The same factions that constantly claim to abhor Fake News and disinformation continue to be the most aggressive and shameless propagators of it -- especially the media.
Please cancel your subscription and just clear your phone’s history to access the crossword. Or just look into other crossword puzzles. It’s time we put our money where our mouth is - as uncomfortable as that may be - and stop actively funding the criminal sources of our democracy’s demise.
You can subsribe to NYT Games including the crossword for $40 a year. I do, and I cancelled the paper. They are stone liars. They libeled me, and wouldnt correct, even with documentary evidence. Scum
My faves are the Boston Globe Omnibus collections. There are three versions, they aren't as difficult as NYT's (which means I succeed at a higher rate 😆) and the themes are just pure fun. 👍👍
Wall Street Journal's app version provides their daily crossword for free. It's not as good as NYT, but still better than nothing. Another option is to buy a year's worth of NYT crosswords at a time in one of those pad-type calendars. Every tear-away-day has a crossword on it.
I have been a registered Republican, voting strong conservative values, for my entire voting career. 36 years. I have never purchased a subscription to any media outlet, cable packaging notwithstanding. This is the first time I have felt compelled to do so. Never thought my first time would be because of my respect for a journalist with liberal roots. But that day has arrived. Keep it up Mr. Greenwald.
I can beat you! Been a Republican for 40 years - and I've never even paid for cable!!! This is my first time paying for media of any kind. Glenn is amazing. The only people I read anymore are Glenn and Matt Taiibi (also here on Substack) and Victor Davis Hanson.
I got y'all beat. According to my Facebook profile I was born on January 1, 1901 making me over 120 years old. Given that the date has not been fact-checked as false by the Facebook-gestapo, it must be true. Or perhaps it just means that it fits the "accepted" narrative even if it's false. In any case, I was happy to hand Greenwald some of my hard earned money.
I think many of us are sick of the democrats and their lies and sick of the media that supports them. Sick of those on left-wing sites that have backed the democrats and no longer maintain any objectivity. Too often what they have to say is nothing more then anti-Trump rants. I've always considered myself a liberal, but the "left" now turns me off. Under Biden I doubt if I will recover, since I have always seen him as very opportunistic in his political life.
Fran, please don't confuse these assholes for "the left." They're not. The GENUINE left are mostly self-described Progressives and these others simply aren't left, they're presently called Neo-Liberals - or just liberals - and they're decidedly NOT left.
...If you're on the genuine left, you actually support The People - the not-rich...
I certainly don't consider either party as liberal, and I am fully aware their first priority is servicing the corporate world, the rich, from whom they can depend on to finance their political careers, and not for one minute do I think of democrats as a liberal party, although that's what they hope people buy. Their behavior in the last 4 years with all their trumped up charges disgust me!!!!!!! The left wing sites on the net I use to see as a refuge during the Bush/Cheney years and even during Obama's 8 years in office are more or less gone, since they have shifted their allegiance to the democratic party and have become nothing more then Trump bashers. I think that was also true of the intercept. Even Greenpeace is asking for money using the Biden/Harris ticket as if they should inspire our hope. Biden in the eighties with his climate plan that was nothing more then a plan to make a plan that went nowhere? His lies about his involvement in the Paris Agreement accords, should inspire me? Obama lifted the ban on crude oil exports, and how proud both were that so much of America's oil was making it's way into foreign markets. These left wing sites have simply made the decision, anyone but Trump. I am on the left, but I'm not going to let those in the democratic party, or those left wing sites define what that means.
I've lived through the same period and understand your perspective. Do consider, though, that in statements like this:
"I am on the left, but I'm not going to let those in the democratic party, or those left wing sites define what that means."
...by calling them "left wing sites" (which aren't in fact left), you harm your goal of not letting them define what that means, which was my original point. ... Again, people like Hillary Clinton and her supporters - and Biden's for that matter - aren't left (though there are of course those that support these two "holding their noses", thinking they have no choice).
Ms. or Mr. Fran, I agree with you about these kinds of sites for news. I then remembered that these sites are for recent college graduates with several graduate students added in order to give everyone an opportunity for a shot of a career. Thus, without experience, their analyses are weak academic attempts at appearing intelligent. Ok, that is fine; but, not in writing for nationally distributed sites that claim high profile journalists. I also noticed that one well known journalist is thrown in to give the appearance of vast experience and knowledge. Slate, Salon - to me, are middle schools students trying to get a passing grade. And coming off as: Weak minded children who need additional instruction from a mentor. Yea, like you, I avoid this so called “Left”. I look forward to the younger members of Congress dumping people like that senile old woman, pelosi, in my view. No way a 80 year old person is capable of those kind of serious work. And in Congress there are dozens of these senile old men and senile old women. Young is 87 and has the virus. Feinstein is 85. Pelosi is around 82. Grassely is 82 give or take a year or two. There is nothing to expect from these senile old men and senile old women.
I like to read Taibbi and GG too but limiting yourself to 3 seems limiting. Wouldn't you like to develop your critical thinking skills by reading also stuff you don't agree with?
Actually, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm a Reagan conservative, so reading these liberal guys IS stretching me. I also read Conrad Black from the right. That's plenty of reading up on the news. Plenty.
Rob, it's easy when you know how! I canceled my Boston Glob (no, not a typo, the Globe used to be a respected newspaper, not any more) subscription once I signed up for Glenn and Matt T on Substack.
There wasn't and still isn't solid evidence/proof that Russia hacked the DNC either....but it is now accepted as fact.
Here in the Us we do everything faster, so, Winstons old adage; "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on " is on steroids in our MSM, here the truth cannot even find its pants.
"....but it is now accepted as fact" ... by low-intelligence people.
BTW, that quote has normally been attributed to Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) as: "A lie gets half-way round the world before the truth has its pants on."
I never heard that. being the first narrative I have ever heard about first narratives having a strong inertia, I will err on the side of cynicism and call you a liar.
Reread your Thucydides "Most people, in fact, will not take the trouble in finding out the truth, but are much more inclined to accept the first story they hear."
Glenn, Well worth the whole price of my subscription—and more!—to read your statement that Adam Schiff is "the single most shameless pathological liar in the U.S. Congress by a good margin". You might add to that that he's also the most dangerous lunatic in Congress—witness that crazy speech he gave after the impeachment. Some of the similarly lunatic media crowd described his speech as "magistarial". Good grief. I lived through the McCarthy Era once and I don't want to do it again. I hope that there are enough sane people in the state of Washington to remove him from office at the first opportunity. Or maybe he left a computer for repair in some obscure, dusty little shop and forgot about it and we can get rid of him that way. Let's hope. I don't think that they can keep the Hunter-and-Joe-Biden scandal in the deep six forever, by the way. Joe Biden is as crooked as they come and a really evil man. And incidentally, I am neither a Republican nor a Trump supporter. Nor am I working for Vladimir Putin, although if he had run for President of the U.S. I might have tried to vote, given what was on offer.
Schiff is the rep from Beautiful Downtown Burbank, California's 28 district. Back in the day they were rejoined for their humour. Now they are just mean and nasty.
Schiff was just reelected winning 73% of the vote. No my friend, there is no hope.
Yes, you are quite right about Schiff's congressional district, and I thank you for correcting my error. I saw myself that I had made that error, as well as having spelled "magisterial" incorrectly (that was a simple typo); but the site doesn't have an "edit" function, unfortunately. Since there are quite often things I would like to correct in my posts (I try to be careful, but I am not a good proofreader), I find that very frustrating. As for Schiff's reelection, one can only be astounded at the disastrously poor judgment of the voters of California's 28 district, just as one was astounded when the voters of Wisconsin returned Joseph McCarthy to the Senate in 1952 after his "red scare" witch-hunting had begun, which was in 1950. The only decent thing that McCarthy did was to die in 1957 before his second Senate term ran out, and we can only hope that Adam Schiff will show everyone similar consideration.
I met Schiff several years ago... I like many, many Dems, support moderate Dems with campaign $ including in this cycle. I'm a centrist in general. Schiff is unctuous in person and his actions are generally despicable, I have to say. Nunes is lambasted and yet go read his report - careful, thoughtful and reasoned. Schiff's memo by contrast has proven to be a bunch of narrative-spinning and BS over time.
Looking through Schiff's history is an eye opener. Per his wiki, "After the 2000 census, the district was renumbered as the 29th and made significantly more Democratic. As a result, Schiff has never faced another contest nearly as close as his 2000 bid, and has been reelected nine times." Yes, re-districting works to keep you in office.
Question: If these 50 or so former intel "experts" have no evidence of Russian disinformation, how is it even reasonable to speculate about it? Maybe the Pope did it? And, why did they not encourage the MSM to get to the bottom of this?
Answer: Simple. The statement's purpose was NOT to info the American Public, but to mislead it by given the MSM a seemingly 'credible' talking point to tell people to ignore everything.
The fault lies with the American public that readily accepts total bullsh.it like this....and a media that feeds it to them.
Apparently, while Trump and Fox News need to be held accountable for their "lies", that doesn't apply to anyone else. A cohesive society cannot exist in such an unhealthy state....
At Trump's inauguration, 50+ members of Congress refused to attend because of Trump's supposed collusion with Russia. Which had not been proved then or at any subsequent time. The Democrats use Russia for disinformation.
I'm hopeful that we're entering an era where if Trump is absent one can point out a hypocrisy or lie from someone in power without being accused of helping Putin. Or that, if one continues to be accused of that, a wider number of people more quickly realize the insanity of it. Unfortunately, social media is involved.
Everything one needs to know about today's media was epitomized in a single tweet by New York Times’ tech writer Kevin Roose:
“For the conservatives who are mad about [the election results]: yes, it is possible for a story to be factually accurate *and* for it to be part of a misinformation campaign aimed at undermining confidence in an election.”
Factually accurate stories are misinformation? Only if War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength, Kevin.
Oh, fear not. Once Biden is safely ensconced in the White House and before his first diaper is changed, the propagandists will miraculously regain their journalistic ethics and SlowJoe will be forced out using the mountain of dirt accumulated throughout his crime spree of a career in “public service”. This to pave way for a true believer—you know the “African American” VP who rose through the ranks on her knees. Being Indian and Jamaican, raised in Canada, secular, never had kids, corrupt DA and married to a rich white guy—she has her finger on Black America’s pulse.
OK, we get it, you don't like Joe and despise (or is it visceral hate?) Kamala. Cool it, darling, and have a martini. Shaken, not stirred. It will do you good.
It’s not a matter of liking or disliking them. I don’t know them and neither do you. It’s a matter of facts in their past words and deeds. Joe and Kamala are both liars and adulterers—as is Trump. And one may choose to vote for them for policy reasons. Like has nothing to do with it. The big problem with Biden is his corruption. He’s for sale—always has been.
I hope they do, not because I support Kamala the Cop but because if bad decisions are going to be made to sell out America's future based on propagandizing dubious scientific claims used to justify a huge transfer of wealth and opportunity to the fossil fuel utilizing third world - it ought to be made by someone closer in age to those who will actually suffer the consequences.
Good lord but these boomers in politics are self absorbed, control freaks like Queen E grasping power in their cold, arthritic fingers and seemingly registering incessant surprise with their botoxed eyebrows.
This is what journalism is supposed to look like. But when even the Intercept has switched sides, true journalists like Greenwald become even more valuable--and more threatened.
Everyday I feel more like the 2020s are going to be a lot like the 1920s. Yellow journalism, robber barons, a new lost generation and the rise of nationalism and xenophobia.
Don't leave out a President going after the robber banks and dying under very suspicious circumstances.....Harding. Even today he gets discredited by the mainstream and no questions asked of his actual platform.
Great piece Glenn, but as a fellow recovering lawyer I have a slightly different take. It begins with the important differences between three little words: information, misinformation, and disinformation.
I agree with you that the emails reported by the NY Post appear to be authentic. Hunter Biden has not denied their authenticity. They are information — and should be reported, regardless of the source. The letter from the intelligence community uses the phrase “information campaign,” not misinformation or disinformation.
Hunter Biden doesn’t appear in media reports to be such a crack-head to have left three laptops full of sensitive information in a New Jersey computer repair shop and then forgotten about them. That being said, the data security practiced by public figures is appalling, as was shown by Clinton, Podesta, and likely Trump himself. They constantly expose themselves to hacking. I have little doubt that Hunter Biden exposed his hard drive to Ukrainian, Russian, and Belarusian hacking, and that mirrored laptops could have been created in order to be “found” in New Jersey.
But my problem with pathological liars like Adam Schiff and our national Security propaganda apparatus and their enablers in the media is that the source of the information does not magically transform “information” into misinformation (mistaken understanding) or disinformation (lies). The lesson of the Pentagon Papers is that if the data can be confirmed as valid information, it must be reported on no matter the sourcing.
There are sworn statements from the owner of the computer service store that the laptops were in fact dropped off by Hunter Biden and never picked up. There are written receipts supporting the store owner's statements. Neither Hunter Biden nor anyone representing him has ever claimed the laptops were not left at the computer store, nor claimed that there were picked up. In light of all that evidence, your suggestion that Russian, Ukrainian, or Belarusian hacking was used to create fake copies of Hunter Biden's lap tops doesn't pass the laugh test.
Owner only can attest that the person who dropped the 3 laptops off identified himself as “Hunter Biden,” but can’t say with 100% certainty it was actually him. No need for a “proton beam” to mirror a computer — especially when it’s logged-on to Ukrainian WiFi! I worked in law enforcement for 34 years. All very do-able.
The provenance is interesting but irrelevant if the data is real — which it appears to be.
The provenance is clear: someone representing himself as 'Hunter Biden' dropped the laptops off at the store, and they were never picked up, and their repair never paid for. If they were not dropped by Hunder Biden, then surely he could dispute that. He could claim to have the "real laptops". He doesn't. Because he dropped them off at the store. As to whether or not Hunter Biden could be such a crack-head as to forget to pick up the laptops: he was once unable to buy gas because he had run past his credit card limits, and had to call a friend for help..... while earning $50,000 a month from Burisma. Yes, he may not have remembered the laptops, or he may just not have had the money to pay for the repair. Crack users often behave irresponsibly.
Re provenance, have you read the statement[1] released by the computer repair shop owner's attorney, Brian Della Rocca? It contains some details which weren't widely reported on (e.g. that Hunter Biden returned to the repair shop two days after he dropped off the laptops).
If you have time to read it, I'd be interested in your thoughts on it.
I didn't really get your point, but then, you did say that you were a lawyer. A lawyer should know that to misinform (someone) is to give false or misleading information to (them); thus, misinformation is false or misleading information. Disinformation is false information deliberately, and often covertly, spread in order to influence public opinion or obscure the truth. In all of the above, you may put scare quotes around the word "information". I suppose that, given their intended message, the letter from the intelligence community should have used the phrase "disinfomation campaign". Properly speaking, a Russki "information campaign" would be a campaign to spread the truth, whatever the motive.
"Properly speaking, a Russki "information campaign" would be a campaign to spread the truth, whatever the motive."
I am not really prepared to believe the Russian government or any of its agencies, etc, did anything at all, however, good catch: I AM prepared to believe whoever "spread" the materials was engaging in an information campaign.
Here's what I don't understand. If we're really supposed to believe that Putin is constantly trying to "undermine our democracy" then why wouldn't the people most concerned with Putin and his 4D chess playing over the last 4 year NOT be the people MOST interested in ensuring that nothing untoward happened during this election? It'd be just like Putin to try and create further discord and distrust in the superb American system by once again "hacking our election", to the point where I feel it was almost...treasonous...of Nancy to insist on postal voting, which can easily be manipulated by the Russians. I mean, is it possible that Nancy is a Russian asset? I think that the very real existence of meddling by the Red Menace means that we have to take the utmost caution when it comes to such an important aspect of our democracy as voting for a president.
My father in law constantly rails about how we needed to get to the bottom of interference in our election in 2016, so the steps taken were normal and natural. He's been quiet about China, Iran, and Russia's interference this year and has not brought up the need for investigation at all. I am very surprised.
The Dems use Dominion Software to fix elections. Evidence has been released today. In 2016. The Reps stopped it. This time, the couldn’t and 2,500,000 votes were switched to Biden. But fake news will never report it.
I don't know if I believe votes were switched. First of all, the original info changed in MI - the Antrim County clerk *misused* the software rather than the software making the error, we're now told (and yes I say "we're now told" as well-chosen language). So the software was not necessarily at fault. But what strikes me is how easily a malicious group of programmers at a company like Dominion COULD swing the election.
I think audits and recounts are very much in order for that reason alone.
Firstly, there should be no votes cast electronically, but we are sure to have votes COUNTED electronically; every bit of that should be open-source. Dominion should not even exist, in my view, but if there's no closing it down, then at least the processing should be absolutely transparent.
There should probably be an audit of the Dominion software with a "test counting" case, simulating a real election and seeing what results it produces.
When I saw “Still No Evidence” I was hoping you were going to talk about how the fake news is really being fake these days. I’ll mention a few things they should be investigating...at least five lawsuits (and more being filed daily), proof Dominion Software switched over 2,500,000 votes to Biden,
brave whistleblowers being fired, threatened at knifepoint and being “shaken down” by USPS officials, over 1,000 pages of affidavits in one county and on and on. Oh...most telling to me...if it’s nothing, why aren’t the Dems supporting the effort...may help in their unifying plea.
Please start a crossword so I can cancel my NYT subscription.
Please cancel your subscription and just clear your phone’s history to access the crossword. Or just look into other crossword puzzles. It’s time we put our money where our mouth is - as uncomfortable as that may be - and stop actively funding the criminal sources of our democracy’s demise.
Best post of the day. That's hilarious
You can subsribe to NYT Games including the crossword for $40 a year. I do, and I cancelled the paper. They are stone liars. They libeled me, and wouldnt correct, even with documentary evidence. Scum
About the NYT it can be said:
“I’d use it to wrap fish, but the smell is hard to get off the fish”.
Sorry, my comment about cancelling my subscription was meant for Tom from CA
You still have a subscription to the Ministry of Truth?? Bruh...
My faves are the Boston Globe Omnibus collections. There are three versions, they aren't as difficult as NYT's (which means I succeed at a higher rate 😆) and the themes are just pure fun. 👍👍
Lol
Wall Street Journal's app version provides their daily crossword for free. It's not as good as NYT, but still better than nothing. Another option is to buy a year's worth of NYT crosswords at a time in one of those pad-type calendars. Every tear-away-day has a crossword on it.
I have been a registered Republican, voting strong conservative values, for my entire voting career. 36 years. I have never purchased a subscription to any media outlet, cable packaging notwithstanding. This is the first time I have felt compelled to do so. Never thought my first time would be because of my respect for a journalist with liberal roots. But that day has arrived. Keep it up Mr. Greenwald.
I can beat you! Been a Republican for 40 years - and I've never even paid for cable!!! This is my first time paying for media of any kind. Glenn is amazing. The only people I read anymore are Glenn and Matt Taiibi (also here on Substack) and Victor Davis Hanson.
I got y'all beat. According to my Facebook profile I was born on January 1, 1901 making me over 120 years old. Given that the date has not been fact-checked as false by the Facebook-gestapo, it must be true. Or perhaps it just means that it fits the "accepted" narrative even if it's false. In any case, I was happy to hand Greenwald some of my hard earned money.
I think many of us are sick of the democrats and their lies and sick of the media that supports them. Sick of those on left-wing sites that have backed the democrats and no longer maintain any objectivity. Too often what they have to say is nothing more then anti-Trump rants. I've always considered myself a liberal, but the "left" now turns me off. Under Biden I doubt if I will recover, since I have always seen him as very opportunistic in his political life.
Since about 1990, the Democratic Party have conducted themselves to the RIGHT of Dwight Eisenhower.
Fran, please don't confuse these assholes for "the left." They're not. The GENUINE left are mostly self-described Progressives and these others simply aren't left, they're presently called Neo-Liberals - or just liberals - and they're decidedly NOT left.
...If you're on the genuine left, you actually support The People - the not-rich...
I certainly don't consider either party as liberal, and I am fully aware their first priority is servicing the corporate world, the rich, from whom they can depend on to finance their political careers, and not for one minute do I think of democrats as a liberal party, although that's what they hope people buy. Their behavior in the last 4 years with all their trumped up charges disgust me!!!!!!! The left wing sites on the net I use to see as a refuge during the Bush/Cheney years and even during Obama's 8 years in office are more or less gone, since they have shifted their allegiance to the democratic party and have become nothing more then Trump bashers. I think that was also true of the intercept. Even Greenpeace is asking for money using the Biden/Harris ticket as if they should inspire our hope. Biden in the eighties with his climate plan that was nothing more then a plan to make a plan that went nowhere? His lies about his involvement in the Paris Agreement accords, should inspire me? Obama lifted the ban on crude oil exports, and how proud both were that so much of America's oil was making it's way into foreign markets. These left wing sites have simply made the decision, anyone but Trump. I am on the left, but I'm not going to let those in the democratic party, or those left wing sites define what that means.
I've lived through the same period and understand your perspective. Do consider, though, that in statements like this:
"I am on the left, but I'm not going to let those in the democratic party, or those left wing sites define what that means."
...by calling them "left wing sites" (which aren't in fact left), you harm your goal of not letting them define what that means, which was my original point. ... Again, people like Hillary Clinton and her supporters - and Biden's for that matter - aren't left (though there are of course those that support these two "holding their noses", thinking they have no choice).
Ms. or Mr. Fran, I agree with you about these kinds of sites for news. I then remembered that these sites are for recent college graduates with several graduate students added in order to give everyone an opportunity for a shot of a career. Thus, without experience, their analyses are weak academic attempts at appearing intelligent. Ok, that is fine; but, not in writing for nationally distributed sites that claim high profile journalists. I also noticed that one well known journalist is thrown in to give the appearance of vast experience and knowledge. Slate, Salon - to me, are middle schools students trying to get a passing grade. And coming off as: Weak minded children who need additional instruction from a mentor. Yea, like you, I avoid this so called “Left”. I look forward to the younger members of Congress dumping people like that senile old woman, pelosi, in my view. No way a 80 year old person is capable of those kind of serious work. And in Congress there are dozens of these senile old men and senile old women. Young is 87 and has the virus. Feinstein is 85. Pelosi is around 82. Grassely is 82 give or take a year or two. There is nothing to expect from these senile old men and senile old women.
I like to read Taibbi and GG too but limiting yourself to 3 seems limiting. Wouldn't you like to develop your critical thinking skills by reading also stuff you don't agree with?
Actually, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm a Reagan conservative, so reading these liberal guys IS stretching me. I also read Conrad Black from the right. That's plenty of reading up on the news. Plenty.
I read two on the left: GG and Taibbi and two on the right: Black and VDH
Yep...
I too am an avid reader of VDH. It hurts my heart that a National Review subscription is required to read all his stuff.
Not required at all. RealClearPolitics reposts all his articles.
Time for Glenn to join Parler. Oh, he would rake in the subscriptions.
Well said!!
Sorry Rob, my comment about cancelling my subscription was meant for Tom from CA
No problem.
Rob, it's easy when you know how! I canceled my Boston Glob (no, not a typo, the Globe used to be a respected newspaper, not any more) subscription once I signed up for Glenn and Matt T on Substack.
...This is why I paid $150 to be a founding member... Thank you for not having selective-amnesia like the rest of media
There wasn't and still isn't solid evidence/proof that Russia hacked the DNC either....but it is now accepted as fact.
Here in the Us we do everything faster, so, Winstons old adage; "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on " is on steroids in our MSM, here the truth cannot even find its pants.
"....but it is now accepted as fact" ... by low-intelligence people.
BTW, that quote has normally been attributed to Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) as: "A lie gets half-way round the world before the truth has its pants on."
It's a well-known psychological trait of humans that the first narrative they hear tends to have a strong inertia for them.
I never heard that. being the first narrative I have ever heard about first narratives having a strong inertia, I will err on the side of cynicism and call you a liar.
Reread your Thucydides "Most people, in fact, will not take the trouble in finding out the truth, but are much more inclined to accept the first story they hear."
I never read it in the first place. I'll take your word for it.
Pants are a coverup - Truth does not wear pants.
Like Toobin on a zoom call, it ain't shy 'bout rubbing it out either
Glenn, Well worth the whole price of my subscription—and more!—to read your statement that Adam Schiff is "the single most shameless pathological liar in the U.S. Congress by a good margin". You might add to that that he's also the most dangerous lunatic in Congress—witness that crazy speech he gave after the impeachment. Some of the similarly lunatic media crowd described his speech as "magistarial". Good grief. I lived through the McCarthy Era once and I don't want to do it again. I hope that there are enough sane people in the state of Washington to remove him from office at the first opportunity. Or maybe he left a computer for repair in some obscure, dusty little shop and forgot about it and we can get rid of him that way. Let's hope. I don't think that they can keep the Hunter-and-Joe-Biden scandal in the deep six forever, by the way. Joe Biden is as crooked as they come and a really evil man. And incidentally, I am neither a Republican nor a Trump supporter. Nor am I working for Vladimir Putin, although if he had run for President of the U.S. I might have tried to vote, given what was on offer.
... sane people in the state of Washington
Schiff is the rep from Beautiful Downtown Burbank, California's 28 district. Back in the day they were rejoined for their humour. Now they are just mean and nasty.
Schiff was just reelected winning 73% of the vote. No my friend, there is no hope.
Yes, you are quite right about Schiff's congressional district, and I thank you for correcting my error. I saw myself that I had made that error, as well as having spelled "magisterial" incorrectly (that was a simple typo); but the site doesn't have an "edit" function, unfortunately. Since there are quite often things I would like to correct in my posts (I try to be careful, but I am not a good proofreader), I find that very frustrating. As for Schiff's reelection, one can only be astounded at the disastrously poor judgment of the voters of California's 28 district, just as one was astounded when the voters of Wisconsin returned Joseph McCarthy to the Senate in 1952 after his "red scare" witch-hunting had begun, which was in 1950. The only decent thing that McCarthy did was to die in 1957 before his second Senate term ran out, and we can only hope that Adam Schiff will show everyone similar consideration.
He is not magisterial. That is reserved for the world's greatest Footballer, Lionel Messi (per Ray Hudson!)
... renowned [autocorrect]
I met Schiff several years ago... I like many, many Dems, support moderate Dems with campaign $ including in this cycle. I'm a centrist in general. Schiff is unctuous in person and his actions are generally despicable, I have to say. Nunes is lambasted and yet go read his report - careful, thoughtful and reasoned. Schiff's memo by contrast has proven to be a bunch of narrative-spinning and BS over time.
Looking through Schiff's history is an eye opener. Per his wiki, "After the 2000 census, the district was renumbered as the 29th and made significantly more Democratic. As a result, Schiff has never faced another contest nearly as close as his 2000 bid, and has been reelected nine times." Yes, re-districting works to keep you in office.
Redistricting coming again for the next election. CA uses citizen panels, so no gerrymandering. We can hope.
Schiff is mentally ill.
Nah...just an a-hole.
Question: If these 50 or so former intel "experts" have no evidence of Russian disinformation, how is it even reasonable to speculate about it? Maybe the Pope did it? And, why did they not encourage the MSM to get to the bottom of this?
Answer: Simple. The statement's purpose was NOT to info the American Public, but to mislead it by given the MSM a seemingly 'credible' talking point to tell people to ignore everything.
The fault lies with the American public that readily accepts total bullsh.it like this....and a media that feeds it to them.
Apparently, while Trump and Fox News need to be held accountable for their "lies", that doesn't apply to anyone else. A cohesive society cannot exist in such an unhealthy state....
At Trump's inauguration, 50+ members of Congress refused to attend because of Trump's supposed collusion with Russia. Which had not been proved then or at any subsequent time. The Democrats use Russia for disinformation.
Everything you said and Glenn said is true. The questions are: "what can be done about it?" AND "where do things go from here?"
Are people going to wake up to this or are we headed for a situation where the Borg that believes these narratives has voting control of the country?
Exactly! And we smugly look down our noses at Russia...
I’d like to think there’s easy answers to your appropriate questions, but I don’t think there is..
Certainly, the first step is to recognize the problem exists.
Second, peoples’ eyes need to be opened to the misinformation.
Need more Glenn Greenwalds to shine a light on it.
I'm hopeful that we're entering an era where if Trump is absent one can point out a hypocrisy or lie from someone in power without being accused of helping Putin. Or that, if one continues to be accused of that, a wider number of people more quickly realize the insanity of it. Unfortunately, social media is involved.
I see social media separating.
With the rampant censorship taking place, everyone of every political persuasion will realize that these platforms are a singular reality...
You have GoFundMe de-platforming campaigns now.
It will generate even less interaction.
We’ll see two separate “public squares”...
Boycott. You know who. Just imagine 73,000,000 canceling subscriptions. They can subscribe to Glenn instead! 😊
"The fault lies with the American public that readily accepts total bullshit like this....and a media that feeds it to them."
Amen!
Next? TrumpTV!
Everything one needs to know about today's media was epitomized in a single tweet by New York Times’ tech writer Kevin Roose:
“For the conservatives who are mad about [the election results]: yes, it is possible for a story to be factually accurate *and* for it to be part of a misinformation campaign aimed at undermining confidence in an election.”
Factually accurate stories are misinformation? Only if War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength, Kevin.
Thank you for getting out the facts and letting us decide how it impacts our actions. This is all we ever wanted from the press.
Oh, fear not. Once Biden is safely ensconced in the White House and before his first diaper is changed, the propagandists will miraculously regain their journalistic ethics and SlowJoe will be forced out using the mountain of dirt accumulated throughout his crime spree of a career in “public service”. This to pave way for a true believer—you know the “African American” VP who rose through the ranks on her knees. Being Indian and Jamaican, raised in Canada, secular, never had kids, corrupt DA and married to a rich white guy—she has her finger on Black America’s pulse.
OK, we get it, you don't like Joe and despise (or is it visceral hate?) Kamala. Cool it, darling, and have a martini. Shaken, not stirred. It will do you good.
It’s not a matter of liking or disliking them. I don’t know them and neither do you. It’s a matter of facts in their past words and deeds. Joe and Kamala are both liars and adulterers—as is Trump. And one may choose to vote for them for policy reasons. Like has nothing to do with it. The big problem with Biden is his corruption. He’s for sale—always has been.
I hope they do, not because I support Kamala the Cop but because if bad decisions are going to be made to sell out America's future based on propagandizing dubious scientific claims used to justify a huge transfer of wealth and opportunity to the fossil fuel utilizing third world - it ought to be made by someone closer in age to those who will actually suffer the consequences.
Good lord but these boomers in politics are self absorbed, control freaks like Queen E grasping power in their cold, arthritic fingers and seemingly registering incessant surprise with their botoxed eyebrows.
I'm still sad about Sean Connery. Too soon.
Cheer up! We've got Catholics in our southern hemisphere
This is what journalism is supposed to look like. But when even the Intercept has switched sides, true journalists like Greenwald become even more valuable--and more threatened.
Everyday I feel more like the 2020s are going to be a lot like the 1920s. Yellow journalism, robber barons, a new lost generation and the rise of nationalism and xenophobia.
Don't leave out a President going after the robber banks and dying under very suspicious circumstances.....Harding. Even today he gets discredited by the mainstream and no questions asked of his actual platform.
You Harding Hardon-ers are always all over the message boards. When will it ever end?
Perhaps this is why Barach Obama overturned the Smith Mundt Act of 1948 to allow propaganda into the US corporate mainstream newsmedia.
Great piece Glenn, but as a fellow recovering lawyer I have a slightly different take. It begins with the important differences between three little words: information, misinformation, and disinformation.
I agree with you that the emails reported by the NY Post appear to be authentic. Hunter Biden has not denied their authenticity. They are information — and should be reported, regardless of the source. The letter from the intelligence community uses the phrase “information campaign,” not misinformation or disinformation.
Hunter Biden doesn’t appear in media reports to be such a crack-head to have left three laptops full of sensitive information in a New Jersey computer repair shop and then forgotten about them. That being said, the data security practiced by public figures is appalling, as was shown by Clinton, Podesta, and likely Trump himself. They constantly expose themselves to hacking. I have little doubt that Hunter Biden exposed his hard drive to Ukrainian, Russian, and Belarusian hacking, and that mirrored laptops could have been created in order to be “found” in New Jersey.
But my problem with pathological liars like Adam Schiff and our national Security propaganda apparatus and their enablers in the media is that the source of the information does not magically transform “information” into misinformation (mistaken understanding) or disinformation (lies). The lesson of the Pentagon Papers is that if the data can be confirmed as valid information, it must be reported on no matter the sourcing.
There are sworn statements from the owner of the computer service store that the laptops were in fact dropped off by Hunter Biden and never picked up. There are written receipts supporting the store owner's statements. Neither Hunter Biden nor anyone representing him has ever claimed the laptops were not left at the computer store, nor claimed that there were picked up. In light of all that evidence, your suggestion that Russian, Ukrainian, or Belarusian hacking was used to create fake copies of Hunter Biden's lap tops doesn't pass the laugh test.
the laptops were flash imaged remotely using russian proton beam technology
Owner only can attest that the person who dropped the 3 laptops off identified himself as “Hunter Biden,” but can’t say with 100% certainty it was actually him. No need for a “proton beam” to mirror a computer — especially when it’s logged-on to Ukrainian WiFi! I worked in law enforcement for 34 years. All very do-able.
The provenance is interesting but irrelevant if the data is real — which it appears to be.
The provenance is clear: someone representing himself as 'Hunter Biden' dropped the laptops off at the store, and they were never picked up, and their repair never paid for. If they were not dropped by Hunder Biden, then surely he could dispute that. He could claim to have the "real laptops". He doesn't. Because he dropped them off at the store. As to whether or not Hunter Biden could be such a crack-head as to forget to pick up the laptops: he was once unable to buy gas because he had run past his credit card limits, and had to call a friend for help..... while earning $50,000 a month from Burisma. Yes, he may not have remembered the laptops, or he may just not have had the money to pay for the repair. Crack users often behave irresponsibly.
And there’s the Tony Bobulinski testimony to the FBI...10% to the Big Guy.
Biden’s lawyer asked for their return.
Re provenance, have you read the statement[1] released by the computer repair shop owner's attorney, Brian Della Rocca? It contains some details which weren't widely reported on (e.g. that Hunter Biden returned to the repair shop two days after he dropped off the laptops).
If you have time to read it, I'd be interested in your thoughts on it.
[1]https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-10/DellaRoccaStatementtoJTN.pdf
I didn't really get your point, but then, you did say that you were a lawyer. A lawyer should know that to misinform (someone) is to give false or misleading information to (them); thus, misinformation is false or misleading information. Disinformation is false information deliberately, and often covertly, spread in order to influence public opinion or obscure the truth. In all of the above, you may put scare quotes around the word "information". I suppose that, given their intended message, the letter from the intelligence community should have used the phrase "disinfomation campaign". Properly speaking, a Russki "information campaign" would be a campaign to spread the truth, whatever the motive.
"Properly speaking, a Russki "information campaign" would be a campaign to spread the truth, whatever the motive."
I am not really prepared to believe the Russian government or any of its agencies, etc, did anything at all, however, good catch: I AM prepared to believe whoever "spread" the materials was engaging in an information campaign.
I thought they were left in Delaware, not Jersey.
"Hunter Biden doesn’t appear in media reports to be such a crack-head to have left three laptops . .."
You ever smoker crack? I have.
Here's what I don't understand. If we're really supposed to believe that Putin is constantly trying to "undermine our democracy" then why wouldn't the people most concerned with Putin and his 4D chess playing over the last 4 year NOT be the people MOST interested in ensuring that nothing untoward happened during this election? It'd be just like Putin to try and create further discord and distrust in the superb American system by once again "hacking our election", to the point where I feel it was almost...treasonous...of Nancy to insist on postal voting, which can easily be manipulated by the Russians. I mean, is it possible that Nancy is a Russian asset? I think that the very real existence of meddling by the Red Menace means that we have to take the utmost caution when it comes to such an important aspect of our democracy as voting for a president.
My father in law constantly rails about how we needed to get to the bottom of interference in our election in 2016, so the steps taken were normal and natural. He's been quiet about China, Iran, and Russia's interference this year and has not brought up the need for investigation at all. I am very surprised.
If you think a second world country with a GDP about the same as Spain can be more influential than the us political industrial complex...
The Dems use Dominion Software to fix elections. Evidence has been released today. In 2016. The Reps stopped it. This time, the couldn’t and 2,500,000 votes were switched to Biden. But fake news will never report it.
Where do you believe votes were switched?
28 states and more to come.
I don't know if I believe votes were switched. First of all, the original info changed in MI - the Antrim County clerk *misused* the software rather than the software making the error, we're now told (and yes I say "we're now told" as well-chosen language). So the software was not necessarily at fault. But what strikes me is how easily a malicious group of programmers at a company like Dominion COULD swing the election.
I think audits and recounts are very much in order for that reason alone.
Firstly, there should be no votes cast electronically, but we are sure to have votes COUNTED electronically; every bit of that should be open-source. Dominion should not even exist, in my view, but if there's no closing it down, then at least the processing should be absolutely transparent.
OK now there is this. RCI is considered "mostly factual right-center bias", btw:
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/11/13/pro-biden_bug_also_suspected_in_georgias_vote-counting_software__125995.html
There should probably be an audit of the Dominion software with a "test counting" case, simulating a real election and seeing what results it produces.
Have you felt for a pulse?
When I saw “Still No Evidence” I was hoping you were going to talk about how the fake news is really being fake these days. I’ll mention a few things they should be investigating...at least five lawsuits (and more being filed daily), proof Dominion Software switched over 2,500,000 votes to Biden,
brave whistleblowers being fired, threatened at knifepoint and being “shaken down” by USPS officials, over 1,000 pages of affidavits in one county and on and on. Oh...most telling to me...if it’s nothing, why aren’t the Dems supporting the effort...may help in their unifying plea.
Thank you, Glenn. Long may you run.