issues with religiously following Reddit rubbish

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That's the trouble with all the garbage misinformation out there. There are always going to be people who think there must be something to it.

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In both sides. My son is super smart, thoughtful and usually very balanced/rational but on this he just couldn’t get past the constant garbage and trusted the media could not have gotten this so wrong.

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"intelligence/smart" is often very domain specific and smartness in one domain can often harm their intelligence in another field as they overestimate themselves and tune out info which they don't find appealing.

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Intelligence without experience can get you in trouble sometimes

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I think you have the key.

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Honestly, all of that sort of nonsense only nudged me towards being a fan. It may be my longtime Browns fan love of an underdog, but the more the bad guys piled against him, the more I rooted for him. Full disclosure, he got my vote in the generals, but not the '16 primary. My location requires some strategy as regards primaries.

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I am in the same shoes. There were so many legit reasons to criticize Trump over. But instead of doing that, the media and the "DNC leftists" wasted 5 years over stupid shit. One thing people seem to miss is that one of the biggest flaws (or feature based on how you look at it) was that Trump was a people pleaser. He wanted people to like him - it's just how he's always been and people loved him for it before he ran as a Republican. This people pleaser personality could have been utilized by the real honest liberals to get actual meaningful stuff. But instead of doing that, they went after the same old russiagate, impeachment, white supremacy bullshit again and again. And this made him the underdog, whom I support. The more and more they will attack him over stupid shit, the more I will support him.

Instead of asking and pressuring pardons of Assange, Snowden etc, we wasted 5 years.

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Excellent statement about the real Donald Trump.

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He was the quintessential deal-maker, making initial statements and offers that were guffawed at. Look at his Tariffs! They were actually working!!

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Haggler might be a better descriptor. He was an American natural.

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I totally agree they just could not get past the initial shock.

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I never voted for a Republican, but when they went after Trump I rooted for him. I can't stand bullies. I no longer am a registered democrat, but an independent. It not only increased the animus towards the Russians, but it also divided this country along class lines more so then it ever was. I think Greenwald gives Obama a pass when it comes to how he dealt with things, Syria, the Ukraine, Russia-gate, etc,

https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/fresh-evidence-obama-ordered-up-the-phony-russiagate-scandal/

NY Post

"Files unsealed in the final stages of Michael Flynn’s years-long court struggle reveal a real stunner — confirmation that President Barack Obama played a central role in foisting the whole phony Russiagate “scandal” on the country."

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I use to joke that the Browns lost to gain real American fans!

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I'll have to take your word for that since I know nothing about football.

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Oh, I was cajoling the Cleveland Browns fan M. Notyours.

Anyway, I boycott all sports today until they become un-woke. That's all you need to know about football, M. Fran, imo!

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Funny but I was reading an article on wokism just now. I can't tolerate the movement either. They come across as authoritarian, since they alone are privy to the truth, and they alone will determine how things should be defined, how things should be, how you should think. They think of themselves as liberal yet no police, not even gay police, at their gay pride parade.

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Everyone expects the Yankees to win. A fan can ONLY be disappointed. (A similar example?)

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I can kind of understand that

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That's some damn fine parenting. Even if he doesn't listen at first, get it in his ear, and be there for him when he starts to question his premises.

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After reading my last few lines it sounded a bit like the dreaded “I told you so”. I cringed a bit

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Yes, tread carefully to keep their confidences in you and your opinion!

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I won’t touch either

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The Steele Dossier was never worthy of debunking. It had all the earmarks of fiction and none of the characteristics of a professional intel product. Sloppy, poorly sourced, unpublishable. If it was so bad, why did it get traction? People wanted to believe it and Steele had the paper credentials to give it passing credibility, but only for the credulous or those who never read it. Any fresh-out-of-school intel analyst could recognize the report's fatal flaws. No serious CIA or FBI analyst would use it. The fact they did not immediately tell everyone it was trash says something about FBI and CIA leadership suppressing dissent. Besides, the only way two intel agencies agree, much less "17" is by the top floor shutting down contrary views.

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I'm just dumbstruck that Trump got impeached over Ukraine while the Biden's were taking everything they could get their hands on w/ 1/2 going to "Pops". Nice when your son can do all your dirty business for you and make $1 mil a year for 3 years and park your 50% into accounts that the media will never inquire about until you're dead and gone. AT which point they'll discover these reserves and it'll all be Trump's fault.

I hate Trump, but what this cast of characters has tried to get away with is just incredulous.

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"I hate Trump..."

Isn't that a little strong? 1) Did you, in hindsight, really want another Bush or Clinton? Can you think of anyone else, in hindsight, that would have defeated 2 (two) establishment crony-Capitalist lines of heredity?! And 2) Would you have even become aware of the Bidens' Ukraine malfeasance, i.e. the very things you mention in your post, had not DJT literally sacrificed himself on the in-the-tank-for-Biden-Dems bizarre media circus around onrange-man-bad? He didn't have to do that. Was it his narcissism, or his love of country?

Please stop the hatred, M. TrueNorthMN. (Sorry if you mispoke, and I over-react.)

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I voted for Trump twice and yes..I hate the bombastic style he employed when he didn't have to. We always knew this election was going to be wooing the delicate low information females in the suburbs who don't follow politics but do put on MSNBC or CNN in the morning as they're getting the kids ready for school. The noise was deafening and Trump needed to find a way to pivot..even slightly. I've worked for guys like Trump so though I "hate" them, I also understand their utility in achieving my/our goals. We were handed a bowl of lemons and we made lemonade. We used Trump as a cudgel against Leftist policies and for 3 years..those Leftist's were contained, constrained and kicked the curb. Then Covid hit and the masks went on..and riots ran through America and somehow it all became Trump's fault on those morning CNN and MSNBC shows. "If we weren't so divided because of Trump, we'd love each other"...and such clap trap. I harbor no ill will towards Trump, but he does need to move on and acknowledge this patriotic populist parade that started in 2008 was underway long before he showed upon the scene, and will continue long after he's no longer being weaponized by CNN, MSNBC, NYT and the DNC.

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Yes, that was his main character flaw, wasn't it. I disliked it in the extreme when he took natural allies to task, indeed demeaned them, when they didn't act as he wanted them to act. For all his accomplishments, he could have accomplished more.

In any case, imo he will not run in '24 because of age, and even if he does I choose others who are in his mold policy-wise.

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post post: I hope he doesn't even start to run in '24. He is too old.

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It just shows the depth of the rot in US political system. The tip of that iceberg of dysfunctionality is visible to the whole world - incompetent TV personality replaced by senile corrupt career politician as POTUS. American Empire truly passed its peak.

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It’s like late night TV show hosts and DNC “leftists” had a fantasy of jerking off to sexual videos of orange man after putting him on magazine covers for decades. They wanted it to be true so they could all get off of it.

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Exactly. The poisoned hearts of Statists. Deep State, and "fellow travelers" (look up the phrase, please).

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I KNEW it! Putin did rig the 2020 election to install his puppet Biden!

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All we need now is our own "dossier."

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We already have it. It's Hunter's Laptop.

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The MSN gaslighting is beyond what I every dreamed of was possible!

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It's everywhere. Today in the NYT there was an op-ed regarding 1/6 saying that "right-leaning" people are more prone to authoritarianism. This, after the COVID lockdowns and mask mandates... and CRT... and oh, Stalinism and Mao's Cultural Revolution...

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OMG, you read the NYT! You need a quick shot of eye bleach disinfectant!

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I would sniff Biden’s hair before reading that rag.

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That "opinion" is just about 180 degrees wrong, isn't it. Maybe 179.98 or 180.00001.

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Wow that was an interesting read. I've followed your work for a long time and I never realized how little Donald Trump was a Russian asset. It shows how much the media cares more about symbolic acts, like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin meeting for an hour, than actual policies like him sanctioning their pipeline.

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And killing Russians in Syria. And exposing Democrat complicity in Ukraine. And,....

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A great article. Some on the left might see it as a pro-Trump article but I read it as a pro-Truth article that shows facts and how they differ from the reality the DNC attempts to portray in the media.

Im sure Rachel Madcow will be yelling here about Biden being a Russian asset right?

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From 2015 to 2021 scores of print, online, and TV stories on Trump were done. 95% negative and depicting the POTUS as everything from worse than Hitler to child molester. What is true? What holds up today? The very worst claims disappeared with about 100% of Democrats still believing they are true. It seems to me what is actually true is the guy is a jerk, not super honest, giant ego, demands loyalty, cheats on his wife, reads little, and punches down. I can name 535 people in Congress that could be described by many of the same points. People have been brainwashed to think Trump was so different than past and present politicians; I don't see it. Trump is the result of terrible representatives and elected officials who was had the biggest problem when he acted in the interest of citizens and told the truth about how thing really work in DC.

The media just ignores obvious questions that arise from many actions the Biden Administration has taken in just five months. They think we are so stupid that we can recall the "reporting" over the last five years.

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This ^^. I've often said that his greatest virtue was in having exposed the rest of them as being just as vapid and vomitous as he could be when at his most awful.

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Biden hate pipelines in North American for some reason though! Maybe they need to hire ole Hunter as a consultant.

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Funny we can’t have pipelines but Russia can

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Glenn: How do we get American journalism back? I see their degradation as the greatest threat facing the United States. This is a serious question. You are doing your part — heroically. But what can we, ordinary folks, what can we do to get serious objective and probing journalism back?

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Celeste, you sound like a person with their eyes open, why would you want to willingly accept agents of the Matrix with open arms ever again? The nostalgia you might be feeling is purely that, there was rarely anything there in the past.

You are doing exactly what you should be doing - ignore them and seek out independent voices, which is what I believe you are doing. The wretched legacy media did this to themselves. I relish their well deserved self ruination and repudiation by the masses.

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Clemens, Menckin, Rand, O'Rourke, ..... Many, many others, so many I do a dis-service mentioning even one.

The culprit is the fat and happy masses, quietly enriched beyond belief by relatively (in comparison to the tired world of old) free-market Capitalism, the system of classical liberalism.

Your advice is spot on, M. DesertRat, and your joyous "shadenfruede" at the peeps waking up to Mr. Franklin's gift of birthright is righteous!

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Why do you think the powers that be are in the midst of legalizing all vices? Drugs, Gambling, Prostitution... they are running out of bread and circus...

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I hadn't thought of it that way, but maybe I didn't notice because this libertarian thinks ALL vices (of the "not" good for myself, while hurting no others variety) should certainly be legal. Are you saying the Statists are hoping to "drug" us all into being willing fools?

Let me tell you, it took marijuana for me to start to wake up, and I'm not talking reefer madness. And I've lectured while getting high, a la Mr. Thompson, just to prove it. Fat and happy doesn't HAVE to mean complacent.

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Here's a great conversation about some of these issues: https://rumble.com/vh3qbx-lara-logan-theyre-not-journalists.-theyre-political-assassins..html

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Thank you. Yes, I am aware of Lara Logan. And there's the NYT editor who was just fired for same. But again, how to return journalism -- or the propaganda organ of the far left -- to its important role as watchdog and check to government?

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I think it's pretty clear that all forms of our media and tech have been taken over by the CIA and or other black ops activities. Many of the articles by the New York Times and Washington Post seemed straight off the CIA operatives computers. How do you get them "back in the box"? Didn't go well for Kennedy, when he tried.

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"...have been taken over by the CIA and or other black ops activities."

Don't leave out the willing TDS dupes, and those with hearts poisoned by anti-Capitalism.

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Yeah the TDS thing is a "thing" isn't it. When you ask a person with the TDS virus what is so bad with Trump, the all have the same canned response. It's like a religion. If you ask where they got their information, it is from the pulpit of NYT or WaPo. It was this mechanism that made me a Trump fan - truly. I could tell something was broken and he wasn't it. He has his own issues like I and everyone else has their's.

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What is "TDS" -- I can't figure your acronym. Many thanks

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Sorry to be so clear and harsh.

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I'm afraid we've been too kind for too long. There are those that think my very thought of being "for Trump" makes me a terrorist. These people must be stopped. This will effect my kids' life in a very negative way. Who know's how much damage has already been done.

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A good question. Trump was certainly dangerous and dumb (he for example didn't pardon Assange, his strongest witness about the Russia-gate hoax) -- it is great that Trump defeated himself and is GONE.

The answer to your question is, I am convinced:

Who will be the first Democrat Congressman or Senator to publicly confirm the Russia-gate conspiracy? There is absolutely no "unity and healing" until that...

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Celeste: I AM far left (Green Party - far left for the US), and see the mass media as deeply hostile. They actually represent the plutocrats who own them.

And they'd probably wear both your disapproval and mine as a badge of honor.

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May I ask you a question -- shouldn't Green and People parties unite or at least collaborate somehow to get eventually rid of current one party monopoly (with two right wings)?

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Yes.

The People's Party founders appear to have judged the Green Party too dysfunctional to deal with (they might have a case); or they just want their own party to play with.

At least in Oregon, we can co-nominate candidates by way of working together, assuming the PP gets on the ballot, a heavy lift. They're young and enthusiastic (I've attended their meetings); I'd recommend they just take over the Pacific Green Party, as they could. I wouldn't oppose them.

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Thank you -- they should cooperate.

Jill Stein was indeed a wonderful -- thoughtful and noble candidate. It was truly disgusting how DNC/CIA treated her (Russia-asset, like Tulsi).

The guy who represented Greens in 2020 was atrocious and an embarrassment.

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No. Green and current "people" parties are Statist to the core. They want to expand State power (i.e. take society towards the LEFT endpoint of the poltical spectrum) in order to reduce individual freedom, all in the name of a myth (a "scientific" one at that).

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Ten parties would be far more "democratic" than current only one - with two fascist wings. We do have 40+ toothpaste selection freedom, don't we?

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Yes, the costs of externalities should be society-added to the cost of free-market goods and services, but anti-Capitalists USE it to destroy freedom, plain and simple.

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I would say some or most but not all young people. Our grandson graduated from college with a writing degree, has been working full time at non-writing jobs to be self-sufficient.

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The corporate media reminds me of nothing so much as the House UnAmerican Activities Committee and its counsel, Roy Cohn. Glenn is peeing into a hurricane of hysterical nonsense concerning Russia, Putin, and Trump. The plain fact is that Germany needs the cheap gas, but also needs to get out from under the heel of United States foreign policy.

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Spot on. And it also has no need to be blackmailed by Ukraine, Turkey, Poland, Israel or others regarding their gas supply, in addition for paying more for US one.

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Biden is accommodating Europe, not Putin.

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you MUST be a Russian or Chinese bot. Germany needs cheap gas, so they should be able to buy from the same country we spend billions defending them against? They can buy our gas and we should leave that country.

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Germany needs cheap gas because they stupidly abandoned nuclear.

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We have gas. Buy your allies products. Buy American. I will experience schadenfreud when Russia inevitably turns the screws on Germany and Europe

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WESTERN nuclear power will save the planet.

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NON-Western nuclear power will destroy it.

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Nuclear is unjustifiable insanity, in both risk and cost. Wind and solar now provide more of Germany's power than either fossil fuels or your radioactive water heaters, so your derp is invalid.

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Nuclear is the only way forward and most expert will confirm this. Solar and Wind are not reliable energy sources year round.

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Fuel cells is a better option in my opinion.

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Germany pretended to use renewables but in reality they got most of their electricity from France's abundant nuclear power plants

I helped build the photovoltaic power systems industry in the USA, 20% of it at least. I now regret doing that because of the way this source of energy is being manipulated and distorted in the public view to be something it definitely is not

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Accusing people of being a "Russian or Chinese bot" makes you appear delusional, or maybe just intentionally disingenuous, sorta like calling everybody "racist".

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Yea, cuz there's no Russian or Chinese bots ever. In Bari Weiss interview with Mike Pompeo yesterday, he described Chinese nationals attending middle-America city council meetings (publicly available information).

I said they're a bot because of their terse, Pro-Putin reply.

A few weeks ago someone from China on twitter was saying how Taiwan really wants to be a part of China. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was clearly either a CCP actor or someone indoctrinated by them.

Russia/China disinformation is real, that's the whole point of what Glenn & Bari are saying.

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Elon -- Bari Weiss is an authentic Likud Nazi-like racist. She sings hymns about another Likudnik racist Nathan Sharansky -- she calls him her hero. She attacked Tulsi Gabbard for doing her Congressional duty and visited Syria while both Israel and US used Al Qaeda to publicly butcher Syrians. Bari Weiss, Mike Pompeo -- thank you for introducing yourself !!

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Yea, again, if you're resorting to personal attacks, you have to wonder about the quality of your argument on the topic at-hand.

Bari & I are both Jewish. It's mystifying people call us, or others like Donald Trump (since he has a converted Jewish daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren) and Ben Shapiro "Nazis," since, ironically, it's people like yourself who echo white supremacists.

Lol Bari, u gotta make people pay to post, that should be enough to keep the tin-hat brigade out of the comments section.

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Nazi-like behavior makes any human, not just historical Nazis -- a monster. Plenty of Nazi-like behavior advocates everywhere - unfortunately. There is an incredibly moving response by Norman Finkelstein (video) to drivel like yours.

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You tried this BS a couple months ago about Sharansky, and painting Bari Weiss evil by association with him. I asked for any evidence of him crossing a line, pointing out there were many well-researched profiles of him that paint him as mostly just interesting with no hint of your claims. Put up some evidence or shut up.

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How many threads are you and other anti-semites going to bring up Bari Weiss in threads documenting the media and the DNC and how they collude to deceive the American public?

Serious fucking question, can you see the ocean from the beach or are you too busy buying that propaganda liberals have been selling since 1900 in countries around the world?

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Where's that "ignore" button. @GlennGreenwald @Substack

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You listen to Bari Weiss AND Mike Pompeo??? Small wonder you’re out of it.

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I'm out of it for listening to polite socio-political interviews by people on opposing sides, but you're in tune by slighting people in the comments section?

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We listen to all. Yes, Ms. Weiss and Mr. Pompeo have not always been as careful as others, GG for example.

Are we all "mind-numbed robots," too?

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After a few idiotic stances and performances, one tends not to listen to jerks…like Adam Schiff or Jared Kushner, for instance.

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You left out the fact that the world's current major superpower also spews out endless gobs of hot, stinky disinformation. While the end of the Empire is in sight (thanks to the debt, the anarchists, and the perverts who are both in and outside of the mainstream), we continue to protect Anthony Fauci and his fellow mad scientists. We continue to demonize Russia for protecting its interests and our hubris and hunger for domination have slowed the progress of Nord Stream II for nearly a decade. As Obama's spiritual leader, the Reverend Wright said, "The chickens have come home to roost". America is rotting from within and it is only a matter of time before it follows Great Britain, Portugal, and Rome as failed experiments.

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Holy fuck you left wing racists love to mention Bari Weiss in a thread that has nothing to do with them.

You doubt Chinese nationals were attending middle-America city meetings?

The highest paid CA employee in 2019 was a Chinese agent.

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2020/08/07/update-chinese-born-chief-investor-for-ca-state-employees-pension-funds-holds-stock-in-multiple-chinese-companies-n250387

The married State rep from CA Eric Swallwell had an affair that would have provided leverage against him with a chinese agent.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13424836/fang-fang-eric-swalwell-refuses-say-sex-chinese-spy-classified/

Meanwhile, Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat and lifer politician, had a chinese agent as her driver for 20 years!

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/01/details-chinese-spy-dianne-feinstein-san-francisco/

But you don't believe Chinese nationals are going to meetings? Im sure you believe Trump was Russian right? In other words you are little more than a PR mouthpiece for the DNC. Since you believe their demonstrably false claims and ignore the evidence I've linked.

I don't know, I guess morons like you are necessary to fill up the lower end of the gene pool with numbers.

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Everything you deranged Chinaphobes say about China could be 1000% true, but it wouldn't do a damn thing to justify Apartheid Israel or its colonialist ethnic cleansing project.

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You MUST have a photo of Joe McCarthy on your nightstand.

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When people result to personal insults, I understand it as surrender. Perhaps you'd elaborate as to why you don't think Putin is being accomodated.

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From Elon, a War Party lunatic searching for Chinese/Russian bots ;-))

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why does the us need to defend germany against russia?

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As of today...we don't.

We can move those 35,000 US Troops out of Germany tomorrow.

My recommendation? Put them in Moldova, Romania, Poland, Czech Republic, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Bulgaria.

We ought to at least defend those who suffered the worst under Marxism.

Germany apparently has forgotten their past.

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That's funny, given that all the "Marxist suffering" in your imagination is dwarfed by the reality of capitalism.

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And a few German troops should be assigned to each U.S. post.

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My point is that you need to know who is with you and who's against you.

I don't begrudge you from wanting cheap energy, so open up your nuke plants. They were safer than any others on the planet and there are dozens of operating nuke plants across the border in France. Plus they are very green.

How does burning more fossil fuel help solve the world's Global Warming Crisis.

But if you don't realize the Authoritarianism you've enabled by letting the fox into your henhouse, please don't come knocking on our door for help when the fox eats all the chickens.

And Hitler may have opposed Stalin, but it was only because Hitler's version of Socialist Nationalism was more strategic than Stalin's. Hitler knew that you didn't need to own the means of production, just put a gun to the head of the EXecutives running the companies and they'll do what you command of them. No need to put your nephew in charge of Volkswagen or Siemens when the SME's running those companies are already world class.

I realize the world is not this simple, but I really see no need for NATO to continue as an organization, do you?

Obviously not as Germany hasn't met their NATO commitments in the past 10+ years.

If you don't see the value, I don't see the value either.

See?? We agree on something.

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“If you're resorting to personal attacks, you have to wonder about the quality of your argument on the topic at-hand.” - Elon

“You MUST be a Russian or Chinese bot.” - Elon resorting to personal attacks on the topic at-hand

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Agreed. You’re own your own Angela...

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Dirty socialist

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I'm a capitalist to the bone!

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I was replying to Elon who believes that the markets should not be free but regulated by the US government.

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Of course they should be regulated.

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Except for Syria, Georgia, Crimea, Donbass, Belarus, poisoning of innocent Brits, interference in U.S. elections, safe harbor for international hackers,.....

Stalin sure loved Hitler for two years, and then he loved us, because without us how many Russians would today be speaking German. Russia DESERVED to pay the highest price. Ask any Pole, Lithuanian, Latvian, Georgian,....

Why I could plausibly make the case that Russia and Russians are the world's festering wart, forever abetting and brewing Authoritarian Socialist regimes the world over. Russians can choose to dump Putin and refuse another strongman. Until they do, they can starve or emigrate to the West and join the humanity of classical liberalism. Sorry to be so harsh.

There is every reason in the world to contain Russian imperialism forever.

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Go read up on the Mongolian Yoke. You might learn something about why Russia is the way it is.

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"Russia and Russians are the world's festering wart" - nice coming out, you racist scumbag, and those who "hearted" it as well.

With this you've earned a promotion to the rank of Unterscharführer of the Schutzstaffel, the fucking Nazi you are. Admittedly it's not much but I'm sure you'll be content with it as, given the thickness of your skull, you wouldn't get any further anyway. Disgusting shithead.

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Russian atrocities put U.S. atrocities to shame. I look at 200 years of it.

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Lulz even you know you are FOS. Go ahead and compare the number of democracies overthrown by Russia over the last 200 years compared to the last 20 from the United States.

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There IS nothing wrong with Iranians shouting death to the US. We deserve a little, for our warmongering.

And maybe. just maybe, if someone would snap their fingers and wake us up from our neo-con/lib nightmare, we could put an end to the justified blowback.

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Well, I DID ask forgivance, but I will not take it back until the Russian people give the world a non-threatening regime.

I have also said, and I stand by it, that we Americans gave the world the setting event of 20th-century human bloodletting by letting the abominable Woodrow Wilson take us into what SHOULD have been old Europes dying throes in WWI.

And we deserved our fate by doing so. There, am I now being "fair"?

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The point GG is making is that if Trump had done this very same thing, he would have summarily been denounced as a traitor and a Putin puppet by the entirety of the msm, natsec state and of course Dem Party.

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He is helping Putin. Terrible policy. Biden and his team are a disaster for America

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Sophistry fail, epic....

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Had Trump made the same decision as Biden would your post have been the same? Answer honestly.

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Maddow would have endlessly prattled about Trump serving Putin. That isn’t debatable.

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Hmmm. No response?

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If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

First, Russia hackers shut down the East Coast pipelines just a couple months after Biden shuts down Keystone and Enbridge pipelines.

Then Putin's proxies in Iran and their proxies in Israel start a loud war that has the media and Biden scrambling for a way out.

The pipeline? I know...I'll give Putin the pipeline he wants that's worth $10 trillion to Russia and he'll get those mean Hezbollah guys to knock it off..

Robert Gates - Don't forget that Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of foreign policy every time over the past 40 years.

Well...he didn't fail us this time either.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!!!?????

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Awesome post, M. TrueNorthMN, but now that Syria is dependent on Russia, I wouldn't want to let him surround Israel by ceding the occupied territories to him. Still, he probably would find a "strongarm" way to stop the shooting, if he didn't just annex a la Crimea and Donbass. And then he would have his Mediterranean port. maybe that would save the Afghans from the next time the Russians come for their coast.

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In 1967, Egyptian and Syrian tanks were Russian.

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He's accommodating both

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one could call it cooperating instead of competing. :-)

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Biden is not accommodating at all - it is still US geopolitical interest to blow up NS2 deal, they will just do it the other way, which is waiting for end of Merkel era and have more pliant Chancellor in charge.

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That’s a rather funny statement - if Biden is accommodating Europe he’s also accommodating Putin vis a vis the pipeline.

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Same fooking difference.

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