While AOC's revolutionary and subversive socialist gown generated buzz, the normalization of maskless elites attended to by faceless servants is grotesque.
Holy shit, this hit hard. I've been a subscriber since the day you left the Intercept and launched here, so I'm already right there with ya, but this really hits the nail on the head of an anxiety I can't seem to properly articulate. I live in Brooklyn and have many liberal friends who seem disturbingly OK with new selective enforcement of Covid protocols (BLM protests as valid vs the anti-lockdown people who literally couldn't feed their families...) and cheerful vilification of working class people with different politics.
At least Trump derangement folks were "deranged" and most left-leaning people I knew didn't really bite that bait. With Covid, the level of animosity for the "unclean" people has become unmatched and and creepily accepted by almost everyone. The fact that Obama and AOC types seem invulnerable to criticism is also mystifying. I'm worried. =(
What this stupidity has become is something like a zombie apocalypse movie. The unvaccinated or unmasked are never to be allowed to touch, interact or even live among the elites and "clean" members of the political and ruling class. Interacting with the zombies might cause them to become zombies themselves and be cast out from the inner circle. Modern slavery with a twist.
Working class has now been reduced to an inhuman THING to be feared and controlled lest they infect the AOC's and Nancys of this world. Wear your mask, stay inside and don't ever touch me. Like old India we now have our own untouchables.
Just do what you are told and don't ever expect to be considered as an individual after all you are just a zombie serving and working before being confined to your home when not serving. Soon vaccine passports will be the order of the day. Like East Germany carrying "papers" will be necessary to even travel within your own country. Flying on an airplane will require a mask, vaccination proof and a good reason for leaving your designated ZONE of residence.
The American Revolution was started over much less than the current abuses being heaped on us by our elected officials. Wonder if the DNA of our forefathers has been so weakened that all this has become the cost of living within or "modern" society.
The masks on the plebs do just that. They make us face less zombies there to serve. Otherwise we do not exist.
The behavior of the elite is becoming more and more sociopathic.
Let's hope and pray that there are more sane folks than brainwashed. Although in places like NY and Oregon where Im from, living among the Dem sheep makes it seem like there are more who love being Dem slaves than not.
Moved from NYC to fly about 3 years ago and it was like moving to another country. Love it here and the politics is not monolithic but reasonably sane and the communities diverse and very "get along go along." Can't believe I wasted so many years in that overhyped and mean City. Florida is just conducive to a good life for workers and retired individuals. Most individuals are cooperative and helpful and the politicians seem to pay attention to the wants and needs of the voters.
Not really idyllic just compared to NYC and that environment That may be said about many places NOT as large and dedicated to bureaucracies for running their very large and wasteful gov'ts. The problems in delivering services and responding to voters concerns goes up exponentially as gov't grows bigger and less accessible. I've lived in a few places since leaving NYC and all have been much better that the Big Apple. With Florida the weather is a plus outside the usual political considerations.
For me, the article didn't make a case for the great disparity between the haves and have nots when it comes to Covid mandates. It came across as gossiby, and even the pictures didn't make his case. That being said I am very well aware of the inequities that exist in America, like 1 % owns well over 40 percent of our country's wealth. I live in New York, and I know if you go into stores now, or are in close proximity to people you now have to wear a mask due to the delta variant. Those photographers were on top of each other, and they should be masked. I know two people who died of Covid and maybe that changes my perspective on things, although I don't harbor the hate so many feel for those who don't get vaccinated, or who have opposing points of view.
Im sorry you lost people you love to Covid but that is no excuse for what is being done now. This virus is NOT what we have been told. My family and I have had the Rona. We got it here again when my VAXXED Son in law brought it home from work. We all survived. 40 MILLION have caught and recovered from Covid. It is not an emergency, tens of thousands DIE every year from the FLU and because we did not die, or become seriously ill I began to QUESTION all the bullshit out of MSM and research in places away from MSM aka Indie media.
I learned that the PCR test is a fraud. It was never meant to be used to diagnose illness. You are free to research Kerry Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test. The CDC had the test running at between 35-42 cycles which guarantee 90% false positives. This was so the could justify their asymptomatic bullshit.
It was a brilliant plan as they convinced an entire country of healthy people that they were sick with ZERO symptoms. It is INSANE
The CDC recently announced that they will stop using THE PCR test in December because it can't tell the difference between the FLU and the Rona!!
This is OUTRAGEOUS behavior, but will not change as long as the majority can be scared into compliance and giving up their civil liberties
I understand your position, trust me. My brother died of AIDS, young, in the 1980's, and misinformation was wide spread. Someone recently informed me on this site that Fauci was highly responsible for putting forth the idea that AIDS might be easily contracted which turned out to be false. He related this information prematurely to the press and they ran with it, since fear sells. For AIDS patients in hospitals their lives were a living hell. Nurses, some doctors, aids, etc wouldn't even come into their rooms to attend their needs. Ambulette services became unavailable, and if you didn't have a supportive family that kept on top of things you very well may have died of neglect. It is a period in our history where many in the medical profession have a lot to feel ashamed of.
They convinced an entire world. And then in hospitals in the US they put them on respirators and gave them a deadly drug resdesivir (sp?) which had 2 clinical trials. One for Ebola where they all died and another for Covid where so many died they stopped the study. Fauci MANDATED it for all US bpeople admitted to hospital in US to receive it and be put on respirators. This stopped kidney function and they died. Mass murder as Fauci knew the murderous history of this drug.
What you say MIGHT be possible. Did COVID patients actually die as a result of the virus or was it malpractice on the part of the medical establishment? That might be impossible to determine since the profession has a very vested interest in propagating the story that COVID killed 100% of those admitted to and died hospitals. Like EVERY profession the medical bureaucrats act in concert to protect their turf and hide their incompetence.
Having Fauci in charge is the equivalent to having a pedophile running a kindergarten class because he is a certified teacher. Fauci has many, many conflicts of interest and connections to people responsible for funding this pandemic and yet he is still the face of the gov't's response and advises the POTUS. After all that is said and done why anyone would trust and follow gov't edicts is beyond reason. How any intelligent person is shocked by all this just shows the total lack of critical thinking skills in the general population. The political class itself is part of the problem with their blind faith in "experts" because they seem incapable of making their own determinations or inquires outside the bubble of D.C. bureaucracies and agencies.
Hi, I am a doctor. I take care of ICU patients on a regular basis. You are wrong. Over the last almost two years, it has become extremely clear in ways that are obviously quantifiable and apparently anyone with an actual job in healthcare that COVID-19 is a more virulent disease than influenza. This means its causes more severe disease in infected people than influenza does, both in terms of the % of patients who die from the disease, as well as the severity of the symptoms of patients who survive, and the overall burden of chronic sequelae (long term health consequences) associated with infection. This information is quite readily available on free to access medical journals indexed on Pubmed. These claims are not remotely controversial in the medical sphere. That you make such claims in the face of clear, abundant evidence to the contrary is truly confusing to me.
For me the 'have' vs. 'have not' was clearly exhibited with the celebrities not being masked. Masks are supposed to protect others, and there are certainly handlers that were close enough that the celebrity could be transmitting to the handler, even if the celeb was vaxxed. It just doesn't hang together when the powers that be are directing us vaxxed plebes to mask up too, but not doing the same for the elites. I, too, am visually struck by this, I am now seeing these pictures all over the place - and the minute I see the mask I think 'servant', when in the past I wouldn't have noticed the support staff as servants, I would have seen them as just part of the event.
When I mask up I see it as I'm protecting me. I know that even though vaccinated I can pick up the delta variant from someone, and if I should harbor it and I come into contact with someone not vaccinated I could transmit it to them and give them Covid. I saw the photographers, so close together as protecting themselves and each other. Those that waited the tables at Pelosi's affair were protecting themselves. Even as a kid I never saw the rich, or the famous as somehow special, in fact a whole lot of famous people throughout history were bas*tards, and they do die like everyone else.
But that's a mistake. If one assumes that masks are to protect the wearer (as all who object to masking as an infringement of their freedom do) then the arguments that masks are useless (or so close to useless that not wearing them is a rational risk assessment given the discomfort the cause) are valid. As the signs at my university say "My mask protects you, your mask protects me." The whole point is that masks impede the circulation of exhaled droplets that carry the virus from the wearer if the wearer is infected (whether asympotomatic or pre-symptomatic or even with light symptoms mistaken for a cold or allergies).
In terms of Pelosi and Newsom's get togethers they were called out on that, and the double standard.To tell you the truth if I had to come in contact with all those maskless people I would want a mask, but what would bother me is having to serve them.
The Newsom and Pelosi clips, yea they are unmasked and those serving them are, double standard, but they have been called out on that. The other clips, well the photographers are on top of each other and should be masked for their own protection. At the event with AOC the patrons that attended this event did maintain some distance. I'm not defending them, trust me. Look at it this way, they were protected from those slime balls who were unmasked and may have Covid. I have never, not even as a kid, been impressed by the rich and the famous. I was raised by a mother who was a socialist, so believe it.
you are the low-caste about whom glenn writes. it's too bad you don't recognize yourself in this very clearly drawn story, and in the innumerable photos everywhere all the time. enjoy your servitude. AOC will not be attending your thanksgiving tofurkey mask-required sad-fest this year, sorry.
I am not low class. or of low caste, and If Mr. Greenwald believes that he's an ass, and I serve no one. If AOC turns up at my Thanksgiving tofurkey I'll kick her ass out.
I just have to ask you a few questions. How old were the people you knew who died? Were they diabetic, obese, on meds, etc? And I would like to know if they ate gluten and GMO FREE and I am betting not. Were they ever smokers or daily drinkers and did they work out most days? All these things have to bee considered when making a conclusion. Not just FEELINGS!
One was a friend's mother who was overweight and did have a number of medical conditions including left sided heart failure. She was in her 80's, Also someone we knew, in his 60's, who had health issues related to working in the area where the Twin Towers went down. Neither one was young and healthy, but if it weren't for Covid they still would be here. My friend's father also contracted Covid, also in his 80's, but no underlying heart or lung issues and he survived.
I am just a critical ex researcher. Variables are important. And actually they didn't die of Covid, they died of their health issues. Too soon perhaps as our BIg Pharma can extend lives for a price these days. The regular flu would probably have done the same.
I guess I am just wanting to explain to people that making judgments based on ignoring variables tends to restrict your thinking. Do it often and youb just become one of those persons who does not think clearly. They always seem to not like me either.
Masking in a closed space makes sense if someone present is in a high risk group. Masks are to impede the circulation of exhaled droplets that carry the virus. They protect others from the wearer, not the wearer from others. That's part of the dynamics Glenn is highlighting: the bien pensant elite are protected from the hoi polloi by the staff wearing masks while they, themselves, apply the same reasoning that the vilified "anti-maskers" use -- if it doesn't protect me, I'm not going to wear it. These performatively sensitive elites don't care a whit if the working class folk who staff their galas catch the disease from them, after all, they're just little people, deplorables, who probably voted for Trump.
Relocating is easier now than it ever has been, I think. I just set up job search engines to find jobs in my field in SD, and when a job popped up that I was qualified for, I applied. The first set of interviews was via Zoom, and they flew me in for the second round (though he gave me the option, if I had been familiar with the area, we could have done the second round through Zoom as well). Buying or even renting a house is similar. We made an offer on a house that we had only seen via video tour, but when I saw it in person, no surprises (so far). There is not much inventory (at least in Western SD), but the homes here are still somewhat less expensive than in many other places. It's an undertaking, for sure, but well worth it, I think.
FL is okay. I was in FL several times this year and many hotels and retail establishments were requiring masks, had substantially reduced services, and it did not feel much different to me than other parts of the country.
Why would it be important to me if you believed me or not. They weren't high officials in 1990. My gf was a beautician in Singapore whose mother was born on Hainen Island and ran with her husband to Malasia away from the Japanese. She let her daughter but took her son. My friend was born in Singapore after her mother ran from the Japanese again coming into Melasia. In Singapore when they came there was nowhere else to go. Her sister reamined in China and her husband was in charge of the island as an "enterprise zone." He may have been a big deal but did not come across as one at all. Some children threw stones at me on a walk I made because I had blue eyes and they had been warned against "blue eyes!" There's more to the story but not for you.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
Yes. China wears the mask of communism concealing the REAL of capitalism. The US wears the mask of democracy concealing the REAL of totalitarianism that used to be creeping totalitarianism but now is running amok.
Americans have a lot to lose, materially speaking. As such, they are afraid to do anything that could jeopardize their comfortable living, their cushy job at their woke employers, their SUV and their kids soccer career. They are also terrified to be socially ostracized. In summary, Americans are largely cowards. And so it goes.
They are today. And I know the reason. The design of the country was unique... based on libertarian paternalism. It is now a socialist matriarchy. The former was determined to be free and to pursue self interests to advance. We were the risk-takers. But the matriarchy abhors risk. It pursues the illusion of perfection... which then always becomes the enemy of the good.
Yes, I would lose the "paternal/maternal" label/reference, but M. J Boone is otherwise spot-on. You, M. Karen, are just as eloquent, imo (although some will not understand that you mean "human" when you write "men," and it would sound so less eloquent if you had used the former!), in describing the vicious cycle from which we Classical Liberals (i.e. Capitalists, despite its continued mis-attribution even here, in this otherwise wisdom filled forum) forever desire and deserve exit.
In two of the pictures a slew of photographers are almost on top of each other, and under such circumstances it is mandated that due to the delta variant even vaccinated people should wear masks. In the clip with AOC at the Met the people in attendance seem to maintain some distance between each other, and no one in the video clip is wearing a mask. In the Jennifer Hudson clip even if no one was wearing a mask it smacks of royalty. As far as Pelosi and Newsom are concerned they have been called out on their behavior and the double standards they impose.
Gossip was a good word in reference to this article. Don't misunderstand, I think very highly of Greenwald and appreciate the work he does, but not this article. It came across as gossiby, with relatively little meaning, nor did it substantiate the very significant differences in the lives of the haves and the have nots in America.
That's like complaining that Tom Wolfe was gossipy - the tone was intentional and for effect; Glenn was embracing THEIR way of talking to illustrate the utter hypocrisy of their claims of moral superiority.
I'm not complaining about Greenwald, just this article. The pictures did not validate what he was saying. Those slew of photographers on top of each other should be wearing masks and that Jennifer Hudson photo, well, even if her entourage weren't wearing masks they would look quite, no very subservient, and Pelosi and Newsom were called out on their hypocrisy. I grew up in Manhattan for a while and from an early age became aware of the disparity of wealth in this world, not to mention my mother was a socialist.
As generations roll on the past is forgotten. No need to resort to genetics. Few are courageous at all anymore. And men turn on women, and women turn on men and I dont mean sexually.
To clarify the message, replace "unvaccinated," "anti-vax," "anti-government," "insurrectionists," with "infidel." To get a taste of late 1930s Germany replace with "undesirables" and "Jews." We are witnessing scapegoating going to scale as the entire Western economy teeters on collapse, supply lines die, resources dwindle, and the ruling classes freak at their looming irrelevance. The know they will soon have no value--and this is good news for the rest of us who remain firmly grounded in a three-dimensional world.
Your comparison is bullshit. Most of the freedumb luvin’
antivaxxers(many “Christians”) are the same knobs that followed America-Firster Chucky Lindberg, Father Coughlin, and the like, in blocking Jewish immigration(escape) before and during WW2.
I don't believe most are "anti-vaxxers", they are fine with vaccines that have been fully tested and peer reviewed and have a history of efficacy (mumps, flu, chicken pox etc.) This particular vaccine is novel, has not been rigorously tested. It also has certain side effects that are riskier to certain people than COVID itself. Also, why mention Christians? The point here is to not vilify people or groups of people. BTW, FDR had no interest in rescuing European Jews so you could lay the blame on the dem party prog left in power at the time. For what it's worth.
I think we all ought to start wearing YELLOW STARS! That would have been too close to the bone for AOC. Messing up a designer's dress was cool. For her. Not me.
Indeed! I agree. Notice how the. Elite love to weaponized the word unvaxxed and then DEHUMANIZE us without ONCE saying WHY we might be hesitant. They don't want anyone to know.
History will be VERY unkind to those who are committing crimes against humanity and violating the Nuremberg code of informed consent
Why do you assume those who don't want the jab are antivaxxers? This irritated the shit out of me. It is better to assume that we are NOT anti vax on the whole but rather THIS vaccine t hat has killed a RECORD 14,000 people and permanently disabled 600,000 MORE.
9,000 CHILDREN have been permanently disabled, 14 are DEAD and 500 have MYOCARDITIS
The difference between rabid pro vaxxer and US anti THIS vaccine is that we are CRITICAL thinkers and have DONE our homework while the pro vax crowd is busy listening to CORRUPT AND HIGHLY COMPROMISED health officials and politicians in BED with Big pharma. There is no better definition of FASCISM than the Democratic party and their EUGENICS program funded By BILL GATES, A EUGENICIST
After surviving a serious bout of cancer last year, I DO NOT wish to play Russian Roulette with MY life, so that a few brainwashed Dem voters feel safe.
Thank you. I got the flu vaccine last year—like I usually do. My children are all up to date on their vaccinations. But this vaccine? No way. Those who have just a basic understanding of science can see that large swaths of the population should not be taking it.
I have a friend whose 12 year old Son got the jab. I literally BEGGGED her not to do it but she wouldn't listen. He wound up with MYOCARDITIS. I love how MSM has down played this infection. But it is extremely dangerous and has killed 14 kids already and 500 more have this illness. My friends son has to take 6 different meds for six months. He can have ZERO physical activity and will be at risk for arrhythmia heart attack and stroke the rest of his life..
My friend got a HUGE wake up call as the doctors REFUSED to acknowledge that it was the jab that did this. I can't tell you how many this is happening too. Its as if doctors are onboard this scam. She finally found a doc to treat her Son RELUCTANTLY. She had also endured emotional and verbal abuse from former Dem friends if hers when she shared what happened to her Son.
You are so wise to think of your children, Brian. I mean that from my heart.
We’ll, your friend’s son is doing better than my cousin’s friend: he’s dead. Died of a heart attack two days after his second dose. I don’t know how often people in their 20’s die of a heart attack, but I suppose it *could* have been a coincidence.
I have Charcot Marie Foote syndrome which is not well understood. It has neuropathic associated problems with it that I have discovered on my own. I suspect Eric Clapton is afflicted in some way as the vaccine paralyzed his hands and feet. so no more guitar! However it did go away. But I connected what happened to me and someone else I heard about so do not want to take that chance. I will kill myself first. This vac does stir up latent genetic DNA that can surface and really hurt you. So I think if you are seriously afraid you may not know why but pay attention to the feeling. Something in you is warning you.
I’m pretty sure all those “free dumb living” people you speak of from WWII have long since passed from this earth. I’m not sure you can prove any of those people way back in the 40’s we’re “antivaxxers” either. Basically your statement makes no sense, and has no relevance to anything. You sound like a typical leftist hack thumbing your nose at people that could possibly have a different worldview than you. You actually are a perfect representation what greenwald spoke of in this piece. A liberal hack.
Well actually there were a lot of anti vaccers then. My mother - who was born in 1899 - blamed her little brothers death on a Small Pox vaccination. She wasnt going to let me go to Kindergarten because I had to get vaccinated for Small Pox in order to go. All the kids came down the back alley after the first day. I was outside wondering where everyone was. They had been to SCHOOL Band I wanted so much to go! Then my mom told me why." (actually she lied and said because I was so little she was keeping me home another year.)n "But," I said, "Beverly, my best friend was born on the same day I was so I am old enough." She never could stand against my demands so I got to go a week later after my shot. So I entered late and so I watched intently what the others were doing as they had already learned and I wanted to be competent. My future husband was in my kindergarten!
I had the Rona too. My whole family had it and then my VAXXED son in law?brought home the ""DELTA" variant.
What it really is is a COLD. That's what Corona viruses are.
MSM makes cases sound so many and so scary.
It's funny, liberals will screech at you all day about how many are dead from the scary cold. But ask them how many are dead from the spike protein jab and they completely freak out lol!
“ The point is natural immunity is many times more effective than vaccination…” If one survives the illness.
I have had 3 friends die of covid. None from “the flu”.
Covid is the ONLY vaccination, other than for shingles, that I’ve had in 72 years(other than shots wile in the military). I filtered the info I’ve searched out, and decided that this one is really nasty.
That would be a clever comeback if NBC and the Wall Street Journal hadn't both done deep dives into the true demographic breakdown of those who have not gotten vaccinated (it's not who you think, or at least wish, it was). And, no, I'm not going to post links - even you should be able to figure out how to use a search engine.
Hate to tellyah, but the present Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, Chrystia Freeland, a liberal by the way, is a granddaughter of a scumbag Ukrainian Nazi. So, yeah…the spawn is still around.
Joycer Carol Oates has written a novel about one family. It is excellent. The Gravediggerds Daughter. I once had a 3rd grader in my class whose mom had just been admitted to the mental hospital as school started. She had tried to commit suicide. She told me later that she had been on the last Jewish ship out of Europe -nGermany was it? - and had spent the rest of her life asking herself "Why me? Why was I saved?" Heavy.
You sir just want revenge don't you? You've been a partisan hack for over 70 years and now you get to watch your enemy squirm. You're loving this tyranny. You're the good German.
They have already learned about the bad effects from the shots. News travels fast in the black community. They tell each other the new benefits, where to get this or that, THEY SHARE! They aolready know about bad efects of this SO-CALLED VACCINATION!
can you link to where you’re getting your numbers from?
i’ve just learned tonight that the fda approved vaccine Cominarty is different than the version under the EUA, though the differences aren’t enumerated.
The "left" now is being hit with hypocrisy that theyb must find a way to defend for themselves. so now defense mechanisms are coming into play and they do screw it all up.
Have you read 'Woke Inc.' by Vivek Ramaswamy? He addresses a lot of this in his book, as to how financial/business intersect with our culture. It's easy to read and understand. (Finance & business are not my strong suits). Give it a tumble.
Yes wear a mask and pin a YELLOW STAR on your T-Shirt. Better yet screen a yellow star on it. Together they make a statement. Now if AOC had worn one to the Met Ball THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A - OK for AOC to do! Naw, she's not enough of a PARRHESIASTES to do THAT!
It is just insanity becoming normal and now institutionalized. AOC is already outdated. A few years ago what she did would have been revolutionary. Today it is not. SPEED is the new theoretical perception to be coupled with rationality and reason which are disappearing into the void below.
THANK FUCKING GOD I don’t live in a big city. Especially not one like NY. Dude, I’ve been horrified hearing and watching. Idk what all you got going onor on or owe or what sills or whatever but if I were in any big city like that I would sell everything and run! As far into the country as possible. Things are still mostly normal here. Kinda. Funny enough the state liquor store will not sell you poisonous liquor if you don’t wear a mask. But thankfully in most other places, except like hospitals n banks n gov buildings etc, there’s a pretty good mix of masked n not. I would like to see a lot less ppl make because it just illustrates how poorly educated and ignorant a lot of us are. But still, definitely better than where you’ve been for almost a couple years. I can’t even imagine. I’m imagining you’re in one of the city burrows btw, in the thick of it.
And tax the lower-upper class. The mega-wealthy will always be able to plan around these taxes. This will be welfare for tax lawyers and accountants; there will be a whole new category of people who need to make aggressive tax avoidance plans to avoid income taxation of their capital gains on their death.
The Estate and Gift Tax is separate from the Income Tax. Right now, you really don't have to worry about fed taxation (Estate and Gift Tax) of your estate on your death if it is under $10 million (there is an exemption for estates up to $11.6 million but you have to start worrying about reporting, compliance, and possible enforcement as you estate gets close to that amount). Many states tax estates at a lower level. But under Biden's proposed plan, when you die, your estate will have to pay INCOME TAX on the property in your estate if your estate is over $1 million (married couples over $2 million). This means that tens of thousands (perhaps millions) of moderately well off people will have to worry about their heirs getting a hefty income tax bill.
it means that when family farms are passed on, most likely, it will result in them being sold to cover the tax bill (thus incurring more taxes), and guess who's going to be buying... blackrock. there's around 35 trillion dollars in inheritance destined to be transferred to millenials over the next couple decades. it's no coincidence democrats are seeding these kids to vote away their parents inheritance.
You would not believe the number of younger people who voted Biden and potentially voted away their future prosperity should this legislation pass. Best to get on the horn to Manchin and Sinema, the only two Dems that can stop it.
The real issue is that Biden campaigned on doing this, and most had no idea prior to voting or even know now.
And Blackrock will never "die" and have to pay these taxes, only farmers, their families and other small business owners. Whoever Blackrock's lobbyist is apparently is doing an amazing job getting Biden to do everything possible to hurt small businesses and benefit very, very big business. Related this the Dems who want to "tax the rich" yet are trying to give a tax break to the rich by getting rid of the $10K state and local tax deduction limit. People at that level of SALT taxes are basically rich, or darn close to it. Yet they are spending their time trying to figure out how to give them a tax break. You can't make this stuff up.
Bill Gates is the number one owner if farm land in the US..
You know, the eugenicist who wants all the slaves vaxxed, his depopulation plans realized and for the rest of us to NEVER eat meat but learn to love plant based meats (filled with nasty chemicals) and BUGS.
In any case, this is easily taken care of by exempting farms under certain conditions. They were, in the past, and might still be. Incidentally, it brings up an awkward point: farmers are capitalists - even though a family-operated farm is worker owned and therefore an example of socialism. Categories get complicated. (Full disclosure: I grew up with a "family farm" my family hadn't operated in 3 generations. It was ultimately sold to a corporation. Nobody was real happy with that.)
Actually there are. Some of them quite large, some more a hobby with the farmer also having a "day job" in a nearby town or city. (I write from Kansas.)
Which "industry"? Do you work in industrial agriculture, or in tax evasion?
In any case, you're wrong in saying that the talking point is "describing reality". The talking point is, in fact, designed to keep people from seeing the optimal solution, which (as several of us have pointed out) is to tax heavy inherited wealth while exempting family farms.
I worked on a family farm, and now I work to sell seed to farmers. The taxation you propose is what has destroyed small businesses (including family farms), and is supported by the corporations you lament. However, this isn't just for farms, you would prefer AOC, Donald Trump, and Biden to get the family restaurant, the family house, and whatever family business, rather than allow the children to keep their parents possessions and businesses running. Shame on you.
And smallish family owned businesses as well. It isn't only farms that get destroyed by this. People will try to find ways around this. Any number of people will be hurt by this. There will be no point in working hard to help provide for your children. That will cripple American ingenuity and innovation. These people have a complete inability to think in a logical, rational way, and apparently never ask "What happens next?" when they propose these things.
Oh, but they won't do that. The current Left hates small business: they want everyone to be employed by oligarchs so they can be the protectors of the populace, rather than impediments to people getting ahead by their own efforts.
That was made clear during the pandemic. This would just help hasten the monopolization of business, and eliminate competition and innovation. The Deep State has been helping to enable the big corporations for years.
Yeah, that "family farm" stuff is largely a fake talking point from lobbyists for a small elite that fears the estate tax and wants to protect their hereditary class privilege.
Exactly this. This will literally eliminate class mobility in this country, probably exactly what they want. I work with this class of people, most of us came from upper lower and lower middle class, played by the rules, studied and worked hard, went into growing fields like tech and started to amass a small amount of family wealth (this spans multiple races too). And now it is all gone. People are starting to wake up, but tragically it is too late.
It's awfully ironically ironic. Leftists democrats complain that blacks and minorities should get reparations for missing the opportunities afforded whites throughout history, while simultaneously voting to keep those benefits from being passed on to their children. It is exactly what they want. Leftists don't educate, inspire, or persuade, they humiliate. This way, truth doesn't actually matter, the only thing that matters is that *you* shut up when *they* say you're wrong. It's a communist propaganda technique.
And that is the only solution if the progressives want to fund their welfare wish list, which can't be done by taxing the rich and corporations alone. Scandinavia does provide many more welfare benefits to its citizens; but their citizens are taxed far more than Americans.
Basically 50% of Americans don't pay any taxes. That isn't sustainable for a growing welfare society.
50 percent of Americans do not 'pay any taxes". They don' t pay federal income tax. They still pay sales tax (a regressive tax on the poor Btw) and payroll taxes. They are also possibly paying property taxes or other government fees.
It's true that our tax system is extremely dumb and unsustainable, but let's not make up stuff about it.
There is no federal sales tax. Payroll taxes generate eligibility for future SSI payments and people that don't reach the AGI threshold for payroll taxes are (unless they die early) net receivers of SSI payments. He's right. 50% of Americans largely do not pay federal income tax or fund federal government services, though they contribute a portion of the funds they will themselves receive back in SSI payments.
He didn't say "federal taxes", and if he had I would not have replied. He said "50% of Americans don't pay any taxes." It's right there in the post I'm replying to. Which is manifestly untrue, and hence the clarification.
Absolutely not true. If you are a w-2 wage earning married couple living in a major metro area after 20 years of working in a corporate job or medical/legal profession, it's not that hard to hit $450k / year. Outside of a small mortgage interest and charitable deductions, there are NO loopholes. And god forbid your company give you stock options as part of your compensation, I can't tell you how many people I know that were wiped out financially paying AMT on exercised stock options that were later on worth nothing due to market volatility.
They also receive money for nothing via earned income, child tax and other credits. Many of those not paying income tax receive many other benefits like housing assistance and food stamps. Whatever small amount they kick in on state and local sales tax is more than offset by other mechanisms.
Only 11 percent of people ages 25 - 55 don't pay federal income taxes. The non-paying people we are talking about are the old and the very young - the vast vast majority of working age people are paying federal income taxes. And btw, that 11 percent that doesn't pay federal taxes? Nearly one-third will do so for only one year, and almost 6 in 10 will be paying income tax within three years, and just one-in-eight are non-payers for a decade or more. The idea that there's this huge segment of working people who are laying around for years on end getting government services while paying nothing in return is a Reaganite fantasy.
It isn't going to be a social society. That is just the reset PR. It is going to be a two tiered humanity. The vaccinated are going to end up being enslaved and genome programed to be able to survive in a hostile environment. The unvacced will be in camps if they cant escape to nether regions which drones will probably make impossible.
Not "far" more. A very little more, and they (and we in Central Europe as well) get a lot more for our pooled purchasing power than my countrymen back in the US. Why did Sam's Club and Costco grow? Because people saved by buying in bulk. That is all social democracy is: buying in bulk. We pool our resources for health care. Ergo health care is cheaper and better because we the customer control the market. Same with education, housing markets, etc., etc. You can live much better on a lower income and save money by pooling your resources better (i.e. paying higher taxes).
That being said, the social contract above only works if you don't have legalized political corruption like in the US, where then the rich and big corporations don't pay like they did from the 30's to the 70's before political corruption became legal.
Tax the rich bs only works on morons. Basic math shows there aren’t enough rich people to give everyone cradle to grave everything. You have to tax the middle class to even come close to getting there. And as you do that you siphon away the thing necessary to produce future growth.
We had very high taxes then. And a huge pent up demand from WWII limited consumer items. No ice cream, no bubble gum, no no no no.................... Clothes were far more expensive then than now. But we hadn't yet fought all those wars in Asia to get access to cheap labor.
Yes, you will have to tax the "real" middle classes more too. You need to shut down the "offshore" systems. You need to reduce Wall Street to less than 10% of it's current size. You need to have a Public banking; currently private banksters conjure up the money supply and charge you and even your governments interest on the money they didn't have until you borrowed it and created an asset for them and a debt for you. I could go on but basically the people need to disregard the indoctrination and propaganda and read. YES, I know it's hard but you gotta do it.
The national and or state government's. There's been one in North Dakota for a century and it's worked and is working well. From the Fed which is a consortium of private banksters to your local branch; money is created/conjured up from nothing. When you get a mortgage from your bankster; they have about 10% of the money they loan you in reserves (also conjured but that's another lesson); the rest of your mortgage is typed into their computer and your money is created. Your loan becoming an asset for them and a liability for you. To top it off, they charge you interest on the money they didn't have until you had the debt. Now, this sounds fantastical but it's the way " fractional reserve banking work's" somewhat simplified. Now, tell me why the government pays private interest to private banksters when it as a sovereign state could create the money itself. Note the trillions created lately out of nothing but debt obligations.
In China they were introducing capitalism into a stagnant communist system so even a drop of capitalism performed miracles. When you do the reverse it’s all downhill from there because communism does not work. Even the Scandinavian countries the left raves about are lackluster. Self inflicted drag on the system.
I am advocating freedom and democracy -- not communism. We need to agitate for freedom and democracy in – our beloved USA. Although near term hopeless -- I believe in multi-party system, unlike current one party monopoly with two right wings.
China raised 800 million of its citizens - from periodic mass starvation into middle class -- an unprecedented success in human history -- while DNC and GOP oligarchs essentially eliminated middle class in the US.
"53K US contractors in the Middle East versus -- for 35K troops" !!! What a lucrative business and worth unlimited donations to both DNC and GOP politicians. Highlighting just that "detail" -- tells it all....
A 1%-er War party with two right (DNC and GOP) wings -- gay marriage, abortion, "woke", and other imposed topics are just distractions to divide 99% of population into "red" and "blue" camps while 1% happily grunt together at same donors' feeding throughs.
But brainwashed US citizen agitate "freeing" China and increasing hate of Moslems, Russians, Chinese, Martians - just to avoid thinking about our own beloved country. 1%-er overlords are playing us like a violin...
A brilliantly executed divide and conquer strategy by the bi-partisan political elites. It is just mindblowing to me that smart people with some modicum of critical thinking skills can't see this, and continue to applaud our celebrated leaders while they literally take the little we have away from us.
You will absolutely love Veroufakis on this subject. He recent book is #AnotherNow. Many of his interiews are on youtube about it. He proposes a MARKET ECONOMY. Our capitalism is not a market economy. There are endless commodities we dont need at all. We have FINANCIAL CAPITALISM which came into being as Shakespeare was writing Hamlet. (I learned this from Varoufakis.) When the East India Co wanted to grow BIG BIG BIG so the idea of selling shares came into being. Take shares away and restructure and you can get market capitalism with real products or real quality that people can treasure for generations.
Lenin knew that you CANT introduce communism from the top down. It must come form the people, from the bottom up.When Lenin went against what he knew was correct he sealed its doom. The form in Cuba was great in the beginning. Then like all good beginnings it metastasized into bureaucracy. And wonderful little hippie businesses do this. If you want to really understand the possible beauty of communism consider Jesus and his disciples. Or the movie Ema as she begins it. IT CANNOT COME FROM THE TOP DOWN AND BE IMPOSED.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
Have you ever been in China? You have dated imagination...
Paradoxical past, present and future of China's "socialist market" -- Scheer Intelligence
Robert Scheer discusses the paradoxical past, present and future of China's "socialist market" economic model with Nathan Gardels, author of "It Is No Longer Glorious to Get Rich in China," published this week by Noema, a magazine of the Berggruen Institute.
When I was in China in the early 90's I could have secured a virgin beach on the south China Sea. Did you ever see one. Nothing there but beach and water and so incredibly beautiful. The hitch was it was $100,000 and you had to put a hotel there in 5 years. I took a look and so what it would turn into and decided I would not tell my Chinese friend how we could do this as I could not bear to know I was partner to ruining it. The second offer was a meat packing plant. You know like Swift, Armour et al for $90,000. I know nothing about that business but we had driven up Hainen Island and eaten at a number of restaurants. One had a tourist shop a little ways off from the restaurant. As we walked there, pigs came up to walk with us on the dirt path. Sweet creatures that we let lick our plates and petted. We had pork for dinner and I have never tasted anything like it before or since. But oh those sweet young pigs on our walk were like the ones we ate. Put them on an assemblyb line of murder?b And I see the cruelness in my mind. So no thanks. Not me. I should have opened an English school with a young Chinese woman I met there that I loved. And she loved me. I came home to help my family. A big mistake. I am excellent at teaching bAsians especially Englishb writing and conversation. We should have done that. My Vietnamese students did so wonderful in Philadelphia.bNow you must teach it Topfl style. ROTE LEARNING. No thanks.
The higher you tax the rich, the more shelters they search out and use. Lower taxes and they dont bother so much. Paying a tax accountant to do it is not worth it anymore. Time, money and energy gt blown off.
You gotta quit drinking the Kool aid the rich are feeding you. Of course, now your governments are actually their governments. It's the lobbying by the rich and corporations that literally write the law's that make this stuff legal. People make the law's including the constitution and they can change them. The rule of law is a crock; law's didn't come down from the mountains carved in stone by god; they came from the lobbyists of the rich actually writing them and they still do. If you stopped taxing them completely, they would be looking for cash back; Oh wait, they do get cash back now. China, yes the commie's in China are actually making it easier to organize the gig economy and mandating tutoring to be public so everyone gets a chance. Can you imagine that happening in the USA? People need to stop believing the narrative because it's controlled by the Rich. As an old Dutchman once said to me.."think; I know it's hard but try it!"
Holy shit, this hit hard. I've been a subscriber since the day you left the Intercept and launched here, so I'm already right there with ya, but this really hits the nail on the head of an anxiety I can't seem to properly articulate. I live in Brooklyn and have many liberal friends who seem disturbingly OK with new selective enforcement of Covid protocols (BLM protests as valid vs the anti-lockdown people who literally couldn't feed their families...) and cheerful vilification of working class people with different politics.
At least Trump derangement folks were "deranged" and most left-leaning people I knew didn't really bite that bait. With Covid, the level of animosity for the "unclean" people has become unmatched and and creepily accepted by almost everyone. The fact that Obama and AOC types seem invulnerable to criticism is also mystifying. I'm worried. =(
What this stupidity has become is something like a zombie apocalypse movie. The unvaccinated or unmasked are never to be allowed to touch, interact or even live among the elites and "clean" members of the political and ruling class. Interacting with the zombies might cause them to become zombies themselves and be cast out from the inner circle. Modern slavery with a twist.
Working class has now been reduced to an inhuman THING to be feared and controlled lest they infect the AOC's and Nancys of this world. Wear your mask, stay inside and don't ever touch me. Like old India we now have our own untouchables.
Just do what you are told and don't ever expect to be considered as an individual after all you are just a zombie serving and working before being confined to your home when not serving. Soon vaccine passports will be the order of the day. Like East Germany carrying "papers" will be necessary to even travel within your own country. Flying on an airplane will require a mask, vaccination proof and a good reason for leaving your designated ZONE of residence.
The American Revolution was started over much less than the current abuses being heaped on us by our elected officials. Wonder if the DNA of our forefathers has been so weakened that all this has become the cost of living within or "modern" society.
The masks on the plebs do just that. They make us face less zombies there to serve. Otherwise we do not exist.
The behavior of the elite is becoming more and more sociopathic.
Let's hope and pray that there are more sane folks than brainwashed. Although in places like NY and Oregon where Im from, living among the Dem sheep makes it seem like there are more who love being Dem slaves than not.
Wish I could move to Florida.
We’d love to have you!
Moved from NYC to fly about 3 years ago and it was like moving to another country. Love it here and the politics is not monolithic but reasonably sane and the communities diverse and very "get along go along." Can't believe I wasted so many years in that overhyped and mean City. Florida is just conducive to a good life for workers and retired individuals. Most individuals are cooperative and helpful and the politicians seem to pay attention to the wants and needs of the voters.
Where is this idyllic place you moved to? Florida?
Not really idyllic just compared to NYC and that environment That may be said about many places NOT as large and dedicated to bureaucracies for running their very large and wasteful gov'ts. The problems in delivering services and responding to voters concerns goes up exponentially as gov't grows bigger and less accessible. I've lived in a few places since leaving NYC and all have been much better that the Big Apple. With Florida the weather is a plus outside the usual political considerations.
For me, the article didn't make a case for the great disparity between the haves and have nots when it comes to Covid mandates. It came across as gossiby, and even the pictures didn't make his case. That being said I am very well aware of the inequities that exist in America, like 1 % owns well over 40 percent of our country's wealth. I live in New York, and I know if you go into stores now, or are in close proximity to people you now have to wear a mask due to the delta variant. Those photographers were on top of each other, and they should be masked. I know two people who died of Covid and maybe that changes my perspective on things, although I don't harbor the hate so many feel for those who don't get vaccinated, or who have opposing points of view.
Im sorry you lost people you love to Covid but that is no excuse for what is being done now. This virus is NOT what we have been told. My family and I have had the Rona. We got it here again when my VAXXED Son in law brought it home from work. We all survived. 40 MILLION have caught and recovered from Covid. It is not an emergency, tens of thousands DIE every year from the FLU and because we did not die, or become seriously ill I began to QUESTION all the bullshit out of MSM and research in places away from MSM aka Indie media.
I learned that the PCR test is a fraud. It was never meant to be used to diagnose illness. You are free to research Kerry Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test. The CDC had the test running at between 35-42 cycles which guarantee 90% false positives. This was so the could justify their asymptomatic bullshit.
It was a brilliant plan as they convinced an entire country of healthy people that they were sick with ZERO symptoms. It is INSANE
The CDC recently announced that they will stop using THE PCR test in December because it can't tell the difference between the FLU and the Rona!!
This is OUTRAGEOUS behavior, but will not change as long as the majority can be scared into compliance and giving up their civil liberties
Don't let your loved ones deaths be in vain.
Please research. .
I understand your position, trust me. My brother died of AIDS, young, in the 1980's, and misinformation was wide spread. Someone recently informed me on this site that Fauci was highly responsible for putting forth the idea that AIDS might be easily contracted which turned out to be false. He related this information prematurely to the press and they ran with it, since fear sells. For AIDS patients in hospitals their lives were a living hell. Nurses, some doctors, aids, etc wouldn't even come into their rooms to attend their needs. Ambulette services became unavailable, and if you didn't have a supportive family that kept on top of things you very well may have died of neglect. It is a period in our history where many in the medical profession have a lot to feel ashamed of.
Fauci is responisble for millions of AIDS deaths. It is in a documentary on this that is coming out.
Aids patients got drugs from Mexico because Fauci wouldn't approve them here. He's abominable.
They convinced an entire world. And then in hospitals in the US they put them on respirators and gave them a deadly drug resdesivir (sp?) which had 2 clinical trials. One for Ebola where they all died and another for Covid where so many died they stopped the study. Fauci MANDATED it for all US bpeople admitted to hospital in US to receive it and be put on respirators. This stopped kidney function and they died. Mass murder as Fauci knew the murderous history of this drug.
What you say MIGHT be possible. Did COVID patients actually die as a result of the virus or was it malpractice on the part of the medical establishment? That might be impossible to determine since the profession has a very vested interest in propagating the story that COVID killed 100% of those admitted to and died hospitals. Like EVERY profession the medical bureaucrats act in concert to protect their turf and hide their incompetence.
Having Fauci in charge is the equivalent to having a pedophile running a kindergarten class because he is a certified teacher. Fauci has many, many conflicts of interest and connections to people responsible for funding this pandemic and yet he is still the face of the gov't's response and advises the POTUS. After all that is said and done why anyone would trust and follow gov't edicts is beyond reason. How any intelligent person is shocked by all this just shows the total lack of critical thinking skills in the general population. The political class itself is part of the problem with their blind faith in "experts" because they seem incapable of making their own determinations or inquires outside the bubble of D.C. bureaucracies and agencies.
Hi, I am a doctor. I take care of ICU patients on a regular basis. You are wrong. Over the last almost two years, it has become extremely clear in ways that are obviously quantifiable and apparently anyone with an actual job in healthcare that COVID-19 is a more virulent disease than influenza. This means its causes more severe disease in infected people than influenza does, both in terms of the % of patients who die from the disease, as well as the severity of the symptoms of patients who survive, and the overall burden of chronic sequelae (long term health consequences) associated with infection. This information is quite readily available on free to access medical journals indexed on Pubmed. These claims are not remotely controversial in the medical sphere. That you make such claims in the face of clear, abundant evidence to the contrary is truly confusing to me.
For me the 'have' vs. 'have not' was clearly exhibited with the celebrities not being masked. Masks are supposed to protect others, and there are certainly handlers that were close enough that the celebrity could be transmitting to the handler, even if the celeb was vaxxed. It just doesn't hang together when the powers that be are directing us vaxxed plebes to mask up too, but not doing the same for the elites. I, too, am visually struck by this, I am now seeing these pictures all over the place - and the minute I see the mask I think 'servant', when in the past I wouldn't have noticed the support staff as servants, I would have seen them as just part of the event.
When I mask up I see it as I'm protecting me. I know that even though vaccinated I can pick up the delta variant from someone, and if I should harbor it and I come into contact with someone not vaccinated I could transmit it to them and give them Covid. I saw the photographers, so close together as protecting themselves and each other. Those that waited the tables at Pelosi's affair were protecting themselves. Even as a kid I never saw the rich, or the famous as somehow special, in fact a whole lot of famous people throughout history were bas*tards, and they do die like everyone else.
But that's a mistake. If one assumes that masks are to protect the wearer (as all who object to masking as an infringement of their freedom do) then the arguments that masks are useless (or so close to useless that not wearing them is a rational risk assessment given the discomfort the cause) are valid. As the signs at my university say "My mask protects you, your mask protects me." The whole point is that masks impede the circulation of exhaled droplets that carry the virus from the wearer if the wearer is infected (whether asympotomatic or pre-symptomatic or even with light symptoms mistaken for a cold or allergies).
In terms of Pelosi and Newsom's get togethers they were called out on that, and the double standard.To tell you the truth if I had to come in contact with all those maskless people I would want a mask, but what would bother me is having to serve them.
The Newsom and Pelosi clips, yea they are unmasked and those serving them are, double standard, but they have been called out on that. The other clips, well the photographers are on top of each other and should be masked for their own protection. At the event with AOC the patrons that attended this event did maintain some distance. I'm not defending them, trust me. Look at it this way, they were protected from those slime balls who were unmasked and may have Covid. I have never, not even as a kid, been impressed by the rich and the famous. I was raised by a mother who was a socialist, so believe it.
you are the low-caste about whom glenn writes. it's too bad you don't recognize yourself in this very clearly drawn story, and in the innumerable photos everywhere all the time. enjoy your servitude. AOC will not be attending your thanksgiving tofurkey mask-required sad-fest this year, sorry.
I am not low class. or of low caste, and If Mr. Greenwald believes that he's an ass, and I serve no one. If AOC turns up at my Thanksgiving tofurkey I'll kick her ass out.
I just have to ask you a few questions. How old were the people you knew who died? Were they diabetic, obese, on meds, etc? And I would like to know if they ate gluten and GMO FREE and I am betting not. Were they ever smokers or daily drinkers and did they work out most days? All these things have to bee considered when making a conclusion. Not just FEELINGS!
One was a friend's mother who was overweight and did have a number of medical conditions including left sided heart failure. She was in her 80's, Also someone we knew, in his 60's, who had health issues related to working in the area where the Twin Towers went down. Neither one was young and healthy, but if it weren't for Covid they still would be here. My friend's father also contracted Covid, also in his 80's, but no underlying heart or lung issues and he survived.
I am just a critical ex researcher. Variables are important. And actually they didn't die of Covid, they died of their health issues. Too soon perhaps as our BIg Pharma can extend lives for a price these days. The regular flu would probably have done the same.
I guess I am just wanting to explain to people that making judgments based on ignoring variables tends to restrict your thinking. Do it often and youb just become one of those persons who does not think clearly. They always seem to not like me either.
Masking in a closed space makes sense if someone present is in a high risk group. Masks are to impede the circulation of exhaled droplets that carry the virus. They protect others from the wearer, not the wearer from others. That's part of the dynamics Glenn is highlighting: the bien pensant elite are protected from the hoi polloi by the staff wearing masks while they, themselves, apply the same reasoning that the vilified "anti-maskers" use -- if it doesn't protect me, I'm not going to wear it. These performatively sensitive elites don't care a whit if the working class folk who staff their galas catch the disease from them, after all, they're just little people, deplorables, who probably voted for Trump.
Just moved from Oregon to South Dakota. I recommend it.
You have a wonderful governor and that has made all the difference there during this chaos. Advice on living there appreciated. Please.
Relocating is easier now than it ever has been, I think. I just set up job search engines to find jobs in my field in SD, and when a job popped up that I was qualified for, I applied. The first set of interviews was via Zoom, and they flew me in for the second round (though he gave me the option, if I had been familiar with the area, we could have done the second round through Zoom as well). Buying or even renting a house is similar. We made an offer on a house that we had only seen via video tour, but when I saw it in person, no surprises (so far). There is not much inventory (at least in Western SD), but the homes here are still somewhat less expensive than in many other places. It's an undertaking, for sure, but well worth it, I think.
FL is okay. I was in FL several times this year and many hotels and retail establishments were requiring masks, had substantially reduced services, and it did not feel much different to me than other parts of the country.
I wish I could get somewhere else also. And most are brainwashed and I am just the messenger
Like India... wow spot on.
I said OLD India. Have no idea of cultural norms today in India.
I dont want to know. I loved the Old India.
I don't buy it Jane, you pretend to know high officials and that you have been to China and India.
I don't believe you.
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Why would it be important to me if you believed me or not. They weren't high officials in 1990. My gf was a beautician in Singapore whose mother was born on Hainen Island and ran with her husband to Malasia away from the Japanese. She let her daughter but took her son. My friend was born in Singapore after her mother ran from the Japanese again coming into Melasia. In Singapore when they came there was nowhere else to go. Her sister reamined in China and her husband was in charge of the island as an "enterprise zone." He may have been a big deal but did not come across as one at all. Some children threw stones at me on a walk I made because I had blue eyes and they had been warned against "blue eyes!" There's more to the story but not for you.
Yes I understood. Not being critical of current day India was agreeing with the “untouchable” reference.
Yes go for the very worst in the past and then compare with now. Ignorant thinking.
Nice catch
Nice catch.
I wonder if this will finally awaken class consciousness. I think the country could use a Terror.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
Yes. China wears the mask of communism concealing the REAL of capitalism. The US wears the mask of democracy concealing the REAL of totalitarianism that used to be creeping totalitarianism but now is running amok.
It is going to get one.
We have sunk into comfortable living and are soft and needy and addicted to so many things
Americans have a lot to lose, materially speaking. As such, they are afraid to do anything that could jeopardize their comfortable living, their cushy job at their woke employers, their SUV and their kids soccer career. They are also terrified to be socially ostracized. In summary, Americans are largely cowards. And so it goes.
They are today. And I know the reason. The design of the country was unique... based on libertarian paternalism. It is now a socialist matriarchy. The former was determined to be free and to pursue self interests to advance. We were the risk-takers. But the matriarchy abhors risk. It pursues the illusion of perfection... which then always becomes the enemy of the good.
Meh. Your labelling is unnecessary.
All you need to know is that hard times make strong men. Strong men make soft times. Soft times make weak men. Weak men make hard times.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Yes, I would lose the "paternal/maternal" label/reference, but M. J Boone is otherwise spot-on. You, M. Karen, are just as eloquent, imo (although some will not understand that you mean "human" when you write "men," and it would sound so less eloquent if you had used the former!), in describing the vicious cycle from which we Classical Liberals (i.e. Capitalists, despite its continued mis-attribution even here, in this otherwise wisdom filled forum) forever desire and deserve exit.
And so it goes as Vonnegut was wont to say.
Bingo.
In two of the pictures a slew of photographers are almost on top of each other, and under such circumstances it is mandated that due to the delta variant even vaccinated people should wear masks. In the clip with AOC at the Met the people in attendance seem to maintain some distance between each other, and no one in the video clip is wearing a mask. In the Jennifer Hudson clip even if no one was wearing a mask it smacks of royalty. As far as Pelosi and Newsom are concerned they have been called out on their behavior and the double standards they impose.
We waste our time on this double standards when it changes nothing but just gives us trendy up to day gossip to spout.
Gossip was a good word in reference to this article. Don't misunderstand, I think very highly of Greenwald and appreciate the work he does, but not this article. It came across as gossiby, with relatively little meaning, nor did it substantiate the very significant differences in the lives of the haves and the have nots in America.
That's like complaining that Tom Wolfe was gossipy - the tone was intentional and for effect; Glenn was embracing THEIR way of talking to illustrate the utter hypocrisy of their claims of moral superiority.
Excellent observation.
Maybe. That's a nice reading BTW. I like it.
I'm not complaining about Greenwald, just this article. The pictures did not validate what he was saying. Those slew of photographers on top of each other should be wearing masks and that Jennifer Hudson photo, well, even if her entourage weren't wearing masks they would look quite, no very subservient, and Pelosi and Newsom were called out on their hypocrisy. I grew up in Manhattan for a while and from an early age became aware of the disparity of wealth in this world, not to mention my mother was a socialist.
GG was commenting on IMAGE and what it might signify. Or NOT.It evolved into more than he thought I think.
I'm in MO ared state where it isn't too bad but bad enough. The buses and libraries are the worst. Nazi mask police everywhere.
You don't want to be Bill Murray in this movie...
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-masking-of-the-servant-class/comments#comment-2885894
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lmao, M. Iamo! (Sorry, I couldn't resist, and you've probably heard it before.)
Is your reference to the Bill murry character in the movie adaptation of City Of Ember?
As generations roll on the past is forgotten. No need to resort to genetics. Few are courageous at all anymore. And men turn on women, and women turn on men and I dont mean sexually.
To clarify the message, replace "unvaccinated," "anti-vax," "anti-government," "insurrectionists," with "infidel." To get a taste of late 1930s Germany replace with "undesirables" and "Jews." We are witnessing scapegoating going to scale as the entire Western economy teeters on collapse, supply lines die, resources dwindle, and the ruling classes freak at their looming irrelevance. The know they will soon have no value--and this is good news for the rest of us who remain firmly grounded in a three-dimensional world.
Your comparison is bullshit. Most of the freedumb luvin’
antivaxxers(many “Christians”) are the same knobs that followed America-Firster Chucky Lindberg, Father Coughlin, and the like, in blocking Jewish immigration(escape) before and during WW2.
I don't believe most are "anti-vaxxers", they are fine with vaccines that have been fully tested and peer reviewed and have a history of efficacy (mumps, flu, chicken pox etc.) This particular vaccine is novel, has not been rigorously tested. It also has certain side effects that are riskier to certain people than COVID itself. Also, why mention Christians? The point here is to not vilify people or groups of people. BTW, FDR had no interest in rescuing European Jews so you could lay the blame on the dem party prog left in power at the time. For what it's worth.
I think we all ought to start wearing YELLOW STARS! That would have been too close to the bone for AOC. Messing up a designer's dress was cool. For her. Not me.
Indeed! I agree. Notice how the. Elite love to weaponized the word unvaxxed and then DEHUMANIZE us without ONCE saying WHY we might be hesitant. They don't want anyone to know.
History will be VERY unkind to those who are committing crimes against humanity and violating the Nuremberg code of informed consent
These times are awful. The older you are the farther back you experienced freedom that is lost.
Why do you assume those who don't want the jab are antivaxxers? This irritated the shit out of me. It is better to assume that we are NOT anti vax on the whole but rather THIS vaccine t hat has killed a RECORD 14,000 people and permanently disabled 600,000 MORE.
9,000 CHILDREN have been permanently disabled, 14 are DEAD and 500 have MYOCARDITIS
The difference between rabid pro vaxxer and US anti THIS vaccine is that we are CRITICAL thinkers and have DONE our homework while the pro vax crowd is busy listening to CORRUPT AND HIGHLY COMPROMISED health officials and politicians in BED with Big pharma. There is no better definition of FASCISM than the Democratic party and their EUGENICS program funded By BILL GATES, A EUGENICIST
After surviving a serious bout of cancer last year, I DO NOT wish to play Russian Roulette with MY life, so that a few brainwashed Dem voters feel safe.
Thank you. I got the flu vaccine last year—like I usually do. My children are all up to date on their vaccinations. But this vaccine? No way. Those who have just a basic understanding of science can see that large swaths of the population should not be taking it.
Thank you, Brian.
I have a friend whose 12 year old Son got the jab. I literally BEGGGED her not to do it but she wouldn't listen. He wound up with MYOCARDITIS. I love how MSM has down played this infection. But it is extremely dangerous and has killed 14 kids already and 500 more have this illness. My friends son has to take 6 different meds for six months. He can have ZERO physical activity and will be at risk for arrhythmia heart attack and stroke the rest of his life..
My friend got a HUGE wake up call as the doctors REFUSED to acknowledge that it was the jab that did this. I can't tell you how many this is happening too. Its as if doctors are onboard this scam. She finally found a doc to treat her Son RELUCTANTLY. She had also endured emotional and verbal abuse from former Dem friends if hers when she shared what happened to her Son.
You are so wise to think of your children, Brian. I mean that from my heart.
We’ll, your friend’s son is doing better than my cousin’s friend: he’s dead. Died of a heart attack two days after his second dose. I don’t know how often people in their 20’s die of a heart attack, but I suppose it *could* have been a coincidence.
I have Charcot Marie Foote syndrome which is not well understood. It has neuropathic associated problems with it that I have discovered on my own. I suspect Eric Clapton is afflicted in some way as the vaccine paralyzed his hands and feet. so no more guitar! However it did go away. But I connected what happened to me and someone else I heard about so do not want to take that chance. I will kill myself first. This vac does stir up latent genetic DNA that can surface and really hurt you. So I think if you are seriously afraid you may not know why but pay attention to the feeling. Something in you is warning you.
amen.
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I’m pretty sure all those “free dumb living” people you speak of from WWII have long since passed from this earth. I’m not sure you can prove any of those people way back in the 40’s we’re “antivaxxers” either. Basically your statement makes no sense, and has no relevance to anything. You sound like a typical leftist hack thumbing your nose at people that could possibly have a different worldview than you. You actually are a perfect representation what greenwald spoke of in this piece. A liberal hack.
Well actually there were a lot of anti vaccers then. My mother - who was born in 1899 - blamed her little brothers death on a Small Pox vaccination. She wasnt going to let me go to Kindergarten because I had to get vaccinated for Small Pox in order to go. All the kids came down the back alley after the first day. I was outside wondering where everyone was. They had been to SCHOOL Band I wanted so much to go! Then my mom told me why." (actually she lied and said because I was so little she was keeping me home another year.)n "But," I said, "Beverly, my best friend was born on the same day I was so I am old enough." She never could stand against my demands so I got to go a week later after my shot. So I entered late and so I watched intently what the others were doing as they had already learned and I wanted to be competent. My future husband was in my kindergarten!
Hey, asshole, my vax (had covid) works better then yours.
I had the Rona too. My whole family had it and then my VAXXED son in law?brought home the ""DELTA" variant.
What it really is is a COLD. That's what Corona viruses are.
MSM makes cases sound so many and so scary.
It's funny, liberals will screech at you all day about how many are dead from the scary cold. But ask them how many are dead from the spike protein jab and they completely freak out lol!
The answer is THEY DONT KNOW.
Your point? Hope you say healthy, Superman.
The point is natural immunity is many times more effective than vaccination:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762
Maybe you can explain why someone with natural immunity should get vaccinated. Lord (of lying) Fauci could not:
https://twitter.com/TheEliKlein/status/1436387479469404164?s=20
“ The point is natural immunity is many times more effective than vaccination…” If one survives the illness.
I have had 3 friends die of covid. None from “the flu”.
Covid is the ONLY vaccination, other than for shingles, that I’ve had in 72 years(other than shots wile in the military). I filtered the info I’ve searched out, and decided that this one is really nasty.
His point is that you are an asshole.
And this response of yours points out you are an ignorant anti-science type.
By antivaxxers (your spelling, not mine) do you mean PhD's? I imagine someone as well-read as yourself knows they are the most vaccine-hesitant group.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/americans-with-phds-are-most-reluctant-to-get-vaccinated-against-covid/ar-AANjRHh
Nice catch. He gives himself away tho by his language.
That would be a clever comeback if NBC and the Wall Street Journal hadn't both done deep dives into the true demographic breakdown of those who have not gotten vaccinated (it's not who you think, or at least wish, it was). And, no, I'm not going to post links - even you should be able to figure out how to use a search engine.
You are partly right and a great deal wrong. Many idiotic people have gotten vaxed.
You are right. See my comment below to this bully.
How old are they now, these people who blocked the refugees and immigrants of WWII? Where are they?
Their spawn are around.
No they are not. But the spawn of Mao never go away. Just check the mirror.
Hate to tellyah, but the present Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, Chrystia Freeland, a liberal by the way, is a granddaughter of a scumbag Ukrainian Nazi. So, yeah…the spawn is still around.
Joycer Carol Oates has written a novel about one family. It is excellent. The Gravediggerds Daughter. I once had a 3rd grader in my class whose mom had just been admitted to the mental hospital as school started. She had tried to commit suicide. She told me later that she had been on the last Jewish ship out of Europe -nGermany was it? - and had spent the rest of her life asking herself "Why me? Why was I saved?" Heavy.
Dead of Covid from being warehoused.
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You sir just want revenge don't you? You've been a partisan hack for over 70 years and now you get to watch your enemy squirm. You're loving this tyranny. You're the good German.
Gee, aren't you just a titan of intellect. Did you like temporarily decamp from Twitter to come grace us with your best attempt at a paragraph?
Well there were a lot of them and if you read Dos Passos USA they were in that book.
Wasn't directed at you.
Yes and that was then. Think genealogically and see that it is not going to end.
They have already learned about the bad effects from the shots. News travels fast in the black community. They tell each other the new benefits, where to get this or that, THEY SHARE! They aolready know about bad efects of this SO-CALLED VACCINATION!
CDC VAERS, UK yellow card system are widely available for anyone to read
Keep in mind that VAERS only captures 1-10% of all jab deaths and injuries
14,000 are now DEAD from that jab. Black people have been the target of US eugenicists in the past with the TUSKEGEE experiment.
They are SMART and well researched.
Yes they learn from their history and then act on it.
can you link to where you’re getting your numbers from?
i’ve just learned tonight that the fda approved vaccine Cominarty is different than the version under the EUA, though the differences aren’t enumerated.
https://heavy.com/news/comirnaty-vs-pfizer-vaccine-legally-distinct/
I’m trying to cull together as much information as I can.
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The left has their “Jew” and they are coming for them.
Health Care Is A Human Right(TM), but people I disagree with (the unvaccinated) aren't humans, so they shouldn't get treatment.
Therein lies the truth of any left-wing principle: it only applies to humans, and people who disagree are not humans.
The "left" now is being hit with hypocrisy that theyb must find a way to defend for themselves. so now defense mechanisms are coming into play and they do screw it all up.
Oh dear. I say horrible things about New York. I mean them.
But I know there are many nice folks like yourself too.
You should be alarmed, not worried.
Peace and love.
I think the derangement is on both sides, the trick is to not get lured into any left or right derangement yourself!
Thats not going to work this time. Authoritarians are on the march and you will have to pick a side.
Have you read 'Woke Inc.' by Vivek Ramaswamy? He addresses a lot of this in his book, as to how financial/business intersect with our culture. It's easy to read and understand. (Finance & business are not my strong suits). Give it a tumble.
Terrifying
Yes wear a mask and pin a YELLOW STAR on your T-Shirt. Better yet screen a yellow star on it. Together they make a statement. Now if AOC had worn one to the Met Ball THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A - OK for AOC to do! Naw, she's not enough of a PARRHESIASTES to do THAT!
It is just insanity becoming normal and now institutionalized. AOC is already outdated. A few years ago what she did would have been revolutionary. Today it is not. SPEED is the new theoretical perception to be coupled with rationality and reason which are disappearing into the void below.
Kate, I agree. I still come back to read this every couple of week. Glen did great work on this one.
THANK FUCKING GOD I don’t live in a big city. Especially not one like NY. Dude, I’ve been horrified hearing and watching. Idk what all you got going onor on or owe or what sills or whatever but if I were in any big city like that I would sell everything and run! As far into the country as possible. Things are still mostly normal here. Kinda. Funny enough the state liquor store will not sell you poisonous liquor if you don’t wear a mask. But thankfully in most other places, except like hospitals n banks n gov buildings etc, there’s a pretty good mix of masked n not. I would like to see a lot less ppl make because it just illustrates how poorly educated and ignorant a lot of us are. But still, definitely better than where you’ve been for almost a couple years. I can’t even imagine. I’m imagining you’re in one of the city burrows btw, in the thick of it.
That’s what they want the residents to do: leave. The “Great Reset” psychopaths behind all of this want to de-densify the cities.
Idk what all you’ve got going on, or what you own or owe or what skills you have but…..
The original version got more flow to it...
I hate autocorrect lol
I guess that "Tax the Middle and Upper Middle Class but Definitely Not the Truly Rich" would not have fit on her dress.
“This shit worked for Barack” would’ve been a bit gauche. Maybe next year.
Barack is much taller.
LOL
Very nice comment
And tax the lower-upper class. The mega-wealthy will always be able to plan around these taxes. This will be welfare for tax lawyers and accountants; there will be a whole new category of people who need to make aggressive tax avoidance plans to avoid income taxation of their capital gains on their death.
The Estate and Gift Tax is separate from the Income Tax. Right now, you really don't have to worry about fed taxation (Estate and Gift Tax) of your estate on your death if it is under $10 million (there is an exemption for estates up to $11.6 million but you have to start worrying about reporting, compliance, and possible enforcement as you estate gets close to that amount). Many states tax estates at a lower level. But under Biden's proposed plan, when you die, your estate will have to pay INCOME TAX on the property in your estate if your estate is over $1 million (married couples over $2 million). This means that tens of thousands (perhaps millions) of moderately well off people will have to worry about their heirs getting a hefty income tax bill.
it means that when family farms are passed on, most likely, it will result in them being sold to cover the tax bill (thus incurring more taxes), and guess who's going to be buying... blackrock. there's around 35 trillion dollars in inheritance destined to be transferred to millenials over the next couple decades. it's no coincidence democrats are seeding these kids to vote away their parents inheritance.
You would not believe the number of younger people who voted Biden and potentially voted away their future prosperity should this legislation pass. Best to get on the horn to Manchin and Sinema, the only two Dems that can stop it.
The real issue is that Biden campaigned on doing this, and most had no idea prior to voting or even know now.
And Blackrock will never "die" and have to pay these taxes, only farmers, their families and other small business owners. Whoever Blackrock's lobbyist is apparently is doing an amazing job getting Biden to do everything possible to hurt small businesses and benefit very, very big business. Related this the Dems who want to "tax the rich" yet are trying to give a tax break to the rich by getting rid of the $10K state and local tax deduction limit. People at that level of SALT taxes are basically rich, or darn close to it. Yet they are spending their time trying to figure out how to give them a tax break. You can't make this stuff up.
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Bill Gates is the number one owner if farm land in the US..
You know, the eugenicist who wants all the slaves vaxxed, his depopulation plans realized and for the rest of us to NEVER eat meat but learn to love plant based meats (filled with nasty chemicals) and BUGS.
There are still family farms?
In any case, this is easily taken care of by exempting farms under certain conditions. They were, in the past, and might still be. Incidentally, it brings up an awkward point: farmers are capitalists - even though a family-operated farm is worker owned and therefore an example of socialism. Categories get complicated. (Full disclosure: I grew up with a "family farm" my family hadn't operated in 3 generations. It was ultimately sold to a corporation. Nobody was real happy with that.)
Actually there are. Some of them quite large, some more a hobby with the farmer also having a "day job" in a nearby town or city. (I write from Kansas.)
Drivel. My god shut up with this shit. It’s a literal Koch talking point
As someone in the industry, I can tell you the talking point is describing reality. Believe what you want, though.
Which "industry"? Do you work in industrial agriculture, or in tax evasion?
In any case, you're wrong in saying that the talking point is "describing reality". The talking point is, in fact, designed to keep people from seeing the optimal solution, which (as several of us have pointed out) is to tax heavy inherited wealth while exempting family farms.
I worked on a family farm, and now I work to sell seed to farmers. The taxation you propose is what has destroyed small businesses (including family farms), and is supported by the corporations you lament. However, this isn't just for farms, you would prefer AOC, Donald Trump, and Biden to get the family restaurant, the family house, and whatever family business, rather than allow the children to keep their parents possessions and businesses running. Shame on you.
Family Farms can be limited by acreage. Too sensible so it will nevr happen
calling arguments drivel and telling people to shut up is a literal soros talking point.
And smallish family owned businesses as well. It isn't only farms that get destroyed by this. People will try to find ways around this. Any number of people will be hurt by this. There will be no point in working hard to help provide for your children. That will cripple American ingenuity and innovation. These people have a complete inability to think in a logical, rational way, and apparently never ask "What happens next?" when they propose these things.
Oh, but they won't do that. The current Left hates small business: they want everyone to be employed by oligarchs so they can be the protectors of the populace, rather than impediments to people getting ahead by their own efforts.
That was made clear during the pandemic. This would just help hasten the monopolization of business, and eliminate competition and innovation. The Deep State has been helping to enable the big corporations for years.
Yeah, that "family farm" stuff is largely a fake talking point from lobbyists for a small elite that fears the estate tax and wants to protect their hereditary class privilege.
I posted an older receipt. Heritage has a report from 2004...
Statist bullshit.
They want to protect their hard-earned and well-preserved Capital for those they choose, in their own judgment, as deserving.
You want to decide that for them. That is immoral, as is ALL wealth transfer FORCED by Statist leeches like yourself.
The *family* farm nonsense is utter bullshit, Timothy.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/ten-facts-you-should-know-about-the-federal-estate-tax
democrats like to say things like this, then wash their hands while the politicians they vote for do the opposite.
Exactly this. This will literally eliminate class mobility in this country, probably exactly what they want. I work with this class of people, most of us came from upper lower and lower middle class, played by the rules, studied and worked hard, went into growing fields like tech and started to amass a small amount of family wealth (this spans multiple races too). And now it is all gone. People are starting to wake up, but tragically it is too late.
It's awfully ironically ironic. Leftists democrats complain that blacks and minorities should get reparations for missing the opportunities afforded whites throughout history, while simultaneously voting to keep those benefits from being passed on to their children. It is exactly what they want. Leftists don't educate, inspire, or persuade, they humiliate. This way, truth doesn't actually matter, the only thing that matters is that *you* shut up when *they* say you're wrong. It's a communist propaganda technique.
And that is the only solution if the progressives want to fund their welfare wish list, which can't be done by taxing the rich and corporations alone. Scandinavia does provide many more welfare benefits to its citizens; but their citizens are taxed far more than Americans.
Basically 50% of Americans don't pay any taxes. That isn't sustainable for a growing welfare society.
50 percent of Americans do not 'pay any taxes". They don' t pay federal income tax. They still pay sales tax (a regressive tax on the poor Btw) and payroll taxes. They are also possibly paying property taxes or other government fees.
It's true that our tax system is extremely dumb and unsustainable, but let's not make up stuff about it.
There is no federal sales tax. Payroll taxes generate eligibility for future SSI payments and people that don't reach the AGI threshold for payroll taxes are (unless they die early) net receivers of SSI payments. He's right. 50% of Americans largely do not pay federal income tax or fund federal government services, though they contribute a portion of the funds they will themselves receive back in SSI payments.
He didn't say "federal taxes", and if he had I would not have replied. He said "50% of Americans don't pay any taxes." It's right there in the post I'm replying to. Which is manifestly untrue, and hence the clarification.
IF you pay more then you are not using the loopholes available to you. Trump did and they hated him for doing what they did and exposing it.
Absolutely not true. If you are a w-2 wage earning married couple living in a major metro area after 20 years of working in a corporate job or medical/legal profession, it's not that hard to hit $450k / year. Outside of a small mortgage interest and charitable deductions, there are NO loopholes. And god forbid your company give you stock options as part of your compensation, I can't tell you how many people I know that were wiped out financially paying AMT on exercised stock options that were later on worth nothing due to market volatility.
They also receive money for nothing via earned income, child tax and other credits. Many of those not paying income tax receive many other benefits like housing assistance and food stamps. Whatever small amount they kick in on state and local sales tax is more than offset by other mechanisms.
Only 11 percent of people ages 25 - 55 don't pay federal income taxes. The non-paying people we are talking about are the old and the very young - the vast vast majority of working age people are paying federal income taxes. And btw, that 11 percent that doesn't pay federal taxes? Nearly one-third will do so for only one year, and almost 6 in 10 will be paying income tax within three years, and just one-in-eight are non-payers for a decade or more. The idea that there's this huge segment of working people who are laying around for years on end getting government services while paying nothing in return is a Reaganite fantasy.
It isn't going to be a social society. That is just the reset PR. It is going to be a two tiered humanity. The vaccinated are going to end up being enslaved and genome programed to be able to survive in a hostile environment. The unvacced will be in camps if they cant escape to nether regions which drones will probably make impossible.
Not "far" more. A very little more, and they (and we in Central Europe as well) get a lot more for our pooled purchasing power than my countrymen back in the US. Why did Sam's Club and Costco grow? Because people saved by buying in bulk. That is all social democracy is: buying in bulk. We pool our resources for health care. Ergo health care is cheaper and better because we the customer control the market. Same with education, housing markets, etc., etc. You can live much better on a lower income and save money by pooling your resources better (i.e. paying higher taxes).
That being said, the social contract above only works if you don't have legalized political corruption like in the US, where then the rich and big corporations don't pay like they did from the 30's to the 70's before political corruption became legal.
It's over 60% now, actually.
Tax the rich bs only works on morons. Basic math shows there aren’t enough rich people to give everyone cradle to grave everything. You have to tax the middle class to even come close to getting there. And as you do that you siphon away the thing necessary to produce future growth.
Seemed to work OK during the Eisenhower era.
We had very high taxes then. And a huge pent up demand from WWII limited consumer items. No ice cream, no bubble gum, no no no no.................... Clothes were far more expensive then than now. But we hadn't yet fought all those wars in Asia to get access to cheap labor.
You know nearly nothing. Just enough about taxes to pretend that’s what built the middle class. You’re the dangerous breed of fool.
What a know nothing post! Your ignorance is showing.
Religion, Economics, Fashion, and Politics…the Four Horsemen of Quackery in the world.
YUP! :D and on into the 70's ...
Right. Absolutely NOTHING has changed since then.
Yes, you will have to tax the "real" middle classes more too. You need to shut down the "offshore" systems. You need to reduce Wall Street to less than 10% of it's current size. You need to have a Public banking; currently private banksters conjure up the money supply and charge you and even your governments interest on the money they didn't have until you borrowed it and created an asset for them and a debt for you. I could go on but basically the people need to disregard the indoctrination and propaganda and read. YES, I know it's hard but you gotta do it.
who controls the Public Bank?
The national and or state government's. There's been one in North Dakota for a century and it's worked and is working well. From the Fed which is a consortium of private banksters to your local branch; money is created/conjured up from nothing. When you get a mortgage from your bankster; they have about 10% of the money they loan you in reserves (also conjured but that's another lesson); the rest of your mortgage is typed into their computer and your money is created. Your loan becoming an asset for them and a liability for you. To top it off, they charge you interest on the money they didn't have until you had the debt. Now, this sounds fantastical but it's the way " fractional reserve banking work's" somewhat simplified. Now, tell me why the government pays private interest to private banksters when it as a sovereign state could create the money itself. Note the trillions created lately out of nothing but debt obligations.
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hmm - In China they have so called "layered plateaus capitalism" -- research it a bit. Far more humane and equitable...
In China they were introducing capitalism into a stagnant communist system so even a drop of capitalism performed miracles. When you do the reverse it’s all downhill from there because communism does not work. Even the Scandinavian countries the left raves about are lackluster. Self inflicted drag on the system.
I am advocating freedom and democracy -- not communism. We need to agitate for freedom and democracy in – our beloved USA. Although near term hopeless -- I believe in multi-party system, unlike current one party monopoly with two right wings.
China raised 800 million of its citizens - from periodic mass starvation into middle class -- an unprecedented success in human history -- while DNC and GOP oligarchs essentially eliminated middle class in the US.
"53K US contractors in the Middle East versus -- for 35K troops" !!! What a lucrative business and worth unlimited donations to both DNC and GOP politicians. Highlighting just that "detail" -- tells it all....
A 1%-er War party with two right (DNC and GOP) wings -- gay marriage, abortion, "woke", and other imposed topics are just distractions to divide 99% of population into "red" and "blue" camps while 1% happily grunt together at same donors' feeding throughs.
But brainwashed US citizen agitate "freeing" China and increasing hate of Moslems, Russians, Chinese, Martians - just to avoid thinking about our own beloved country. 1%-er overlords are playing us like a violin...
A brilliantly executed divide and conquer strategy by the bi-partisan political elites. It is just mindblowing to me that smart people with some modicum of critical thinking skills can't see this, and continue to applaud our celebrated leaders while they literally take the little we have away from us.
100%! Great comment!
You will absolutely love Veroufakis on this subject. He recent book is #AnotherNow. Many of his interiews are on youtube about it. He proposes a MARKET ECONOMY. Our capitalism is not a market economy. There are endless commodities we dont need at all. We have FINANCIAL CAPITALISM which came into being as Shakespeare was writing Hamlet. (I learned this from Varoufakis.) When the East India Co wanted to grow BIG BIG BIG so the idea of selling shares came into being. Take shares away and restructure and you can get market capitalism with real products or real quality that people can treasure for generations.
Thank you -- wonderful. Another interesting is - Elon Musk:
https://youtu.be/8GHFq4dXBko
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Except the reality is that China has lifted 100's of millions out of poverty .
I think before we criticize China we take a look at our FASCISM first.
Lenin knew that you CANT introduce communism from the top down. It must come form the people, from the bottom up.When Lenin went against what he knew was correct he sealed its doom. The form in Cuba was great in the beginning. Then like all good beginnings it metastasized into bureaucracy. And wonderful little hippie businesses do this. If you want to really understand the possible beauty of communism consider Jesus and his disciples. Or the movie Ema as she begins it. IT CANNOT COME FROM THE TOP DOWN AND BE IMPOSED.
Janet, How about if you start? Distribute your stuff to those in need. Work more, keep less. Let's see how you feel in 10 years.
China knows capitalism is a huge challenge for them. They are trying.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
They are very well read in Marx, Lenin, Stalin and they see our errors and take note.
Have you ever been in China? You have dated imagination...
Paradoxical past, present and future of China's "socialist market" -- Scheer Intelligence
Robert Scheer discusses the paradoxical past, present and future of China's "socialist market" economic model with Nathan Gardels, author of "It Is No Longer Glorious to Get Rich in China," published this week by Noema, a magazine of the Berggruen Institute.
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scheer-intelligence/id1054586928?i=1000534192691
When I was in China in the early 90's I could have secured a virgin beach on the south China Sea. Did you ever see one. Nothing there but beach and water and so incredibly beautiful. The hitch was it was $100,000 and you had to put a hotel there in 5 years. I took a look and so what it would turn into and decided I would not tell my Chinese friend how we could do this as I could not bear to know I was partner to ruining it. The second offer was a meat packing plant. You know like Swift, Armour et al for $90,000. I know nothing about that business but we had driven up Hainen Island and eaten at a number of restaurants. One had a tourist shop a little ways off from the restaurant. As we walked there, pigs came up to walk with us on the dirt path. Sweet creatures that we let lick our plates and petted. We had pork for dinner and I have never tasted anything like it before or since. But oh those sweet young pigs on our walk were like the ones we ate. Put them on an assemblyb line of murder?b And I see the cruelness in my mind. So no thanks. Not me. I should have opened an English school with a young Chinese woman I met there that I loved. And she loved me. I came home to help my family. A big mistake. I am excellent at teaching bAsians especially Englishb writing and conversation. We should have done that. My Vietnamese students did so wonderful in Philadelphia.bNow you must teach it Topfl style. ROTE LEARNING. No thanks.
That was a sweet comment - especially about little pigs. I know several people who, after seeing / interacting with pigs, can't eat them any longer.
Great comment!
How many comments have you made on this forum today Janet?
Randall fucking Rose is gonna getcha!!!
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The higher you tax the rich, the more shelters they search out and use. Lower taxes and they dont bother so much. Paying a tax accountant to do it is not worth it anymore. Time, money and energy gt blown off.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-tax-cuts-federal-revenues-deficits/
You have to read through the good news to get to the figure about corporate tax rates.
Youb. buy the congress critter and get a huge discount on your taxes. Easy Peasy Pie.
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-masking-of-the-servant-class/comments#comment-2885894
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Mucho loopholes in corporate taxes. They buy them of course.
You gotta quit drinking the Kool aid the rich are feeding you. Of course, now your governments are actually their governments. It's the lobbying by the rich and corporations that literally write the law's that make this stuff legal. People make the law's including the constitution and they can change them. The rule of law is a crock; law's didn't come down from the mountains carved in stone by god; they came from the lobbyists of the rich actually writing them and they still do. If you stopped taxing them completely, they would be looking for cash back; Oh wait, they do get cash back now. China, yes the commie's in China are actually making it easier to organize the gig economy and mandating tutoring to be public so everyone gets a chance. Can you imagine that happening in the USA? People need to stop believing the narrative because it's controlled by the Rich. As an old Dutchman once said to me.."think; I know it's hard but try it!"