I read it and I was not impressed. He tries too hard to make the "left" heroes and the "right" villains. I understand his point about how modern definitions of the political spectrum are outdated. The problem for me is how he oversimplifies history. No shit the fascists were bad, but never try to whitewash communism to me.
I didn't notice any whitewashing of communism. -shrug- But, thanks for commenting.
The point being made here, though, was about liberals not being left - they're neither right nor left as the article points out. Do you disagree? If so, I'd be curious about why.
If you mean liberals as in Classical Liberals then yes they were unique in that the fell in the middle of the economic spectrum and believed in the rights and value of the individual. Traditional liberalism and conservatism here in the United States are based in Classical Liberalism. Neoliberalism and Neoconservatism have nothing to do with Classical Liberalism and there have been a lot of smoke and mirrors to pretend nothing has changed.
True Communism is at the far LEFT endpoint of the axis, you know the REAL one that has 100% State control, 0% individual freedom at the far LEFT endpoint.
It's erudite, not intended for the idiocracy, obviously, and it's the very opposite of obfuscation except, I suppose, for those with extremely short attention spans.
Indeed. The work referenced actually discusses at least for different methodologies of looking at politics with axies, all of them flawed, and it points out a lot of those flaws.
I believe today's Populist uprising is telling the elitists to stop over-complicating eternal truths, like the eternal truth of the right side of the political axis being classical liberalism, increasing individual freedom, decreasing State power, to the RIGHT.
Even presuming this is entirely true, "Neo libs are 100% left of me", that doesn't make them left.
It's all explained here.
http://thetroypress.com/articles/art/20210314/art.20210314.html
If there's anything there you disagree with, we can have a conversation about it.
I read it and I was not impressed. He tries too hard to make the "left" heroes and the "right" villains. I understand his point about how modern definitions of the political spectrum are outdated. The problem for me is how he oversimplifies history. No shit the fascists were bad, but never try to whitewash communism to me.
I didn't notice any whitewashing of communism. -shrug- But, thanks for commenting.
The point being made here, though, was about liberals not being left - they're neither right nor left as the article points out. Do you disagree? If so, I'd be curious about why.
If you mean liberals as in Classical Liberals then yes they were unique in that the fell in the middle of the economic spectrum and believed in the rights and value of the individual. Traditional liberalism and conservatism here in the United States are based in Classical Liberalism. Neoliberalism and Neoconservatism have nothing to do with Classical Liberalism and there have been a lot of smoke and mirrors to pretend nothing has changed.
Yeah, if you don't define the two "liberal"s, you are confusing. The two are opposites.
True Communism is at the far LEFT endpoint of the axis, you know the REAL one that has 100% State control, 0% individual freedom at the far LEFT endpoint.
My point is using Communism in defense of your position is weak.
(Ha! You used the word "point" in two different ways, and I used it in a third.)
It actually makes Icon even more right wing than suspected.
Much too complicated. Can be used to obfuscate, making it dangerous as well as garbage.
It's erudite, not intended for the idiocracy, obviously, and it's the very opposite of obfuscation except, I suppose, for those with extremely short attention spans.
Sorry to set you off, M. Art. Just reinforcing my two cents. An axis is a line segment, one straight line ending in endpoints.
Indeed. The work referenced actually discusses at least for different methodologies of looking at politics with axies, all of them flawed, and it points out a lot of those flaws.
I agree the work does have some truth in it. It is complicated!
I believe today's Populist uprising is telling the elitists to stop over-complicating eternal truths, like the eternal truth of the right side of the political axis being classical liberalism, increasing individual freedom, decreasing State power, to the RIGHT.