The same factions that constantly claim to abhor Fake News and disinformation continue to be the most aggressive and shameless propagators of it -- especially the media.
I have been a registered Republican, voting strong conservative values, for my entire voting career. 36 years. I have never purchased a subscription to any media outlet, cable packaging notwithstanding. This is the first time I have felt compelled to do so. Never thought my first time would be because of my respect for a journalist with liberal roots. But that day has arrived. Keep it up Mr. Greenwald.
There wasn't and still isn't solid evidence/proof that Russia hacked the DNC either....but it is now accepted as fact.
Here in the Us we do everything faster, so, Winstons old adage; "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on " is on steroids in our MSM, here the truth cannot even find its pants.
Glenn, Well worth the whole price of my subscription—and more!—to read your statement that Adam Schiff is "the single most shameless pathological liar in the U.S. Congress by a good margin". You might add to that that he's also the most dangerous lunatic in Congress—witness that crazy speech he gave after the impeachment. Some of the similarly lunatic media crowd described his speech as "magistarial". Good grief. I lived through the McCarthy Era once and I don't want to do it again. I hope that there are enough sane people in the state of Washington to remove him from office at the first opportunity. Or maybe he left a computer for repair in some obscure, dusty little shop and forgot about it and we can get rid of him that way. Let's hope. I don't think that they can keep the Hunter-and-Joe-Biden scandal in the deep six forever, by the way. Joe Biden is as crooked as they come and a really evil man. And incidentally, I am neither a Republican nor a Trump supporter. Nor am I working for Vladimir Putin, although if he had run for President of the U.S. I might have tried to vote, given what was on offer.
Question: If these 50 or so former intel "experts" have no evidence of Russian disinformation, how is it even reasonable to speculate about it? Maybe the Pope did it? And, why did they not encourage the MSM to get to the bottom of this?
Answer: Simple. The statement's purpose was NOT to info the American Public, but to mislead it by given the MSM a seemingly 'credible' talking point to tell people to ignore everything.
The fault lies with the American public that readily accepts total bullsh.it like this....and a media that feeds it to them.
Apparently, while Trump and Fox News need to be held accountable for their "lies", that doesn't apply to anyone else. A cohesive society cannot exist in such an unhealthy state....
Everything one needs to know about today's media was epitomized in a single tweet by New York Times’ tech writer Kevin Roose:
“For the conservatives who are mad about [the election results]: yes, it is possible for a story to be factually accurate *and* for it to be part of a misinformation campaign aimed at undermining confidence in an election.”
Factually accurate stories are misinformation? Only if War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength, Kevin.
Oh, fear not. Once Biden is safely ensconced in the White House and before his first diaper is changed, the propagandists will miraculously regain their journalistic ethics and SlowJoe will be forced out using the mountain of dirt accumulated throughout his crime spree of a career in “public service”. This to pave way for a true believer—you know the “African American” VP who rose through the ranks on her knees. Being Indian and Jamaican, raised in Canada, secular, never had kids, corrupt DA and married to a rich white guy—she has her finger on Black America’s pulse.
This is what journalism is supposed to look like. But when even the Intercept has switched sides, true journalists like Greenwald become even more valuable--and more threatened.
Everyday I feel more like the 2020s are going to be a lot like the 1920s. Yellow journalism, robber barons, a new lost generation and the rise of nationalism and xenophobia.
Great piece Glenn, but as a fellow recovering lawyer I have a slightly different take. It begins with the important differences between three little words: information, misinformation, and disinformation.
I agree with you that the emails reported by the NY Post appear to be authentic. Hunter Biden has not denied their authenticity. They are information — and should be reported, regardless of the source. The letter from the intelligence community uses the phrase “information campaign,” not misinformation or disinformation.
Hunter Biden doesn’t appear in media reports to be such a crack-head to have left three laptops full of sensitive information in a New Jersey computer repair shop and then forgotten about them. That being said, the data security practiced by public figures is appalling, as was shown by Clinton, Podesta, and likely Trump himself. They constantly expose themselves to hacking. I have little doubt that Hunter Biden exposed his hard drive to Ukrainian, Russian, and Belarusian hacking, and that mirrored laptops could have been created in order to be “found” in New Jersey.
But my problem with pathological liars like Adam Schiff and our national Security propaganda apparatus and their enablers in the media is that the source of the information does not magically transform “information” into misinformation (mistaken understanding) or disinformation (lies). The lesson of the Pentagon Papers is that if the data can be confirmed as valid information, it must be reported on no matter the sourcing.
Here's what I don't understand. If we're really supposed to believe that Putin is constantly trying to "undermine our democracy" then why wouldn't the people most concerned with Putin and his 4D chess playing over the last 4 year NOT be the people MOST interested in ensuring that nothing untoward happened during this election? It'd be just like Putin to try and create further discord and distrust in the superb American system by once again "hacking our election", to the point where I feel it was almost...treasonous...of Nancy to insist on postal voting, which can easily be manipulated by the Russians. I mean, is it possible that Nancy is a Russian asset? I think that the very real existence of meddling by the Red Menace means that we have to take the utmost caution when it comes to such an important aspect of our democracy as voting for a president.
When I saw “Still No Evidence” I was hoping you were going to talk about how the fake news is really being fake these days. I’ll mention a few things they should be investigating...at least five lawsuits (and more being filed daily), proof Dominion Software switched over 2,500,000 votes to Biden,
brave whistleblowers being fired, threatened at knifepoint and being “shaken down” by USPS officials, over 1,000 pages of affidavits in one county and on and on. Oh...most telling to me...if it’s nothing, why aren’t the Dems supporting the effort...may help in their unifying plea.
Please start a crossword so I can cancel my NYT subscription.
I have been a registered Republican, voting strong conservative values, for my entire voting career. 36 years. I have never purchased a subscription to any media outlet, cable packaging notwithstanding. This is the first time I have felt compelled to do so. Never thought my first time would be because of my respect for a journalist with liberal roots. But that day has arrived. Keep it up Mr. Greenwald.
...This is why I paid $150 to be a founding member... Thank you for not having selective-amnesia like the rest of media
There wasn't and still isn't solid evidence/proof that Russia hacked the DNC either....but it is now accepted as fact.
Here in the Us we do everything faster, so, Winstons old adage; "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on " is on steroids in our MSM, here the truth cannot even find its pants.
Glenn, Well worth the whole price of my subscription—and more!—to read your statement that Adam Schiff is "the single most shameless pathological liar in the U.S. Congress by a good margin". You might add to that that he's also the most dangerous lunatic in Congress—witness that crazy speech he gave after the impeachment. Some of the similarly lunatic media crowd described his speech as "magistarial". Good grief. I lived through the McCarthy Era once and I don't want to do it again. I hope that there are enough sane people in the state of Washington to remove him from office at the first opportunity. Or maybe he left a computer for repair in some obscure, dusty little shop and forgot about it and we can get rid of him that way. Let's hope. I don't think that they can keep the Hunter-and-Joe-Biden scandal in the deep six forever, by the way. Joe Biden is as crooked as they come and a really evil man. And incidentally, I am neither a Republican nor a Trump supporter. Nor am I working for Vladimir Putin, although if he had run for President of the U.S. I might have tried to vote, given what was on offer.
Question: If these 50 or so former intel "experts" have no evidence of Russian disinformation, how is it even reasonable to speculate about it? Maybe the Pope did it? And, why did they not encourage the MSM to get to the bottom of this?
Answer: Simple. The statement's purpose was NOT to info the American Public, but to mislead it by given the MSM a seemingly 'credible' talking point to tell people to ignore everything.
The fault lies with the American public that readily accepts total bullsh.it like this....and a media that feeds it to them.
Apparently, while Trump and Fox News need to be held accountable for their "lies", that doesn't apply to anyone else. A cohesive society cannot exist in such an unhealthy state....
Everything one needs to know about today's media was epitomized in a single tweet by New York Times’ tech writer Kevin Roose:
“For the conservatives who are mad about [the election results]: yes, it is possible for a story to be factually accurate *and* for it to be part of a misinformation campaign aimed at undermining confidence in an election.”
Factually accurate stories are misinformation? Only if War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength, Kevin.
Thank you for getting out the facts and letting us decide how it impacts our actions. This is all we ever wanted from the press.
Oh, fear not. Once Biden is safely ensconced in the White House and before his first diaper is changed, the propagandists will miraculously regain their journalistic ethics and SlowJoe will be forced out using the mountain of dirt accumulated throughout his crime spree of a career in “public service”. This to pave way for a true believer—you know the “African American” VP who rose through the ranks on her knees. Being Indian and Jamaican, raised in Canada, secular, never had kids, corrupt DA and married to a rich white guy—she has her finger on Black America’s pulse.
This is what journalism is supposed to look like. But when even the Intercept has switched sides, true journalists like Greenwald become even more valuable--and more threatened.
Everyday I feel more like the 2020s are going to be a lot like the 1920s. Yellow journalism, robber barons, a new lost generation and the rise of nationalism and xenophobia.
Perhaps this is why Barach Obama overturned the Smith Mundt Act of 1948 to allow propaganda into the US corporate mainstream newsmedia.
Great piece Glenn, but as a fellow recovering lawyer I have a slightly different take. It begins with the important differences between three little words: information, misinformation, and disinformation.
I agree with you that the emails reported by the NY Post appear to be authentic. Hunter Biden has not denied their authenticity. They are information — and should be reported, regardless of the source. The letter from the intelligence community uses the phrase “information campaign,” not misinformation or disinformation.
Hunter Biden doesn’t appear in media reports to be such a crack-head to have left three laptops full of sensitive information in a New Jersey computer repair shop and then forgotten about them. That being said, the data security practiced by public figures is appalling, as was shown by Clinton, Podesta, and likely Trump himself. They constantly expose themselves to hacking. I have little doubt that Hunter Biden exposed his hard drive to Ukrainian, Russian, and Belarusian hacking, and that mirrored laptops could have been created in order to be “found” in New Jersey.
But my problem with pathological liars like Adam Schiff and our national Security propaganda apparatus and their enablers in the media is that the source of the information does not magically transform “information” into misinformation (mistaken understanding) or disinformation (lies). The lesson of the Pentagon Papers is that if the data can be confirmed as valid information, it must be reported on no matter the sourcing.
Here's what I don't understand. If we're really supposed to believe that Putin is constantly trying to "undermine our democracy" then why wouldn't the people most concerned with Putin and his 4D chess playing over the last 4 year NOT be the people MOST interested in ensuring that nothing untoward happened during this election? It'd be just like Putin to try and create further discord and distrust in the superb American system by once again "hacking our election", to the point where I feel it was almost...treasonous...of Nancy to insist on postal voting, which can easily be manipulated by the Russians. I mean, is it possible that Nancy is a Russian asset? I think that the very real existence of meddling by the Red Menace means that we have to take the utmost caution when it comes to such an important aspect of our democracy as voting for a president.
When I saw “Still No Evidence” I was hoping you were going to talk about how the fake news is really being fake these days. I’ll mention a few things they should be investigating...at least five lawsuits (and more being filed daily), proof Dominion Software switched over 2,500,000 votes to Biden,
brave whistleblowers being fired, threatened at knifepoint and being “shaken down” by USPS officials, over 1,000 pages of affidavits in one county and on and on. Oh...most telling to me...if it’s nothing, why aren’t the Dems supporting the effort...may help in their unifying plea.
Thank you, Glenn. Long may you run.