Along with a group of heterodox writers, this move is designed to expand the reach of our journalism, support free speech platforms, and enable more reader interaction.
Thank you Glenn. I am so grateful for Substack and Rumble. You know, I don't remember voting for Pichai (google & youtube), Dorsey (Twitter), Zuckerberg (fb) or for that matter, Bezos (Wapo, and the man who silenced Parler)....Who are these people to dictate what we can and can't say and/or read? They have betrayed the implicit trust that we placed in them. We should all work hard to support the genuine free speech platforms in every way possible.
Look at it another way. They ave revealed so much to us. The fact that they are political cowards who are fabulously rich from it. They lack all integrity. Does that mean to get so rich that's what you have to become. And even worse you forgot Gates and Fauci who were and are far far worse. They have given us the signs that capitalism is a failed social/economic system and that our "so called democracy" is simply a MASK concealing the REAL. A SPECTACLE an emperor without any clothes on. Pomp and Circumstance.
I read recently that Epstein was a contact agent for CIA, and that is one of the reasons he was able to fly under cover for so long before this extreme perversions were finally revealed.
This is an amazing and urgently-needed initiative. Thank you Glenn for truly igniting a Promethean fire under the asses of the imperial mouth pieces known as the MSM, and their oligarchical overlords.
Hopefully many more will join you such that you can build a block that causes the MSM to crumble, as if before our eyes.
The modern Gods of Olympus think they are infallible. They believe humanity is just a bunch of blank slates incapable of making any genuine creative leap or axiomatic change. Their misanthropic and Malthusian view prevents them from really seeing it any other way. We are just blank slates; no ideas which they do not sanction will ever be able to take off.
If the population is demoralized, it won't fight back. If the perception is that nothing can be done and the fight is over, then people become willing to think (and do) the unthinkable. But if they believe there is still a chance, that the fight is not over, and that it can be won, then those in power have a serious problem on their hands.
As the poet Shelley once wrote in his poem "The Mask of Anarchy":
Negative Capability: The Genius of Keats and Einstein
“To develop a complete mind: Study the science of art; Study the art of science. Learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.”
"simultaneity of eternity"....Yes! I ponered this hard and long in my youth, finally coming to a revelation I express thus: [1≡∞] -- One IS Eternity! The single moment of the eternal NOW.
Certainly not as elegant as a poem by Yeats. But an internal revelation of thinking that actually led to a spiritual revelation in my mid twenties. Something that attends my spirit constantly.
Of course it is right now.
...........
It will be right now, anytime you choose to read this again.
I second your point -- Greenwald is an accurate source of truth -- although I suppose the need to think for ourselves can lead to seeing exceptions to that.
Thank you Glenn. Your analysis of deceptive slander by Bezos/CIA newspaper WaPo is outstanding.
Poor AI technology WaPo "journalist", Drew Harwell, there got a massive CIA assistance to concoct "his" article.
In the US there is still left unexplored the huge role of UK in concocting the lies and propaganda, e.g., the Russia-gate hoax, including Scripal and Navalny "poisonings" and US+UK fabrications of OPCW reports on Syria -- fully exposed by top experts at OPCW. Corporate media in both US and UK is FULLY integrated in secret services gigantic apparatus of our War party oligarchs.
Note how, in desperation and sensing the danger, DNC/CIA handlers instructed their "progressive" media servants e.g., TYT's despicable Cenk & Ana to go on maximally unhinged attack on the Gray-zone high-integrity team and, especially, on its truly outstanding and high-integrity journalist Aaron Mate.
Free the publisher of a century and leading free speech advocate, Julian Assange, tortured by the UK and US establishment
Congrats. Keep up the good work. Eventually, the Washington Post will become the journalistic equivalent of Sears or Westinghouse some other industry leader that went by the wayside.
Cool, this is so great! I am listening to your first Rumble broadcast right now. Substack plus Rumble is a great combo for those of us who demand free speech.
Thank you. I joined Rumble but will likely never upload anything. I just had my 73d birthday and believe it was my last. I don't have the strength or time to do so. You give me hope.
It leans "conservative"? I no longer know what that means. Conservatives and Liberals are little different in adherence to the principles of Western post-enlightenment liberalism. It's the loud-mouthed fringe on left and right that are illiberal.
Mark Levin lowered the boom on 19 Republican Senators with this warning
On Sean Hannity’s show, Mark Levin ripped the 19 Republicans who voted for Joe Biden’s $1.2 trillion spending bill for supporting tyranny.
The popular talk show host questioned how anyone could read a 2,700 page bill in just a matter of days.
Levin told the audience that “we choose liberty but the 19 Republicans in the Senate chose tyranny. Biden chooses tyranny and every single Democrat lockstep is for tyranny. How many people know what’s in that 2,700 page document that just passed today, with the 19 Republicans?”
Levin referred to these 19 RINOs – led by Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney – as the “Bernie Madoffs” of the Republican Party because they are con artists trying to fool voters into thinking they are fiscal conservatives while supporting Biden’s big-spending agenda, which is driving skyrocketing inflation.
I don't see how Rumble is exactly a free speech platform after reading their Terms of Service (https://rumble.com/s/terms), the usual culprits are there:
"Rumble enables creators of Content to submit Content to the Rumble Service in accordance with the Agency Options set forth below. Under no circumstances shall the following be submitted to the Rumble Service:
…
7. Content or material that is grossly offensive to the online community, including but not limited to, racism, anti-semitism and hatred;
…
13. Any other Content or material that Rumble in its sole, unfettered, and arbitrary discretion, determines is undesirable on the Rumble Service.
Everything is relative. Lawyers are going to make every site have broad discretion in who they can ban os they don't get sued, but they've been around for 8 years and the proof is in the pudding. Tons of people who can't get a platform anywhere else - including Trump - are there and free to say what they want while they get censored on almost every other platform.
Greenwald misleadingly says "Lawyers are going to make every site" put potentially anti-freedom clauses into its terms of service. First of all, lawyers don't compel their clients. But more importantly, legal clauses that are systematically abusive against the consumer aren't inevitable: libertarians and the left and the populist right all realize this. When nobody besides neoliberals likes the status quo that lets corporations set whatever terms they like, an opponent of neoliberalism shouldn't take that landscape for granted.
As many have pointed out, online services have been known to get worse over time, so you can't just appeal to past performance with Greenwald's phrase "the proof is in the pudding"; that feels a bit like rationalization or dodging things, just like when he tries to put the blame on how lawyers are accustomed to working. What Greenwald is omitting is that there are better things that a good online service could do even today. A good online service could take a more moderate approach by supplementing the usual oppressive legalese with a promise not to take certain actions if opposed by a consultation of people from the user base.
The reason why commenters like Tim and others are pressing Greenwald on this is because they sense, reasonably enough, that Greenwald may be more or less the individual who is in the best position to help with it. It seems that, to whatever extent Greenwald shares these concerns, he is choosing not to speak out about them, which I find interesting; he's kind of rationalizing the concerns away when others express them. He says "Everything is relative", and part of what lies behind that not-very-expressive phrase is a lack of power, feeling that even speaking might backfire against him.
There is more power in an organization. I am implying that what might be called the sounding-off approach adopted by Greenwald and the communities around him reduces his power and ours, sometimes even reducing Greenwald's power to speak about terms-of-service problems. The Intercept is one example here; they're better than Greenwald's current corporate alternatives in making their readers confident that they will never commit some of the abuses allowed by corporations' terms of service. I believe, with some hindsight, that the Intercept could be steered in a better direction (thus, the excessiveness of Greenwald's trashing of it). But in general, I don't want Greenwald to rationalize away the issues that perhaps require an organizational approach to deal with.
Still, Greenwald doesn't rationalize all that often. He's right that Substack and Rumble are more or less an okay deal given what's available on the Internet in 2021. Beneath the veneer of rationalization, he and the rest of us want to force change to the neoliberal landscape and not just find a niche in it for sounding off; clearly, this is an organizational matter. As is obvious from the way I've written this post, I continue to learn a lot from Greenwald.
Trump must not run. He must keep the GOP in his hands and promote those who can stop this mess which I do not thinkcanbe stopped. He must build a counter power and he cannot do that and hold office as well. He must find strong people to get in office at all levels. I do not think this is possible.
You mention Trump, but I hope that Rumble's role will not be too much about hosting people who built their audience elsewhere. When up-and-coming people get their start on platforms outside the tech monopolies, including but not limited to Rumble, it's worth promoting them.
Yes, it appears that Rumble claims an unlimited right to censor what they dislike. I will not defend bigotry, but I want to decide for myself which content is bigotry. I would hate to see Rumble crumble into a fake news outlet for the oligarchy, enforcing political correctness, like twitter and farcebook.
You're frightening the legacy media - means you're doing something right. I was 30 years a reporter and editor and daily newspapers medium and major metro. They've been promoting mediocrity for decades, and are now seeing the results. Rather than adapt, they deny and attack.
Somewhat off topic, an article in Wednesday’s NY POST discussed American Express indoctrinating their employees with CRT. Topics such as white oppression of people of color, white racism, you all know the whole race hustle. They invited that well known race hustler and racial extortionist Khalil Muhammad, great grandson of the founder of The Nation of Islam to teach all the racist whites at Am Ex which, by the way made 2.3billion in profit last quarter, about the racist and exploitative evils of capitalism. To make a long story short, I cancelled my AmEx card which I carried for 30 yrs. running up quiet a tab every month for my business. It’s my way of fighting this mindless indoctrination from woke corporate America. I hope that all you on here who have AmEx will consider doing so. Don’t just cancel. Tell them exactly why.
Thank you Glenn. I am so grateful for Substack and Rumble. You know, I don't remember voting for Pichai (google & youtube), Dorsey (Twitter), Zuckerberg (fb) or for that matter, Bezos (Wapo, and the man who silenced Parler)....Who are these people to dictate what we can and can't say and/or read? They have betrayed the implicit trust that we placed in them. We should all work hard to support the genuine free speech platforms in every way possible.
Look at it another way. They ave revealed so much to us. The fact that they are political cowards who are fabulously rich from it. They lack all integrity. Does that mean to get so rich that's what you have to become. And even worse you forgot Gates and Fauci who were and are far far worse. They have given us the signs that capitalism is a failed social/economic system and that our "so called democracy" is simply a MASK concealing the REAL. A SPECTACLE an emperor without any clothes on. Pomp and Circumstance.
I read recently that Epstein was a contact agent for CIA, and that is one of the reasons he was able to fly under cover for so long before this extreme perversions were finally revealed.
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/79783/from-spook-air-to-the-lolita-express-the-genesis-and-evolution-of-the-jeffrey-epsteinbill-clinton.html
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This is an amazing and urgently-needed initiative. Thank you Glenn for truly igniting a Promethean fire under the asses of the imperial mouth pieces known as the MSM, and their oligarchical overlords.
Hopefully many more will join you such that you can build a block that causes the MSM to crumble, as if before our eyes.
The modern Gods of Olympus think they are infallible. They believe humanity is just a bunch of blank slates incapable of making any genuine creative leap or axiomatic change. Their misanthropic and Malthusian view prevents them from really seeing it any other way. We are just blank slates; no ideas which they do not sanction will ever be able to take off.
If the population is demoralized, it won't fight back. If the perception is that nothing can be done and the fight is over, then people become willing to think (and do) the unthinkable. But if they believe there is still a chance, that the fight is not over, and that it can be won, then those in power have a serious problem on their hands.
As the poet Shelley once wrote in his poem "The Mask of Anarchy":
"Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number—
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you—
Ye are many—they are few."
Nice choice from Shelley.
Nice quotes from Shelley. Thanks for remindiing me.
David,
I love this article you have written:
Negative Capability: The Genius of Keats and Einstein
“To develop a complete mind: Study the science of art; Study the art of science. Learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.”
– Leonardo Da Vinci
https://davidgosselin.substack.com/p/negative-capability-the-genius-of
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"simultaneity of eternity"....Yes! I ponered this hard and long in my youth, finally coming to a revelation I express thus: [1≡∞] -- One IS Eternity! The single moment of the eternal NOW.
Certainly not as elegant as a poem by Yeats. But an internal revelation of thinking that actually led to a spiritual revelation in my mid twenties. Something that attends my spirit constantly.
Of course it is right now.
...........
It will be right now, anytime you choose to read this again.
Now is the moment of power.
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I second your point -- Greenwald is an accurate source of truth -- although I suppose the need to think for ourselves can lead to seeing exceptions to that.
I just joined Rumble because of you!
Glenn, you should really start using archive.is links instead of giving WaPo and others clicks. Plus it helps protect against their "stealth edits".
God bless you Glenn — best wishes for massive success with this project.
Just subscribed to you on Rumble!
Thank you Glenn. Your analysis of deceptive slander by Bezos/CIA newspaper WaPo is outstanding.
Poor AI technology WaPo "journalist", Drew Harwell, there got a massive CIA assistance to concoct "his" article.
In the US there is still left unexplored the huge role of UK in concocting the lies and propaganda, e.g., the Russia-gate hoax, including Scripal and Navalny "poisonings" and US+UK fabrications of OPCW reports on Syria -- fully exposed by top experts at OPCW. Corporate media in both US and UK is FULLY integrated in secret services gigantic apparatus of our War party oligarchs.
Note how, in desperation and sensing the danger, DNC/CIA handlers instructed their "progressive" media servants e.g., TYT's despicable Cenk & Ana to go on maximally unhinged attack on the Gray-zone high-integrity team and, especially, on its truly outstanding and high-integrity journalist Aaron Mate.
Free the publisher of a century and leading free speech advocate, Julian Assange, tortured by the UK and US establishment
Best wishes for this endeavor! I look forward to being a part of it!
Congrats. Keep up the good work. Eventually, the Washington Post will become the journalistic equivalent of Sears or Westinghouse some other industry leader that went by the wayside.
Cool, this is so great! I am listening to your first Rumble broadcast right now. Substack plus Rumble is a great combo for those of us who demand free speech.
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Are you being notified of new articles published by Greenwald? I use to get notification by e-mail until the last 2 published articles?
Yes Fran, I got the email notification this morning. I dunno what to tell you ???
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Thank you. I joined Rumble but will likely never upload anything. I just had my 73d birthday and believe it was my last. I don't have the strength or time to do so. You give me hope.
It leans "conservative"? I no longer know what that means. Conservatives and Liberals are little different in adherence to the principles of Western post-enlightenment liberalism. It's the loud-mouthed fringe on left and right that are illiberal.
Mark Levin lowered the boom on 19 Republican Senators with this warning
On Sean Hannity’s show, Mark Levin ripped the 19 Republicans who voted for Joe Biden’s $1.2 trillion spending bill for supporting tyranny.
The popular talk show host questioned how anyone could read a 2,700 page bill in just a matter of days.
Levin told the audience that “we choose liberty but the 19 Republicans in the Senate chose tyranny. Biden chooses tyranny and every single Democrat lockstep is for tyranny. How many people know what’s in that 2,700 page document that just passed today, with the 19 Republicans?”
Levin referred to these 19 RINOs – led by Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney – as the “Bernie Madoffs” of the Republican Party because they are con artists trying to fool voters into thinking they are fiscal conservatives while supporting Biden’s big-spending agenda, which is driving skyrocketing inflation.
https://patriotpulse.net/mark-levin-lowered-the-boom-on-19-republican-senators-with-this-warning/
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Mitch is now scared about the vote coming up
I don't see how Rumble is exactly a free speech platform after reading their Terms of Service (https://rumble.com/s/terms), the usual culprits are there:
"Rumble enables creators of Content to submit Content to the Rumble Service in accordance with the Agency Options set forth below. Under no circumstances shall the following be submitted to the Rumble Service:
…
7. Content or material that is grossly offensive to the online community, including but not limited to, racism, anti-semitism and hatred;
…
13. Any other Content or material that Rumble in its sole, unfettered, and arbitrary discretion, determines is undesirable on the Rumble Service.
…"
Everything is relative. Lawyers are going to make every site have broad discretion in who they can ban os they don't get sued, but they've been around for 8 years and the proof is in the pudding. Tons of people who can't get a platform anywhere else - including Trump - are there and free to say what they want while they get censored on almost every other platform.
Greenwald misleadingly says "Lawyers are going to make every site" put potentially anti-freedom clauses into its terms of service. First of all, lawyers don't compel their clients. But more importantly, legal clauses that are systematically abusive against the consumer aren't inevitable: libertarians and the left and the populist right all realize this. When nobody besides neoliberals likes the status quo that lets corporations set whatever terms they like, an opponent of neoliberalism shouldn't take that landscape for granted.
As many have pointed out, online services have been known to get worse over time, so you can't just appeal to past performance with Greenwald's phrase "the proof is in the pudding"; that feels a bit like rationalization or dodging things, just like when he tries to put the blame on how lawyers are accustomed to working. What Greenwald is omitting is that there are better things that a good online service could do even today. A good online service could take a more moderate approach by supplementing the usual oppressive legalese with a promise not to take certain actions if opposed by a consultation of people from the user base.
The reason why commenters like Tim and others are pressing Greenwald on this is because they sense, reasonably enough, that Greenwald may be more or less the individual who is in the best position to help with it. It seems that, to whatever extent Greenwald shares these concerns, he is choosing not to speak out about them, which I find interesting; he's kind of rationalizing the concerns away when others express them. He says "Everything is relative", and part of what lies behind that not-very-expressive phrase is a lack of power, feeling that even speaking might backfire against him.
There is more power in an organization. I am implying that what might be called the sounding-off approach adopted by Greenwald and the communities around him reduces his power and ours, sometimes even reducing Greenwald's power to speak about terms-of-service problems. The Intercept is one example here; they're better than Greenwald's current corporate alternatives in making their readers confident that they will never commit some of the abuses allowed by corporations' terms of service. I believe, with some hindsight, that the Intercept could be steered in a better direction (thus, the excessiveness of Greenwald's trashing of it). But in general, I don't want Greenwald to rationalize away the issues that perhaps require an organizational approach to deal with.
Still, Greenwald doesn't rationalize all that often. He's right that Substack and Rumble are more or less an okay deal given what's available on the Internet in 2021. Beneath the veneer of rationalization, he and the rest of us want to force change to the neoliberal landscape and not just find a niche in it for sounding off; clearly, this is an organizational matter. As is obvious from the way I've written this post, I continue to learn a lot from Greenwald.
Thanks for a detailed explanation
Yes, they've updated their terms of service to include hatred, anti-semitism etc. right at the time of Trump joining Rumble (June 27th):
ToS Before 06/27: https://archive.is/rNQ73
ToS 06/27: https://archive.is/3dbJo
Anyway that may not be the main concern in the light of Canada's recent track record on free speech.
Canada has become the swamp too. Worse in fact. But newer.
What is Trump saying these days? Anyone?
Thus far, he's using it broadcast all his rallies and TV interviews live but my understand is he may start using it for more soon.
I get updated from Trump.org
He sends messages through an email connection that I get.
And yes Trump's rallies are big...just like in 2020.
I am hoping for a Trump--DeSantis ticket in 2024.
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Trump must not run. He must keep the GOP in his hands and promote those who can stop this mess which I do not thinkcanbe stopped. He must build a counter power and he cannot do that and hold office as well. He must find strong people to get in office at all levels. I do not think this is possible.
Hard to trust someone that failed Assange and Snowden.
His lack of action was too much
I disagree Janet. I want Trump back as President ot the United States.
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OK. The governor of South Dakota. Trump has done what I wanted him to do. Now let him build the GOP from a better position and find better people.
Thanks GG
You mention Trump, but I hope that Rumble's role will not be too much about hosting people who built their audience elsewhere. When up-and-coming people get their start on platforms outside the tech monopolies, including but not limited to Rumble, it's worth promoting them.
Yes, it appears that Rumble claims an unlimited right to censor what they dislike. I will not defend bigotry, but I want to decide for myself which content is bigotry. I would hate to see Rumble crumble into a fake news outlet for the oligarchy, enforcing political correctness, like twitter and farcebook.
That's their out if they need it.
You're frightening the legacy media - means you're doing something right. I was 30 years a reporter and editor and daily newspapers medium and major metro. They've been promoting mediocrity for decades, and are now seeing the results. Rather than adapt, they deny and attack.
Somewhat off topic, an article in Wednesday’s NY POST discussed American Express indoctrinating their employees with CRT. Topics such as white oppression of people of color, white racism, you all know the whole race hustle. They invited that well known race hustler and racial extortionist Khalil Muhammad, great grandson of the founder of The Nation of Islam to teach all the racist whites at Am Ex which, by the way made 2.3billion in profit last quarter, about the racist and exploitative evils of capitalism. To make a long story short, I cancelled my AmEx card which I carried for 30 yrs. running up quiet a tab every month for my business. It’s my way of fighting this mindless indoctrination from woke corporate America. I hope that all you on here who have AmEx will consider doing so. Don’t just cancel. Tell them exactly why.
This stuff can't be taught. I remember having diversity training on a job.
It more like clumsily trying to change people's minds. For me, an avid anti racist I couldn't stand it.
Bravo!
Will do!!
Isn’t Tulsi a Russian agent? At least that is what I was told by our overlords.
Your move is extremely inspiring. Best of luck to you all!