"I have to add that your comments about The Intercept and your colleagues are offensive and unacceptable."
This is the exact type of response i received from my superiors at a previous organization i worked at when i pointed out glaring issues in the way they were functioning. It seems to be a psychology defense mechanism to take the criticism personally and attack the messenger rather than being able to acknowledge the reality of failure that's pervading the organization. Suffice to say shortly after resigning from that corporation it went under. Anyway all the best Glenn, you have support for what you're doing.
Betsy's retort is all we need to see. No response to your claims and concerns, just an open "you don't want to work with us" kind of attitude and then subsequently trying to shame you for bringing up your "Intercept colleagues". Pretty clear they had no valid response to being called out.
I just bought a subscription for the sole purpose of supporting a brave journo. My God, I first heard you on Democracy Now, the ultra-progressive show - you are in no way, shape or form a member of the far right. You are a man of your own mind and I have a high level of respect. Please continue and thank you, thank you, thank you for standing up.
"However, it's clear from your response this morning that you are unwilling to engage in a productive editorial process on this article, as we had hoped."
That is maddening.
If an editor is going to violate your contract with the publication, then the presupposition of evidence should be on them. They should need to demonstrate plainly why this is necessary. If you have questions (and of course you did) then they need to respond to them.
Your response was articulate and clear. It should have been easy for them to debate you on the matter if they weren't so clearly in the wrong.
Mr Greenwald- I took note of and regularly followed the Intercept many years ago only to watch it slowly devolve into what I saw as the same click-bait liberal bias 'journalism' available elsewhere. Eventually, I lost interest in the Intercept and moved on...
Imagine my surprise to read about your struggles related to this Biden article! I have followed you here to Substack and have just purchased a full year subscription for your upcoming work. I made that decision despite not currently being in a financial position where my choice was prudent. Regardless, the choice was an easy one to make.
I sincerely hope my small contribution helps you and that you continue to write following your own sense of journalistic integrity. I'm looking forward to seeing where that leads. In the tiniest of ways, we are in this together. Best of luck to you!
Read the censored article and ask yourself this question:
Would The Intercept publish the article if you replaced "Hunter Biden" with "Donald Trump Jr." and "Joe Biden" with "President Trump/Donald J. Trump/Donal Trump"?
Wow. Just freaking wow. After Glen responds with a point by point answer to each objection raised, Betsy doesn't even engage on the facts at hand. She just reaches for the carpet-bomb denial tool and whips out the old "how dare you disrespect "muh au-tor-i-tah" (cue Cartman in South Park). All those pathetic Democratic Party hacks over at the Intercept better start looking for new jobs, because Greenwald was the Michael Jordan that the whole squad was built around..... now that he is gone, there is no reason to read that drivel they spew out over there. They went woke and will be going broke. I gladly purchased my 1 year subscription today, I was already subscribed to Taibbi, now I have 2 awesome reasons to be at Substack.
Rock on Glenn ! You will be amazed at how much support you are about to get from Classical Liberals, Conservatives, really anybody who just wants to see honest, well-researched journalism that gives no cares about which power centers get hit (Left or Right or whatever).
“Offensive and unacceptable” are two attributes at the top of my ‘must have’ list for investigative journalism. When those words are uttered, you’ve turned up the heat on the right burner.
99% of people would have caved in to this editor's demands & subsequent bullying, but Greenwald is the other 1% and of course I am going to support him and encourage others to do the same. I would strongly encourage everyone to watch GG's appearance on the JRE (Joe Rogan) as they have a really insightful conversation about the fault lines in play between the establishment / authoritarian media and their silicon valley allies and the new media that is emerging as people look for sources that they can trust and identify with.
Though I sometimes disagree with your opinion, my ancestors back to before the Revolutionary War have fought and died to enshrine and protect your privilege to express it unencumbered by any other living soul. Happy to subscribe as a Founder.
Dear Mr. Greenwald. I saw you on Tucker Carlson last night and wanted to do whatever I could to support you, so I purchased a year subscription. I don't know how much we will agree on details, policy and the like, but that is not what is important now. What we will agree on, is the vital pursuit of truth. I am so grateful to you for your courage. Those that think your resignation was an over-reaction are delusional. It's clear that our right to free speech and our access to truthful journalism is quickly disappearing. What is needed now is clarity, a well-formed conscience and courage. Spinning webs of rationalization is very dangerous. I honor your courage and will continue to support you, even if we disagree on policy...etc. I leave you with my favorite quote from C.S. Lewis:
"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point, which means at the point of highest reality. A chastity or honesty or mercy which yields to danger will be chaste or honest or merciful only on conditions."
It's not really clear to me from these emails that they were outright refusing to publish it, and forbidding it from being published elsewhere? It seems like your response escalated very quickly. Rather than 'I disagree with your commentary, I want to publish as is,' you assert that TI is not willing to publish, and then start insulting their editorial standards (rightly or wrongly). I really agree on the terrible way the media has handled this story, but tbh I would hate to be on the receiving end of an email like this.
First time in 10 years I have paid for news because I have been disgusted with it. And where it has been going. I don’t always agree with your POV but I have respected it. I have been waiting and hoping for a revolt among journalists as I have feared for our fourth estate and thus the country. We cannot be a healthy society without a healthy 4th estate. I am slowly but surely seeing that revolution. I just subscribed and will continue to support your outlet as long as it strives to be the vision you have described.
"I have to add that your comments about The Intercept and your colleagues are offensive and unacceptable."
This is the exact type of response i received from my superiors at a previous organization i worked at when i pointed out glaring issues in the way they were functioning. It seems to be a psychology defense mechanism to take the criticism personally and attack the messenger rather than being able to acknowledge the reality of failure that's pervading the organization. Suffice to say shortly after resigning from that corporation it went under. Anyway all the best Glenn, you have support for what you're doing.
Betsy's retort is all we need to see. No response to your claims and concerns, just an open "you don't want to work with us" kind of attitude and then subsequently trying to shame you for bringing up your "Intercept colleagues". Pretty clear they had no valid response to being called out.
Thanks again, Glenn!
I just bought a subscription for the sole purpose of supporting a brave journo. My God, I first heard you on Democracy Now, the ultra-progressive show - you are in no way, shape or form a member of the far right. You are a man of your own mind and I have a high level of respect. Please continue and thank you, thank you, thank you for standing up.
What a ridiculous response from The Intercept.
"However, it's clear from your response this morning that you are unwilling to engage in a productive editorial process on this article, as we had hoped."
That is maddening.
If an editor is going to violate your contract with the publication, then the presupposition of evidence should be on them. They should need to demonstrate plainly why this is necessary. If you have questions (and of course you did) then they need to respond to them.
Your response was articulate and clear. It should have been easy for them to debate you on the matter if they weren't so clearly in the wrong.
Mr Greenwald- I took note of and regularly followed the Intercept many years ago only to watch it slowly devolve into what I saw as the same click-bait liberal bias 'journalism' available elsewhere. Eventually, I lost interest in the Intercept and moved on...
Imagine my surprise to read about your struggles related to this Biden article! I have followed you here to Substack and have just purchased a full year subscription for your upcoming work. I made that decision despite not currently being in a financial position where my choice was prudent. Regardless, the choice was an easy one to make.
I sincerely hope my small contribution helps you and that you continue to write following your own sense of journalistic integrity. I'm looking forward to seeing where that leads. In the tiniest of ways, we are in this together. Best of luck to you!
Read the censored article and ask yourself this question:
Would The Intercept publish the article if you replaced "Hunter Biden" with "Donald Trump Jr." and "Joe Biden" with "President Trump/Donald J. Trump/Donal Trump"?
Thank you for standing up for journalistic integrity and freedom of speech.
Wow. Just freaking wow. After Glen responds with a point by point answer to each objection raised, Betsy doesn't even engage on the facts at hand. She just reaches for the carpet-bomb denial tool and whips out the old "how dare you disrespect "muh au-tor-i-tah" (cue Cartman in South Park). All those pathetic Democratic Party hacks over at the Intercept better start looking for new jobs, because Greenwald was the Michael Jordan that the whole squad was built around..... now that he is gone, there is no reason to read that drivel they spew out over there. They went woke and will be going broke. I gladly purchased my 1 year subscription today, I was already subscribed to Taibbi, now I have 2 awesome reasons to be at Substack.
Rock on Glenn ! You will be amazed at how much support you are about to get from Classical Liberals, Conservatives, really anybody who just wants to see honest, well-researched journalism that gives no cares about which power centers get hit (Left or Right or whatever).
“Offensive and unacceptable” are two attributes at the top of my ‘must have’ list for investigative journalism. When those words are uttered, you’ve turned up the heat on the right burner.
My new favorite news source. The future of journalism is readers paying reporters directly. We're tired of media designed to sell advertising.
99% of people would have caved in to this editor's demands & subsequent bullying, but Greenwald is the other 1% and of course I am going to support him and encourage others to do the same. I would strongly encourage everyone to watch GG's appearance on the JRE (Joe Rogan) as they have a really insightful conversation about the fault lines in play between the establishment / authoritarian media and their silicon valley allies and the new media that is emerging as people look for sources that they can trust and identify with.
Though I sometimes disagree with your opinion, my ancestors back to before the Revolutionary War have fought and died to enshrine and protect your privilege to express it unencumbered by any other living soul. Happy to subscribe as a Founder.
Dear Mr. Greenwald. I saw you on Tucker Carlson last night and wanted to do whatever I could to support you, so I purchased a year subscription. I don't know how much we will agree on details, policy and the like, but that is not what is important now. What we will agree on, is the vital pursuit of truth. I am so grateful to you for your courage. Those that think your resignation was an over-reaction are delusional. It's clear that our right to free speech and our access to truthful journalism is quickly disappearing. What is needed now is clarity, a well-formed conscience and courage. Spinning webs of rationalization is very dangerous. I honor your courage and will continue to support you, even if we disagree on policy...etc. I leave you with my favorite quote from C.S. Lewis:
"Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point, which means at the point of highest reality. A chastity or honesty or mercy which yields to danger will be chaste or honest or merciful only on conditions."
Godspeed!
It's not really clear to me from these emails that they were outright refusing to publish it, and forbidding it from being published elsewhere? It seems like your response escalated very quickly. Rather than 'I disagree with your commentary, I want to publish as is,' you assert that TI is not willing to publish, and then start insulting their editorial standards (rightly or wrongly). I really agree on the terrible way the media has handled this story, but tbh I would hate to be on the receiving end of an email like this.
Imagine calling censorship of this story "inaccurate" when multiple social media platforms and news outlets have openly stated as much. Chilling.
First time in 10 years I have paid for news because I have been disgusted with it. And where it has been going. I don’t always agree with your POV but I have respected it. I have been waiting and hoping for a revolt among journalists as I have feared for our fourth estate and thus the country. We cannot be a healthy society without a healthy 4th estate. I am slowly but surely seeing that revolution. I just subscribed and will continue to support your outlet as long as it strives to be the vision you have described.