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This piece is perfection. Seriously, if it were a person, I would marry it.

I’m a survivor of physical and sexual abuse, and no, you are not required to believe me, for the simple reason that you don’t know me and have no way to gauge my credibility. If you don’t believe me, I won’t call you a rape apologist, I promise. I won’t even feel unsafe. Or harassed. Or retraumatized.

The mantra “Believe Survivors” always begs the question: how do you know whether the person making an allegation is a survivor? What the mantra really means is “Believe every person who makes an allegation,” which is absurd on its face.

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More precisely, it's believe every person who make an allegation against someone we want to take out. The whole tragicomic Kavanagh/Ford charade laid bare a purely political endgame which had absolutely nothing to do with any actual concern for an alleged survivor. Ford was the most -- and most willing -- transparent of pawns.

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I usually use the signs as a gauge of true sentiment. When truckloads of pre-printed signs show up to anything, it is an attack by the outrage "industry" and we can be sure 99% of everything from that point is manufactured. I've never seen anyone in media explore this industry. They are content to believe they are witnessing true protest and popular anger as opposed to manufactured political tactics serving some unknown political force pushing far deeper, nefarious goals. We are gaslighted constantly from all sides and angles and few with any resources to explore it actually do. At this point,, when I see the pre-printed mass outrage machine show up, I tune out and ignore anything they have to say. I don't know who is behind it or why they are there, but I can definitely see the smokescreen.

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I’ve seen it go both ways. I’ve sent people use an allegation against someone they wouldn’t have supported anyway. But I’ve also seen people turn against those they’d previously supported, based on an allegation. Morse is a good example of the latter. There really isn’t a lot of consistent logic to it.

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I don't think these people actually have principles or even care about actual justice. They simply wanted to exploit Morse for being gay - until they figured out they he was "tainted". Then he abandoned him at the crucial time when he actually needed support and they moved on to their next pawn. I have seen this happen countless times with how minorities get used as pawns. H1B visas are a perfect example.

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I wholeheartedly agree. Many people on the left, like many people in religious institutions, want to feel good about themselves rather than do good for others. I've been on the left all my life, and I've seen people fixated on having the proper politics in order to feel right about who they are, so they support gay politicians like Morse -- until, as you say, he is "tainted," at which point they switch allegiances in order to feel good about who they are for rejecting a so-called sexual predator. That Morse is not a sexual predator matters nothing, because it's all about the self-image of the onlooker. It's not about changing anything at all.

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Well, what mystifies me is why it doesn’t occur to anyone to fight back, using any weapon from truth to lies. You can actually sue the ass off liars under certain circumstances. Or you can have someone step forth or accuse the accuser.

I really don’t know how long it will be before someone realizes they should be doing this on social media. Shame me on Twitter? I will absolutely make sure your darkest secrets will provide entertainment for millions.

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I think that, when an allegation = truth, innocent people who are accused know that the truth of the matter won't matter at all. So they don't fight back, because they wonder, why bother?

In any case, I personally would not want to retaliate by bringing to light other people's secrets. I don't think a race to the bottom is the way to go. Our cultural discourse is degraded enough.

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I think that the person accused can't believe that it is happening, that it's a mistake, that it will go away, he/she will wake up from a bad dream. They don't know how to fight back against those they thought were their supporters/mentors. Its as if they become catatonic. Kavanaugh initially looked like a deer in the headlights until Pres Trump told him he wasn't going to withdraw his nomination and told him to fight back.

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I think suing would be hard when - you are against the establishment AND when you are a public figure. Courts are corrupt - even more in Washington.

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Stringer spoke out against Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation using much of the same rhetorical devices now wielded by his opponents in the mayoral race. I get that Glenn is arguing for the broader ideal, but I have no sympathy for Scott Stringer. You reap what you sow. Here's the link for those that are interested...

https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/comptroller-stringer-statement-denouncing-confirmation-of-judge-kavanaugh/

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He also called on Andrew Cuomo to resign over such allegations. Let me make clear: I don't care about Stringer himself at all. As you say, it's the principle that matters here. This stuff is repulsive.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/08/scott-stringer-calls-on-cuomo-to-resign/

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Glenn it's so bad. And they're using the Asian hate PR campaign to make it worse.

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You know that the AAPI campaign started after Nate Silver published data showing Asians consistently support Democrats only if they feel victimized by racism, right?

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Recruiting "victims" is a DNC core competency.

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When victimhood becomes currency, there’s bound to be counterfeit. - old comment under Glenn’s video.

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That's a good comment.

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The biggest result when they eat their own is that they don't field their best team when it comes to domestic politics. People don't really need to wonder why we never have good Dem candidates for president, and we end up electing President not-Trump-not-Sanders.

But the second biggest result is that we suffer overall as a country for not having those candidates reach their potential, we really do.

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The funny thing is that the real racism against Asians comes from democrat policies.

Last year California voted to repeal the "anti discrimination" amendment. It passed the house and senate but fortunately FOR NOW failed in the election (43% still voted to repeal it). Just read who the supporters are and who opposes it:

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_16,_Repeal_Proposition_209_Affirmative_Action_Amendment_(2020)

Also Biden dropped the lawsuit against universities discriminating against asians and whites as soon as he took office:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/03/doj-drops-suit-accusing-yale-of-discriminating-against-white-asian-students.html

Also this "asian" lawsuit against universities also often lumps in south asian (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal etc) into the "asian" category as convenient because Indians and Pakistanis are also quite high achievers, so they get discriminated against too.

If people woke up to the fact that they are actually voting for racism while crying about racism, then the world would be a better place.

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And in the new Asian hate crime bill, all Senate Democrats "opposed an amendment that would prohibit federal funds from going to universities that discriminate against Asians in admissions and recruitment." It's impossible for every person/group to have the same outcome and the push towards it only causes discrimination. Plus, they wouldn't want to anger the Ivy Leagues...the pipeline of our nation's "leaders."

https://thepostmillennial.com/senate-dems-oppose-federal-funding-discriminate-asians

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But the Democrat's favorite tool of racial division, critical race theory, puts Asian people in oppressor status, so maybe they're going for both angles and seeing what works best for them....?? Either way, it's disgusting.

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The thing that is being hidden by the media is that way too many attacks on Asians are carried out by African/Americans. It is very weird since Asians don't seem to have much negative contact with that community. Other than being victims of crime.

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What's the right number of attacks on Asian Americans by black Americans?

Look, it's not weird. Or racially motivated. Black Americans commit a disproportionate amount of crimes in the U.S. relative to their percentage of the population. There were 150 or so hate crimes motivated by anti-Asian bias in 2019. Really, it's not a thing.

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One has to be careful. Hate crime data that measures race of victim and assailant say that black on asian hate crime is nowhere near the majority in a typical year. Right now the majority of what we see on the news is that, though.

But that could be real or it could be selection bias.

Tony Timpa once said "We only see black people killed by cops make it onto TV", but those events are 25% of the total, so Peyton Ham told me that clearly there is selection bias there.

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Only 25%? Seems to me it has been at least two years since we have heard about 100% of those (white cop killing Black resister/tragic-victim-of-mistake).

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No that's what the media is SELLING.

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I don't think so. Media is making the white man the boogeyman for that too.

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Yet they won't undo the injustice happening in the colleges today!

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The funny thing is that the real racism against Asians comes from democrat policies.

Last year California voted to repeal the "anti discrimination" amendment. It passed the house and senate but fortunately FOR NOW failed in the election (43% still voted to repeal it). Just read who the supporters are and who opposes it:

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_16,_Repeal_Proposition_209_Affirmative_Action_Amendment_(2020)

Also Biden dropped the lawsuit against universities discriminating against asians and whites as soon as he took office:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/03/doj-drops-suit-accusing-yale-of-discriminating-against-white-asian-students.html

Also this "asian" lawsuit against universities also often lumps in south asian (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal etc) into the "asian" category as convenient because Indians and Pakistanis are also quite high achievers, so they get discriminated against too.

If people woke up to the fact that they are actually voting for racism while crying about racism, then the world would be a better place.

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As someone who lives where Stringer's Community Free Democrats reign's supreme, I have no love for Stringer. Many of his positions may be considered "progressive" but the actions he has taken over the years to protect the power of the political club is totally regressive. I remember when one of their members took a position that George W. should be impeached and that the club's patron saint Jerrold Nadler should lead the fight. The club started a campaign against the person accusing her behind her back of being anti-Semitic. No more powerful attack against a person on the Upper West Side of Manhattan than that. Stringer was Nadler's hatchet man, and seemed to relish the role.

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If there are political cannibals in this country the left are surly them. No need to look further these morally bankrupt soulless power seekers are like sharks with blood in the water. They will at some point attack one an other when confronted with possible loss of their power or political position. Ever see them resort to racist slurs when a black person does not toe their liberal line. White leftists have NO qualms about utilizing the worst stereotypes and disgusting language as if those under attack were not human. Justice Thomas, Ben Carson, Senator Scott were all subject to the lefts pernicious smears and all without ANY pushback by mainstream Democrats or even the elected officials remained silent and said nothing. The left in this country is truly a danger to our Constitutional Republic since their actions and ambition will let little or nothing stand in the way of their quest for power. Even racist smears and name calling are acceptable. Gay bashing is just a small step for them.

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Good for you! What a hypocrite. He doesn't represent a progressive agenda which is what his position in the Kavanaugh case said to me, but like so many progressives these days they are totally opportunistic, and have no backbone. Their political careers come first.

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They're all a part of the DNC

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Thanks for that, I was feeling quite sorry for the guy, now I feel better. I'm reminded of the slayer queen Harris and her edited tweets, Diane Feinstein and her unvetted victims. No sympathy for Stringer.

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That's not the point at all. I don't even like Stringer

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Maybe it should be one of the reasons you don't like him, since what's worse in the political arena, or in your personal life, then a hypocrite.

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This reminds me of a funny Norm MacDonald joke. Patton Oswalt told Norm that the worst part of the Bill Cosby scandal was Cosby's hypocrisy. Norm disagreed. He thought it was the raping.

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And another one, so many, What about, Clinton, Samantha Power, and Rice who claimed that a genocide was taking place in Libya. They claimed they were going in their to save it's people. Yes, we're all heart. No genocide, of course, just all about toppling Gadhafi because we didn't like his political agenda. That's hypocrisy for you, and America is full of it and many are dead because of it.

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Well yes, but when politicians are hypocritical it's not quite the same. Madeleine Albright, former secretary of state under Bill Clinton said in 2016 if you were a woman and didn't vote for Hilary there was a special place in hell for you. She is the woman when asked if killing 500 thousand children due to the continuation of sanctions on Iraq was worth it. She said yes, oh maybe that's when she became Bill's secretary of state, because he liked what she had to say. Hypocrisy among politicians can be deadly. Not one person deadly, but hundreds and hundreds of dead.

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Uhh they're all hypocrites in Government.

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Absolutely, and this Covid pandemic has made that all the more obvious. Fortunately I didn't get sick from Covid 19, but politicians, and all the time in the world to listen to them made me really sick.

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Of all of the things that disgust me in our society right now, and there are many, this one is the absolute worst. Innocent until proven guilty has been a foundation of our free society since inception. That some people are so willing to condemn based on accusation alone shows us, among other things, that they neither understand nor appreciate our fragile democracy. I wonder how they will feel when it happens to them, their sons, their fathers, their spouses. Unfortunately, some people only learn from direct experience. God help us.

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Unfortunately, if you were to confront the people engaging in this sort of behavior they would (if they talked to you at all) claim that presumption of innocence is only required in a legal context, not a social context. You see a similar pattern with free speech: people try to defend private censorship by saying that the First Amendment only applies to the government, while ignoring the fact that the amendment is just a legal codification of the general principle of free speech. It's a poor defense in free speech cases and it's a poor defense here, but I'm sure that's the defense you would hear.

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It's shocking that so many are unable to grasp the values that generate cultural mores, virtues, and customary law. As you note, the principle of free speech is codified in law. The underlying value is truth. Without the free exchange of ideas humankind cannot arrive at truth. The same with the principle of due process, without which we cannot arrive at justice, which, in turn, requires ascertaining truth. The practices of free speech and due process are both manifestations of truth-seeking as the virtue by which we find truth. The scientific method is also a codification of truth seeking methods. Glenn is right. These people are without principle and seek only power. Truth is their enemy. Evil defined.

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Perfectly written, M. Mostly disagreeable! You just said the agreeable part of your personality, imo.

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Political correctness undermines free speech. Cancel culture undermines the presumption of innocence. Both tactics are embraced by people with stunted minds (leftists) and promoted by opportunists (neoliberals).

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“Political correctness: is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” ― Theodore Dalrymple

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Anthony Malcolm Daniels? Where did he write that, M. News, if you don't mind doing the research for me?

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Absolutely TRUE ! I subscribe to neither Party, but I would be even more comfortable if the "stunted minds" being referred to were described as "neoleftists" right along with your accurately stated "neoliberals". These words have almost *no meaning anymore, but as a 72 yr. old Vietnam Vet, I STILL love the LEFT

that, working from back home, *ENDED the Vietnam War.

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The meaning of the term "leftist" has changed since the '60s. The best way for the ruling class to destroy an ideology is to corrupt the movement and change the definition of its name, thereby erasing it from history - right out of 1984. That's what the enemies of the left have done. The word "left" is now a dirty word, it stands for censorship, McCarthyism, authoritarianism, persecution and corporate power. The ruling class owns that word, time to find or invent another one.

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I would offer up "progressive" except the ruling class is in the process of co-opting that term as well.

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"McCarthyism"? It doesn't fit with the others. Perhaps "Wilsonism" since Woodrow Wilson actually did the things you are talking about.

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McCarthyism is like cancel culture. Destroy someone's reputation and get them fired and blacklisted, not for breaking any law but for breaking some arbitrary moral or political code.

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But McCarthy didn't do any of that. ALL of his attacks were on government officials who had violated national security laws.

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Thanks for the update. The neoconservative will be broken-hearted if the neoleftist has appropriated McCarthyism ! So, in truth, I guess none of these labels have current meaning past their "fifteen minutes of fame".

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Stringer in this case is learning from direct experience. He did the same thing to Kavanaugh as well as Cuomo. He’s reaping what he sowed as the top comment mentions.

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So true. Karma is a bitch.

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I don’t know that he can lol. Not without breaking his own rules. Seeing as he gave us free will and what not. So... yeah🥵

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Only way to solve the problem is by shaming and exposing these hypocrites and double standards - regardless of the tribe. Get it to spread to as many people as one can.

Trump bombs Syria - expose it.

Biden bombs Syria - expose it.

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This reminded me of something Chesterton said about children: “We feel the same kind of obligation to these creatures that a deity might feel, had he created something that he could not understand.”

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I hadn't heard or read that. Thank you!

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They'll do the "right" thing and turn their family members in.

Naturally.

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And, unlike Amy, "they" hate wrong Moslems -- a la "Uyghurs good - Arab bad"

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Perhaps you describe 1 (one) of thousands (1000's) of such "gated communities."

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Yes, but 1) even archaic trolls have freedom of speech, and 20 at least he said, "...unlike Amy...," or was that itself sarcasm?

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May 1, 2021Liked by Glenn Greenwald

Hope you’re having a good weekend Glenn. You made mine. Not that it’s gonna be good news (haven’t read yet). It’s just good to hear from you 🥰

Oohhh... LOVING the independent journalists and others you’re bringing onboard btw. Intelligent and powerful voices we might never hear otherwise. Thank you deeply. In this chaotic time of absolute propaganda it is important/imperative we hear them. I only hope more and more will at least hear them out and become willing to scrutinize not just their work and how they got to their conclusion. But our own research and studies and how we got us to ours. Whatever they may be.

#FreeAssange #ForceTheVote

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This is a bit random, but for some reason reading this article and the comments here, your #FreeAssange notion just happened to remind me of an excellent series of articles I read years ago that barely received any attention, and I think would be of interest to a lot of people here. (Not sure why that just came to mind - the brain is weird!)

A psychology PhD., Dr. Lissa Johnson, wrote an excellently sourced and extensive 6-part series of investigative journalism on the Assange case and the US government's secret war against journalism, free speech, and WikiLeaks that began in 2008, going into how they use psychology and propaganda to manipulate our thought.

It's more relevant to today than ever with the continuation of that secret war that Greenwald has been covering, and how it illuminates use of propaganda and psychology as well as the way it has an effect on our brains: https://newmatilda.com/2019/02/23/psychology-getting-julian-assange-part-1-whats-torture-got/

It also goes into the torture of Julian Assange that had yet to be widely acknowledged by people such as the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Nils Melzer (who I must remind everyone could not get his findings posted by any mainstream media and ultimately had them published on the prestigious Medium.com at https://medium.com/@njmelzer/demasking-the-torture-of-julian-assange-b252ffdcb768 where he warns us of a "a precedent likely to seal the fate of Western democracy"), and the psychology of Russiagate.

Apologies if this comes across as spam/advertising - just an IMO very informative piece of journalism that was widely missed, as it was posted on an obscure independent Australian site.

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Great references, thanks!

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When ever I am discussing politics and politicians with my peer group (well educated, left leaning or libertarian professionals and businesspeople). The question comes up as to why none of us has ever considered running for office. The universal reaction is: Why would anyone with a brain want to enter a profession in which your competitors try to destroy you?

There are some noble people in the business of politics, but it largely attracts people who love power and will do whatever is required to get it and keep it.

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The more one thinks about the inherent problems with "democracy" as it is understood today, the more it looks like electing from eligible pool by random draw would be a much better option.

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Or, as William F. Buckley Jr said: "I Would Rather Be Governed By the First 2,000 People in the Telephone Directory than by the Harvard University Faculty."

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Gore Vidal still should have punched him in the face, but on this one Buckley was 100% right!

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I forget their age differences, but Buckley had him by at least 40 ponds and 3 inches. I'd bet on Buckley, mano-a-mano!

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I once knew someone in academics whose department needed a new chair-person. The first rule they agreed to was that anyone who applied was immediately disqualified by virtue of wanting the position. That approach might also be useful in politics.

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What are we going to do, bribe people to lead?

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Maybe we can drag the reluctant ones into positions of "leadership" kicking and screaming.

"But I don't WANT to be a politician!"

"That's why we need you."

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Yeah, there was a pretty funny indent a few weeks ago, about choosing our leaders randomly (you know, as a better way). I can just see a chosen citizen explaining, "But I thought I bought a lottery ticket!"

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Option: Read Dan Larimers ‘More Equal Animals’. It’s an interesting proposition.

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Thank you for reminding me. I've been meaning to read this!

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You can download it for free on the web site. 👍🏻

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100%. You receive a phone call out of the blue. They say “It’s your turn” and you show up, unblemished by previous contacts and ready to serve based on what YOU believe is correct.

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Sad. It was never meant to be like this. The Founders intended citizens to serve for a few years and then go home. It has become a profession, an industry, a way to become powerful and rich. My ancestors came here in the 1630s. Many were politicians (including a governor of NY) and even more fought in the revolution. I often think about how dismayed they would be if they came back to see how we have screwed everything up.

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“A republic, if you can keep it.”

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Precisely those that should have nothing to do with it!

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Which is why we must keep tight control of the Federal government. We've allowed them too much rein as of late.

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Would you prefer Ed Koch, Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerburg was running things? If you eliminate democratic government then that's what will happen, and some people want that. The problem with the federal government is that it has been corrupted by corporate lobbyists/bribery.

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Human nature is corrupt and greedy by default. It's impossible for a population of 350 million to not have a federal government with lots of those corrupt apples. So the only way to solve it is to reduce as much federal government power and make societal issues a local/city/state issue in that order. Federal government needs to get the f out of all societal issues - from abortion to gay marriage to telling you which light bulb you can use to whether you can smoke weed and menthol cigarettes. Their only job should be to make sure the rights of people aren't infringed and deal with foreign nations on trade, defence etc.

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Reduce the ability of corporations to bribe politicians. You can call it "lobbying", but its the exchange of cash for political favors. Its legal and it needs to be made illegal.

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Bribery is NOT legal, and sunshine exposes it. Money is speech. Your money is speech, too. You get to spend on this, not spend on that, give to a cause, or not. Your charities are corporations, too. You direct your political donations to lobbyists that lobby on your behalf. You don't like what a corporation is doing, then don't buy its products and services, and don't become a stockholder. You can't choose another Federal government.

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The problem is that the federal government has gotten too powerful so it can be bribed. The power is supposed to be in the states, where at least it is smaller so somewhat less tempting. We have allowed the feds to pervert our our system of government to centralize the power so all of the rats come out to feed on it.

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"gotten too powerful so it can be bribed."

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No, the problem is that bribery has been legalized. The Citizens United decision allows unlimited bribery. When a "lobbyist" gives a suitcase full of cash to a politician both of them should go to jail. Is that too complicated for ya?

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The problem with the Federal government is it is about 5 times too big, has about 10 times too much power, and, having spent our children's money, is now doubling down with our grandchildren's.

Where did I say "eliminate democratic government"?

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Lobbyists and power hungry politicians!!!!

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Ed Koch really wasn't that bad.

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My mistake. I thought there were three koch brothers.

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There were, one died. Now there are two.

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It takes integrity and sacrifice to run for office, there is no monetary reward for the honest politician. No "libertarian professional" would understand that concept.

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Well and accurately stated !

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Glen, I’m only halfway through but I was wondering if you were aware of the sickening coda to the Massachusetts story. Several official town Democratic groups circulated a petition protesting the homophobic smear campaign. At the meeting of the Cambridge democrats—this is an official party body, mind—one of the officials yelled “faggot” into the phone. This was recorded and posted online. I called relevant Boston Globe reporters multiple times asking why they weren’t on top of this story. Nothing happened to anyone involved.

Believe all women is a lie.

Me too is a lie.

Black Lives Matter is a lie.

They’re just cover stories. Democrats don’t believe any of them.

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Democrats use us as pawns and then abandon us when push comes to shove.

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How many of the accused mentioned in this great piece dared to question Brett Kavanaugh’s accusers? #karma

Sad

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This is the same crowd that asks us to believe that they "follow the science".

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And you cant make this shit up......

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-canada-sex-idUSKBN25T2Y9

Leading doctor in Canada recommends wearing a mask while having sex......LMAO

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They're late to the party. Leslie Nielsen advocated even more protection a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT0OPl4pTBc

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Uh....what's the rating on that, if you don't mind me asking? ;)

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It's youtube, Mr Timothy. They take care of us, babies.

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Without expressing any opinion on Stringer or any other specific case, this is simply the corporate wing of Team D calling the shots.

That is why Tara Reid's allegations against Joe Biden can be dismissed out of hand, and goodthink liberals can come up with excuse after excuse for Bill Clinton, but mere allegations are enough to cast enemies to the left and right into Outer Darkness.

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Funny how that works. Sort of like the evil "old white men." That's been hanging around forever. Those in the past who screamed it loudly are now the old white men. And they still, without irony, spout the same.

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FWIW, i read from an ex-con that prison officials encourage racial segregation and racial identity in prisons, because the prisoners are easier to control.

The last thing the officials want is for the prisoners to figure out that their racial identity is superficial at most, and that the prisoners have much more core interests in common.

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This is not a new method used by politicians. Back when Barack Obama was running for the Senate in Illinois his Republican opponent, Ryan, was beating him in the polls. So all of a sudden Ryan’s sealed divorce records were mysteriously released. They detailed episodes of him and his wife going to sex clubs while they were married. Poof! Ryan’s reputation was ruined and he eventually dropped out of the race, and the then unknown Barack Obama breezed into office. The left will do anything to gain power over their opponents.

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Agree with one caveat. To your statement "The left will do anything to gain power over their opponents." I would amend it to read: "POLITICIANS will do anything to gain power over their opponents."

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I disagree. I agree with your general statement that both parties are corrupt. But this sexual harassment stuff has always been coming from the democrats. Republicans are too incompetent and spineless to make up such stories.

Al Sharpton got a lot of fame from his fake rape and racial abuse hoax story of the black women in 1980s. He got a MSNBC job for starting a race war.

Then the high tech lynching of Justice Clarence Thomas happened in 1990s - with Biden involved too.

And then again the Justice Kavanaugh "gang rape" stuff.

The sexual harassment strategy is exclusive to Democrats. And I think it's because of them more easily being subject to emotional manipulation.

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I agree with that, but my own caveat would be that at present, one wing of the buzzard is better at the new way of doing it than the other one.

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I enjoy your wording, there, and presently I would tend to agree with you. The Left has *blown its CORK, but the Right has been out of whack for longer than that.

I have never been a member of any political party or group, so I think it is important to point out in these cases "A pox o' both your houses" as did Shakespeare, instead of leaving the impression that *any party is superior to the other. Rats feeding upon the Body Politic are just not *that different - one from the other. ;-D

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With ya 100%.

Once we all agree on whom is the moistened bint lobbing scimitars and remove them, perhaps we plebs can create a democratic republic!

Or autonomous collective.

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Not just "yes", but "HELL yes" !

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Business executives will do worse than politicians and without accountability or transparency. Power corrupts.

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Totally agree. I am certain that I am not the first person here to observe that *both parties are fully owned subsidiaries of the Global Corporations, and have been since at least the late 1800s. They were "bought and paid for" mostly by the American Corporations before that ! Global Corporations have *vastly more power than do mere politicians !

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"subsidiaries of the Global Corporations...since at least the late 1800s"

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The modern limited liability corporation did not exist when the founding fathers wrote their documents and Adam Smith wrote about the free market. Corporations slipped under the radar but they are an abomination to democracy, freedom and the free market. Corrupt capitalists are no different than corrupt communists - both corrupt. Wallstreet gets along very well with the CCP - that should raise a few eyebrows except that conservatives/republicans/capitalists are all wearing blinders.

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No. The corporation is the greatest tool ever invented. It has led to an acceleration in human progress by allowing individuals to pool capital to form enterprises that would never have been undertaken in 100s of years by spreading risk and protecting the individual from ruin.

That's not to say that a corporation cannot engage in improper, even illegal, behavior. We have laws and the sunshine of free-market journalism to protect us against illegality, just like for individuals.

You anti-everything-corporation types are barking up the wrong tree. It's almost like you are part of the mis-information, or obfuscation trickery of the Democrat party, and its captured media and IC.

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Yup, I lived through that in IL and his brother's children were in the child care center I administered. It was the ugliest and most disgraceful thing I'd seen done to a political opponent. And the media was complicit then too. Jack and Geri had an autistic child as well....imagine the stress in the family on top of that. The evil is real and the evil continues. Had they not done that to him, it could have changed Obama's entire political trajectory!

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I am perhaps a bit of a purist but I take offense at Greenwald's presumption that the people he's rightly critiquing are on the left. Especially when neoliberals like Clinton and Biden seem to be so considered, given they passed the test of an alleged expectation of evidence for charges against them. That tarnishing of "left" shows how far to the right the Overton Window has moved.

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It's hard to deny that groups like the Sunrise Movement and Working Families Party or Squad members like Rep. Bowman are the "left." If they're not, then the term refers to a vanishingly small number of people in the US.

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Right on. I actually appreciated the left-liberal distinction because it implies that they consider themselves liberal , which they do, but leaves room for those who understand the principles of liberalism and how diverse it is to go, "they may claim to be x, but they don't follow its principles".

The Kavanuagh incident was my final straw with whatever the left is. So much of exist they claim to stand for is fake. It is built on rocky foundations and no principles. The left is a grievance cult who uses it and aligns themselves with corporatists for power grabs. I want no part of it.

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It’s sad what the left has become.

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Kavanaugh is a guy with massive debts magically paid, and no one even investigated that. Instead, they hang their hats on accusations from 40 years ago, to please their cultural activist base. Why?

I will say: Kavanaugh did lie enough to be rejected, even if they accusation is false. We all know what the Devil’s Triangle is, Brett. This being the least important/most trivial of his fibs.

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He was vetted for the DC Circuit he served. He was re-vetted once Trump nominated him. Everything they've made you believe about the man is wrong, except, of course, that he's very conservative.

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Brett Kavanaugh committed blatant perjury during both of his high court hearings. He lied repeatedly. Evidence against Kavanaugh was withheld by Justice Roberts. Witnesses wanting to back up Christine Blaisy Ford were prevented from testifying. Lindsey Graham interrupted the prosecutor hired to represent The GOP from doing her job by having a hissy-fit when she got close to the truth revealing the probable date Kavanaugh that allegedly attacked Ford. The prosecutor was never seen again in the Senatorial, lightening round, judicial hearing for a lifetime position on the highest court in the land. Democrats did a crappy job of interrogating Kavanaugh, a hostile, biased candidate for judicial integrity. Kavanaugh was determined to be unfit for the position by the American Bar Association. Kavanaugh may be a conservative but he's a disreputable nominee, no matter what political position he represents.

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Christine Ford's lawyer Debra Katz admits on video that putting "an asterisk" next to Kavanaugh's name in case Kavanaugh attacked Roe v. Wade "is part of what motivated Christine."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/09/12/so-thats-why-christine-blaseys-fords-father-didnt-come-to-her-defense-against-kavanaugh-n2553006

And her own family including father didn't believe her.

And then it came out the "gang rape" girl and "backseat car rape" admitted to fabricating the rape story:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/3/another-kavanaugh-accuser-admits-fabricating-rape-/

Despite all these facts, you are still going on and on about this. Good lord. I sincerely hope one day you get a taste of your own medicine when you seek some promotion and a 35 year old rando claims you gang raped them. Then we will see how cool headed you are.

Ps I am not a fan of Kavanaugh but you people are bat shit crazy.

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Ok, CNN loyalist. I'll add this though: anyone who actually believes the GOP is so evil that it would allow the nomination of a SC judge who was a "serial rapist" (per a lawyer later jailed, and after his "witnesses" wouldn't be heard) is seriously deranged. I lean right. I don't like Banjo Boy because it's obvious he's just a tool for the left, but I would never consider him this fucking evil.

Grow up, tool.

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He is actually not so conservative at all. He used to vote 93% of the time with Merrick Garland. I was shocked.

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The Federalist Society vetted Brett Kavanaugh, not Trump. The Federalist Society has an agenda to place as many right wing conservative judges in place as possible. No consideration is given for the public good, justice, the environment or civil rights. Kavanaugh was vetted for the DC Circuit he served by the Federalist Society. He was selected by a Republican majority in the Senate. Thank you again Leo Leonard. Leo has selected the majority of our Catholic Supreme Court Justices and many other judges.

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Federalist Society has real criticisms as pointed out by Robert Barnes that they only pick establishment cronies. Neo cons types. And that’s why I don’t like Kavanaugh. But taking that a step further to claim he was guilty of stuff which these women admitted they fabricated stories about is crazy.

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Better the FS than Trump.

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Keep drinking that Koolaid

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Problem is that yes, they “are” the left. Supposedly. And we put them in the positions they’re in because they promised to represent us in terms of environment, justice and other people’s causes. They took our donations and hopes, promised they’d go to Washington and from inside they’d cause the changes we need them to.

But now that they’re in there, and this is where they ARE NOT “the left” far as the left I consider myself part of, they instead gaslight us and our demands (no longer hopes for change but unattainable and unreasonable demands) and protect the establishment, the Party, and all it’s corrupt officials in every way possible. No matter how disgusting and obvious. Tara Reade is a perfect example. Remember wtf AOC said when asked about Tara??!!! “Well.... she didn’t say she wouldn’t vote for Biden 😁😇”. I lost ALL respect for AOC that very minute. I struggle to think of worse things one woman can do to another in such a situation. I still can’t even believe it to this day. Disgusting!!! Talk about selfish! Talk about picking her career and money over EVERYTHING she supposedly stands for. Talk about making me feel like a complete idiot for donating to her. Me. A victim myself. She took my money and spit in my face😡

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Come on over to the dark side Daniela. I used to be in your shoes just few years ago. Now I am a black pilled liberal. Hate republicans for being incompetent and spineless. But hate democrats for being evil exploiting identity politics to destroy the fabric of society.

Once you realize that there will never ever be a single political party in a bloated country of 350 million people, you become awake and start viewing government as - just don’t let them make your life worse - because they surely aren’t going to make it better.

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Welcome to what I call practical libertarianism :-) I just want the smallest government possible because the people attracted to power are all jerks so I want to give them as little power as possible.

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Laura: "the people attracted to power are all jerks" - that's not entirely true. The problem is that the vast majority of voters only vote for the jerks (the others are "unelectable").

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I'm unsure sure which I find more surprising; that humans feel the need to create "leaders" to tell us all what to do, or that we consistently choose sociopaths for those "leadership" positions. I guess our monkey brain wants "leaders" who will carry out or darkest fantasies against our enemies that we would NEVER dream of doing ourselves, unless we were part of a mob, of course.

Lord Acton was right that absolute power corrupts absolutely. How much of the problem is our consistent pattern of placing sociopaths in charge and how much is the person in charge becoming a monster once they get their we will never know.

The only thing we can be sure of is the more positions we create for "leaders," the more monsters we will have running the system.

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Everyone is a jerk. Including all of you. Especially me. This is a feature, not a bug.

The folks attracted to power are just doing what they think they ought to be doing. Think of it like a mountain where the vast majority of us are a part of it. Impossible to tear down, right?

Unless you have a pickaxe. And patience.

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That’s what the people are told/trained/educated/programmed to do every day.

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That is at the core of the Founding Fathers approach to structuring the Constitution as they did.

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Big Government and big corporations are corrupt and evil.

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Go just a little further and want none at all.

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Why dream of something which will never be achieved?

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Boo, Anarchist!! (But don't worry, we can make a mutual-security pact!)

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Shrink democracy to the point where it can be drowned in a bathtub? If democracy is eliminated what do you think will replace it? A world run by the koch brothers would be a very sick place.

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In a perfect world there would be no need for governance. In a perfect world everyone would just do what’s best for the whole and we’d all be much better off. But, much as I wish and dream, that ain’t where we’re at!

In this world we do need organization and regulation aka governance. Or else all hell would break loose.

BUT you are absolutely right. Corrupt governance: bad. Even more of it: WORSE!

And how that’s better than having none at all doesn’t pass the test with me either. Quite frankly I feel that governments ARE the issue a lot of the time. It is VERY possible that left to their own devices communities’ and even entire nations’ Peoples would work together as opposed to against one another. For example there are typically citizens on both sides of every war who’s demands for ending warfare go ignored or forcibly, sometimes permanently, silenced. That tells me that it isn’t the majority of citizens who want to tear the world apart. It is their government officials. A lot of which in a less corrupt world would never be allowed any where near a managerial position, let alone leader of any nation and/or in charge of any military.

These governments use propaganda and fear mongering, violence and sanctions, you name it. Not just against others, but sometimes even their own People.

I’ll be honest with you; I don’t have an answer.

My only suggestion is that we stop being so ignorant and righteous as Americans. Seeing as as Americans we are a very LARGE part of the world’s current problems. What Americans corporations and the US gov have done in countless other countries, and are now bringing home, is criminal at very best. But we keep voting and supporting the same damn people. For 30, 40, 50 years.

Ughhh.... yeah, I don’t have an answer lol

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I certainly don’t feel like I belong anywhere, as is. It’s all BS and corruption. And for the first time ever I’m starting to understand where people are coming from when they say our lives are worse because of our government/ system, not better. We can come up with better systems, but we’re not allowed to by those who most benefit from the way things are.

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The US Government/system is the best ever devised. But it requires voters who are actually willing to do the somewhat hard work of, with a clear head, evaluating candidates for office. That's what is missing.

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We're all lost in the woods. Some of us just like it that way.

I hope you learn to love it, too.

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Idk about learning to love it lol. But I do hope to find joy while living in it again some day. Not to get too dark but, while we’re talking about being lost in the dark woods, I do find it scary, discouraging and depressing. All these wars. The images of kid’s corpses. The poverty. The millions loosing their last dime over a diagnosis and the millions more struggling to hold on to anything at slave wages. The overwhelming propaganda that has created a poisoned and venemous society. All the fu’king corruption. Ughhh!!!! It’s maddening! And I see no end in sight. So.... I’m trying to learn how to cope. How to live somewhere not with my scared ignorant head stuck in the sand nor covered in tin foil holding my last stand 😅🤷🏻‍♀️

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Oh, no, no, no! Don't advise ANYONE, let alone an excellent poster like M. Ferreira, to learn to love "being lost in the woods". I agree that some people seem to LIKE being ignorant, but never wish it on someone, imo.

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I might have shared this with you before: Walmart vs. The Morons:

https://youtu.be/oKFdAOKq4Lk

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Dude, if possible it would be awesome to connect with you over on Locals. I'm JosephC over there. josephc.locals.com for my own community but if theres a community that isn't typical social media mess to connect through I'd appreciate it!

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Join Viva And Barnes locals page. There’s a significant audience there and lots of good discussion!

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Republican voters overturned the Republican party establishment in 2016. Democrat voters couldn't do it in 2016 or 2020. Its because most leftists believe whatever corporate media tells them to believe.

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The DNC cheating during the primaries of 2016 and 2020 helped too :/

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Will they get away with even more (the trend, after all) in '22?

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They can’t keep us from protesting/kicking them out of office for ever.

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Daniela. I've been there too. This is what the left has become. I'm a gay liberal who grew up in the midwest detesting republicans. I grew up, realized how wrong I was in my understanding of what it meant to be liberal and saw massive shifts occur to those who called them liberals in the name of faux progress. I recognized that some voices on the right weren't "evil" like I was told they were. I won't join any party, but I still consider myself a liberal.

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The pulse night club shooting is what “red pilled” me. Somehow the evil homophobe trump supporters at The_Donald subreddit were raising awareness and even had pinned posts about donating blood to the gay victims. Other places on Reddit were removing any mention of donations. There was also a lot of censorship since the shooter was from the “protected” religion. That’s what got me to browse the_donald for the first time. I realized what we were told about Trump supported hating gays was nonsense. Several people would make posts on there asking what everyone’s opinion was on gay relationships and vast majority said they didn’t give a fuck. They only cared whether you love America or not. What consensual adults do in their bedrooms doesn’t matter to me. They only hate those who exploit it for identity politics.

You might enjoy Dave Rubin describing him and his husband meeting Trump family:

https://youtu.be/xkzJ4mKnr9A

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You mean that you had respect for AOC before that idiocy?

Bwahahahahahahaha...

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That's helpful bobsnsane. You must have thought long and hard before making it.

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As if it isn't obvious...

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You just enjoy a good laugh at your superior brilliance. Not a big whoop to me.

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That day was the limit of my ability to disagree and still respect though. I’m sure she had done plenty prior to that that I’m not aware of. And I’ve learned a lot more about her since that disgusts me. That’s just the straw the broke this camel’s back.

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Respect and disagreement are different things in my opinion. I can disagree with someone and still show them respect. I can see that someone is making a mistake and still have respect for their dignity. Hell, even if they’re sacrificing their dignity to make said mistake I still try to respect where they might be coming from. I feel strongly that only in unity do we have any hope. And to unite we must stop being so easily divisible. Sometimes that takes showing respect to those who might not even necessarily deserve it. Cause ultimately we’re on the same side and want the same things: peace and survival for us and some damn justice got our oppressors.

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Daniela, in what sense do you consider yourself "oppressed"?

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Financially of course: price of everything goes up, we’re close to making a trillionaire, yet wages are the same $7.50/hr for us. Access to medical care wise obviously; any bad diagnosis could make me homeless like so many others. As a female and victim of sexual crime who’ll never see justice and instead constantly watches rapists become our leaders and set the standards for justice. As a citizen in constant fear of vengeance by the enemies we create. As a poor citizen who gets treated differently than elite. As a voter in a completely corrupt and rigged system. As a Brazilian foreigner who’s watched what American corporations and gov have done to South and Central America. And am now watching them bring it home to us here.

In my personal life I’m ok. I run my own little business and I do ok and am not as affected as others around me. I do feel lucky. But that doesn’t mean I’m not affected. We are all one. At the end of the day if my neighbor can’t get paid properly he can’t afford to buy my services. And even more so... I can’t sleep at night knowing that my neighbor is struggling to eat. We should all think more that way I feel. Maybe we wouldn’t be where we are.

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If AOC wants respect, she can start by acting respectable.

She has DELIBERATELY misrepresented the facts to champion a fantasy narrative.

P S

The only thing oppressing you is your ignorance.

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You sure are putting on a clinic in the "hearts and minds" department, M. bobsnsane.

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Respect needs to be earned, except if you respect as an opportunist.

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The Congresswoman purports to have a degree in economics but doesn't know who John Maynard Keynes & Milton Friedman are?

Now, that's borderline “idiocy”...just sayin’...

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Fair point. However Amy is right. Daniela is already awake- let’s welcome her for the change and not mock the mistakes she made - I was in her shoes 5 years ago too.

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How do you know that? Cite the source. AOC is plenty smart and educated. Surely she knows who John Maynard Keynes & Milton Friedman are.

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I know plenty of people in the so-called political “right” who would agree with many progressives on a wide range of issues. My home town of Columbus has turned into a single party dominated environment. Republicans are creatures of legend that are vilified but not really seen in elective office here any more. And what do we get? A Democrat run government at the city and county level that acts like the monsters they described Republicans to be. Our police were using excessive force last summer against protesters and people are losing confidence in the police.

I am a person of the political right and I will proudly work with anyone who will be honest with me and will work with me to find the areas where we agree. I disavow the ugly name calling and reputation destroying tactics that keep the “ruling elite” in power.

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Daniela, the progressives (lefties) are extremely good at ginning up the emotion of victim-hood. Don't let them do that to you. If you keep telling yourself, or let anyone else tell you that you are a 'victim' you always will be. You are a person who had an incident(s) in your life but are stronger because of it, not weaker.

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Those who consider themselves victims of the system, are generally losers who were unable to meet even the minimum level of success in their life, and are now bitter and wish to placate themselves by wallowing in victimhood.

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Tell you what.... hope you don’t get a bad diagnosis and become yet another bitter, incapable loser.

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Did you just called every oppressed and disadvantaged black and brown person in this country a bitter loser??!! Did you just say every family that lost their homes in the corporate and gov created housing bubble is simply placating blame for their inability to meet minimum levels of success standards?! Are you suggesting that every disenfranchised voter in this country is not to be considered a victim of a corrupt system?!

Don’t you ever get tired of blaming those who perhaps have indeed lost purpose and will in their lives and succumbed to living on crumbs?! Why don’t you ever look upward and try to figure out wtf fell on their heads and pushed them down so far?! Was it slave wages? Perpetual poverty? Was it lack of education? Was it lack of health care? Was it lack of community involvement? Was it abuse? Was it because we were too busy making billionaires to give a damn what their desperate needs were?!

Who profits??? THAT is who you should be looking at.

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Don't know if term limits solve all of these ills, but members of both parties prioritize the perpetuation of their own power, all else be damned.

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30, 40, 50 damn years in public office? There is no sane democracy in which that should/would be allowed. It takes the public “servant” right out of our public “officials”. They no longer serve for us or any cause but rather for purpose of a career. And the longer their career the more connections and leverage they have. And the less connected to the needs of the People they become. And because of all their connections, propaganda, election fraud and lobbying being legal and even encouraged we can’t ever vote them the f out. It’s infuriating! Like look at what happened to Shahid Buttar when he tried to unseat Pelosi. They made up lies, the media at his ass up, the squad stood by complicit as god Bernie and others, and Peloai never even felt it get warm. Not even during #ForceTheVote.

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"...should/would be allowed..."

But, M. Daniela, it wouldn't be a democracy if you make those restrictions!

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I said a SANE democracy.

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Why would someone put herself in the position of telling the the public about such a humiliating experience for no reason? Tara Reade made a strong case for being sexually assaulted by her boss to warn people about his behavior. It's not like Joe Biden has kept his hands to himself in public appearances over the years. He still touches children when they are vulnerable in front of cameras.

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I don’t think anyone would ever speak of such humiliating shit unless they had VERY good reason to.

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I am one of what's left of the left. Democracts have just a few that really are "leftist" and they all succumb to their donors and move to appease. That is why Disappointingacrats (my preferred name for them) fight off the Green Party so hard. One would think they'd appreciate the company. They dip their toes in here and there and we citizen voters have to decide what is the lesser evil.

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It’s because of human nature.

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Problem is that leftists are generally against private ownership of property. So unless the person agrees to private ownership (i.e. capitalism and markets), they would still be part of the indecent left.

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As they have been doing to blacks for 50 years, and they are continually rewarded for it. So why should they stop? It's the right thing to do? Pfffffttttt... It's all about power.

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Daniela Ferreira, I think AOC said she believed Tara Reade. I don't remember her saying she would still vote for Biden. However, given the choice between Trump and Biden, what should she have said? The media buried the Reade story which had merit. I wish we could have voted for Bernie Sanders but establishment Democrats made sure that was not a possibility. There was someone else who said she believed Tara but would still vote for Biden. I don't think it was AOC.

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So that’s where Tara’s rights as a woman/citizen/ victim become meaningless to you huh?! At “but Trump!”.

Even after all the debunked lies. The hatred and fear steeped in propaganda is just that damn strong huh?!

I don’t even have anything else to say.

There’s needs to be a massive class action lawsuit against the media for DTS. All jokes aside!

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(DTS = TDS? Just checking.)

I think you over-react, M. Daniela. I think I disagree politically with M. Chris Jonsson, but he is accurate here, imo.

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Try coming from classical liberal conservatism. Neocons have redefined freedom as freedom to do what ever we want to you for your own good, strong national defense as screwing around and blowing stuff up in other countries without a plan, and capitalism as corporate monopolies in cahoots with government regulators.

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Right, freedom is fascism and the taint is all over the Biden administration. It's been such a long, exhausting year of utterly principle-free politics on the visible left that I've started to wonder if I was kidding myself all along.

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It's actually not too hard to tell the difference between neocons and neoliberals. See if someone says we are bombing another country in the name of "freedom," that person is a neocon, but if someone says we are bombing another country in the name of "human rights," that is a neoliberal. Now if someone says they are kissing corporate ass in the name of "free markets," that person is a neocon, but says they are kissing corporate ass in the name of "social justice" that person is a neoliberal. Now if you are a traditional liberal or conservative you might wonder how they have anything to with your principles or values. Not to worry! As far as they are concerned all of your principles and values are outdated and they are smarter, better, and more moral than you ever were. What evidence they base this on given how questionable many of their current policies and actions are is still a mystery.

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Best comment by far and 100% accurate.

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If I could buy you a bear for this outstanding comment, I would buy you a dinner too. Imma save this comment for future.

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