While AOC's revolutionary and subversive socialist gown generated buzz, the normalization of maskless elites attended to by faceless servants is grotesque.
Holy shit, this hit hard. I've been a subscriber since the day you left the Intercept and launched here, so I'm already right there with ya, but this really hits the nail on the head of an anxiety I can't seem to properly articulate. I live in Brooklyn and have many liberal friends who seem disturbingly OK with new selective enforcement of Covid protocols (BLM protests as valid vs the anti-lockdown people who literally couldn't feed their families...) and cheerful vilification of working class people with different politics.
At least Trump derangement folks were "deranged" and most left-leaning people I knew didn't really bite that bait. With Covid, the level of animosity for the "unclean" people has become unmatched and and creepily accepted by almost everyone. The fact that Obama and AOC types seem invulnerable to criticism is also mystifying. I'm worried. =(
What this stupidity has become is something like a zombie apocalypse movie. The unvaccinated or unmasked are never to be allowed to touch, interact or even live among the elites and "clean" members of the political and ruling class. Interacting with the zombies might cause them to become zombies themselves and be cast out from the inner circle. Modern slavery with a twist.
Working class has now been reduced to an inhuman THING to be feared and controlled lest they infect the AOC's and Nancys of this world. Wear your mask, stay inside and don't ever touch me. Like old India we now have our own untouchables.
Just do what you are told and don't ever expect to be considered as an individual after all you are just a zombie serving and working before being confined to your home when not serving. Soon vaccine passports will be the order of the day. Like East Germany carrying "papers" will be necessary to even travel within your own country. Flying on an airplane will require a mask, vaccination proof and a good reason for leaving your designated ZONE of residence.
The American Revolution was started over much less than the current abuses being heaped on us by our elected officials. Wonder if the DNA of our forefathers has been so weakened that all this has become the cost of living within or "modern" society.
The masks on the plebs do just that. They make us face less zombies there to serve. Otherwise we do not exist.
The behavior of the elite is becoming more and more sociopathic.
Let's hope and pray that there are more sane folks than brainwashed. Although in places like NY and Oregon where Im from, living among the Dem sheep makes it seem like there are more who love being Dem slaves than not.
Moved from NYC to fly about 3 years ago and it was like moving to another country. Love it here and the politics is not monolithic but reasonably sane and the communities diverse and very "get along go along." Can't believe I wasted so many years in that overhyped and mean City. Florida is just conducive to a good life for workers and retired individuals. Most individuals are cooperative and helpful and the politicians seem to pay attention to the wants and needs of the voters.
Not really idyllic just compared to NYC and that environment That may be said about many places NOT as large and dedicated to bureaucracies for running their very large and wasteful gov'ts. The problems in delivering services and responding to voters concerns goes up exponentially as gov't grows bigger and less accessible. I've lived in a few places since leaving NYC and all have been much better that the Big Apple. With Florida the weather is a plus outside the usual political considerations.
Relocating is easier now than it ever has been, I think. I just set up job search engines to find jobs in my field in SD, and when a job popped up that I was qualified for, I applied. The first set of interviews was via Zoom, and they flew me in for the second round (though he gave me the option, if I had been familiar with the area, we could have done the second round through Zoom as well). Buying or even renting a house is similar. We made an offer on a house that we had only seen via video tour, but when I saw it in person, no surprises (so far). There is not much inventory (at least in Western SD), but the homes here are still somewhat less expensive than in many other places. It's an undertaking, for sure, but well worth it, I think.
FL is okay. I was in FL several times this year and many hotels and retail establishments were requiring masks, had substantially reduced services, and it did not feel much different to me than other parts of the country.
For me, the article didn't make a case for the great disparity between the haves and have nots when it comes to Covid mandates. It came across as gossiby, and even the pictures didn't make his case. That being said I am very well aware of the inequities that exist in America, like 1 % owns well over 40 percent of our country's wealth. I live in New York, and I know if you go into stores now, or are in close proximity to people you now have to wear a mask due to the delta variant. Those photographers were on top of each other, and they should be masked. I know two people who died of Covid and maybe that changes my perspective on things, although I don't harbor the hate so many feel for those who don't get vaccinated, or who have opposing points of view.
Im sorry you lost people you love to Covid but that is no excuse for what is being done now. This virus is NOT what we have been told. My family and I have had the Rona. We got it here again when my VAXXED Son in law brought it home from work. We all survived. 40 MILLION have caught and recovered from Covid. It is not an emergency, tens of thousands DIE every year from the FLU and because we did not die, or become seriously ill I began to QUESTION all the bullshit out of MSM and research in places away from MSM aka Indie media.
I learned that the PCR test is a fraud. It was never meant to be used to diagnose illness. You are free to research Kerry Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test. The CDC had the test running at between 35-42 cycles which guarantee 90% false positives. This was so the could justify their asymptomatic bullshit.
It was a brilliant plan as they convinced an entire country of healthy people that they were sick with ZERO symptoms. It is INSANE
The CDC recently announced that they will stop using THE PCR test in December because it can't tell the difference between the FLU and the Rona!!
This is OUTRAGEOUS behavior, but will not change as long as the majority can be scared into compliance and giving up their civil liberties
I understand your position, trust me. My brother died of AIDS, young, in the 1980's, and misinformation was wide spread. Someone recently informed me on this site that Fauci was highly responsible for putting forth the idea that AIDS might be easily contracted which turned out to be false. He related this information prematurely to the press and they ran with it, since fear sells. For AIDS patients in hospitals their lives were a living hell. Nurses, some doctors, aids, etc wouldn't even come into their rooms to attend their needs. Ambulette services became unavailable, and if you didn't have a supportive family that kept on top of things you very well may have died of neglect. It is a period in our history where many in the medical profession have a lot to feel ashamed of.
They convinced an entire world. And then in hospitals in the US they put them on respirators and gave them a deadly drug resdesivir (sp?) which had 2 clinical trials. One for Ebola where they all died and another for Covid where so many died they stopped the study. Fauci MANDATED it for all US bpeople admitted to hospital in US to receive it and be put on respirators. This stopped kidney function and they died. Mass murder as Fauci knew the murderous history of this drug.
What you say MIGHT be possible. Did COVID patients actually die as a result of the virus or was it malpractice on the part of the medical establishment? That might be impossible to determine since the profession has a very vested interest in propagating the story that COVID killed 100% of those admitted to and died hospitals. Like EVERY profession the medical bureaucrats act in concert to protect their turf and hide their incompetence.
Having Fauci in charge is the equivalent to having a pedophile running a kindergarten class because he is a certified teacher. Fauci has many, many conflicts of interest and connections to people responsible for funding this pandemic and yet he is still the face of the gov't's response and advises the POTUS. After all that is said and done why anyone would trust and follow gov't edicts is beyond reason. How any intelligent person is shocked by all this just shows the total lack of critical thinking skills in the general population. The political class itself is part of the problem with their blind faith in "experts" because they seem incapable of making their own determinations or inquires outside the bubble of D.C. bureaucracies and agencies.
Hi, I am a doctor. I take care of ICU patients on a regular basis. You are wrong. Over the last almost two years, it has become extremely clear in ways that are obviously quantifiable and apparently anyone with an actual job in healthcare that COVID-19 is a more virulent disease than influenza. This means its causes more severe disease in infected people than influenza does, both in terms of the % of patients who die from the disease, as well as the severity of the symptoms of patients who survive, and the overall burden of chronic sequelae (long term health consequences) associated with infection. This information is quite readily available on free to access medical journals indexed on Pubmed. These claims are not remotely controversial in the medical sphere. That you make such claims in the face of clear, abundant evidence to the contrary is truly confusing to me.
For me the 'have' vs. 'have not' was clearly exhibited with the celebrities not being masked. Masks are supposed to protect others, and there are certainly handlers that were close enough that the celebrity could be transmitting to the handler, even if the celeb was vaxxed. It just doesn't hang together when the powers that be are directing us vaxxed plebes to mask up too, but not doing the same for the elites. I, too, am visually struck by this, I am now seeing these pictures all over the place - and the minute I see the mask I think 'servant', when in the past I wouldn't have noticed the support staff as servants, I would have seen them as just part of the event.
When I mask up I see it as I'm protecting me. I know that even though vaccinated I can pick up the delta variant from someone, and if I should harbor it and I come into contact with someone not vaccinated I could transmit it to them and give them Covid. I saw the photographers, so close together as protecting themselves and each other. Those that waited the tables at Pelosi's affair were protecting themselves. Even as a kid I never saw the rich, or the famous as somehow special, in fact a whole lot of famous people throughout history were bas*tards, and they do die like everyone else.
But that's a mistake. If one assumes that masks are to protect the wearer (as all who object to masking as an infringement of their freedom do) then the arguments that masks are useless (or so close to useless that not wearing them is a rational risk assessment given the discomfort the cause) are valid. As the signs at my university say "My mask protects you, your mask protects me." The whole point is that masks impede the circulation of exhaled droplets that carry the virus from the wearer if the wearer is infected (whether asympotomatic or pre-symptomatic or even with light symptoms mistaken for a cold or allergies).
In terms of Pelosi and Newsom's get togethers they were called out on that, and the double standard.To tell you the truth if I had to come in contact with all those maskless people I would want a mask, but what would bother me is having to serve them.
The Newsom and Pelosi clips, yea they are unmasked and those serving them are, double standard, but they have been called out on that. The other clips, well the photographers are on top of each other and should be masked for their own protection. At the event with AOC the patrons that attended this event did maintain some distance. I'm not defending them, trust me. Look at it this way, they were protected from those slime balls who were unmasked and may have Covid. I have never, not even as a kid, been impressed by the rich and the famous. I was raised by a mother who was a socialist, so believe it.
you are the low-caste about whom glenn writes. it's too bad you don't recognize yourself in this very clearly drawn story, and in the innumerable photos everywhere all the time. enjoy your servitude. AOC will not be attending your thanksgiving tofurkey mask-required sad-fest this year, sorry.
I am not low class. or of low caste, and If Mr. Greenwald believes that he's an ass, and I serve no one. If AOC turns up at my Thanksgiving tofurkey I'll kick her ass out.
I just have to ask you a few questions. How old were the people you knew who died? Were they diabetic, obese, on meds, etc? And I would like to know if they ate gluten and GMO FREE and I am betting not. Were they ever smokers or daily drinkers and did they work out most days? All these things have to bee considered when making a conclusion. Not just FEELINGS!
One was a friend's mother who was overweight and did have a number of medical conditions including left sided heart failure. She was in her 80's, Also someone we knew, in his 60's, who had health issues related to working in the area where the Twin Towers went down. Neither one was young and healthy, but if it weren't for Covid they still would be here. My friend's father also contracted Covid, also in his 80's, but no underlying heart or lung issues and he survived.
I am just a critical ex researcher. Variables are important. And actually they didn't die of Covid, they died of their health issues. Too soon perhaps as our BIg Pharma can extend lives for a price these days. The regular flu would probably have done the same.
I guess I am just wanting to explain to people that making judgments based on ignoring variables tends to restrict your thinking. Do it often and youb just become one of those persons who does not think clearly. They always seem to not like me either.
Masking in a closed space makes sense if someone present is in a high risk group. Masks are to impede the circulation of exhaled droplets that carry the virus. They protect others from the wearer, not the wearer from others. That's part of the dynamics Glenn is highlighting: the bien pensant elite are protected from the hoi polloi by the staff wearing masks while they, themselves, apply the same reasoning that the vilified "anti-maskers" use -- if it doesn't protect me, I'm not going to wear it. These performatively sensitive elites don't care a whit if the working class folk who staff their galas catch the disease from them, after all, they're just little people, deplorables, who probably voted for Trump.
Why would it be important to me if you believed me or not. They weren't high officials in 1990. My gf was a beautician in Singapore whose mother was born on Hainen Island and ran with her husband to Malasia away from the Japanese. She let her daughter but took her son. My friend was born in Singapore after her mother ran from the Japanese again coming into Melasia. In Singapore when they came there was nowhere else to go. Her sister reamined in China and her husband was in charge of the island as an "enterprise zone." He may have been a big deal but did not come across as one at all. Some children threw stones at me on a walk I made because I had blue eyes and they had been warned against "blue eyes!" There's more to the story but not for you.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
Yes. China wears the mask of communism concealing the REAL of capitalism. The US wears the mask of democracy concealing the REAL of totalitarianism that used to be creeping totalitarianism but now is running amok.
Americans have a lot to lose, materially speaking. As such, they are afraid to do anything that could jeopardize their comfortable living, their cushy job at their woke employers, their SUV and their kids soccer career. They are also terrified to be socially ostracized. In summary, Americans are largely cowards. And so it goes.
They are today. And I know the reason. The design of the country was unique... based on libertarian paternalism. It is now a socialist matriarchy. The former was determined to be free and to pursue self interests to advance. We were the risk-takers. But the matriarchy abhors risk. It pursues the illusion of perfection... which then always becomes the enemy of the good.
Yes, I would lose the "paternal/maternal" label/reference, but M. J Boone is otherwise spot-on. You, M. Karen, are just as eloquent, imo (although some will not understand that you mean "human" when you write "men," and it would sound so less eloquent if you had used the former!), in describing the vicious cycle from which we Classical Liberals (i.e. Capitalists, despite its continued mis-attribution even here, in this otherwise wisdom filled forum) forever desire and deserve exit.
In two of the pictures a slew of photographers are almost on top of each other, and under such circumstances it is mandated that due to the delta variant even vaccinated people should wear masks. In the clip with AOC at the Met the people in attendance seem to maintain some distance between each other, and no one in the video clip is wearing a mask. In the Jennifer Hudson clip even if no one was wearing a mask it smacks of royalty. As far as Pelosi and Newsom are concerned they have been called out on their behavior and the double standards they impose.
Gossip was a good word in reference to this article. Don't misunderstand, I think very highly of Greenwald and appreciate the work he does, but not this article. It came across as gossiby, with relatively little meaning, nor did it substantiate the very significant differences in the lives of the haves and the have nots in America.
That's like complaining that Tom Wolfe was gossipy - the tone was intentional and for effect; Glenn was embracing THEIR way of talking to illustrate the utter hypocrisy of their claims of moral superiority.
I'm not complaining about Greenwald, just this article. The pictures did not validate what he was saying. Those slew of photographers on top of each other should be wearing masks and that Jennifer Hudson photo, well, even if her entourage weren't wearing masks they would look quite, no very subservient, and Pelosi and Newsom were called out on their hypocrisy. I grew up in Manhattan for a while and from an early age became aware of the disparity of wealth in this world, not to mention my mother was a socialist.
As generations roll on the past is forgotten. No need to resort to genetics. Few are courageous at all anymore. And men turn on women, and women turn on men and I dont mean sexually.
To clarify the message, replace "unvaccinated," "anti-vax," "anti-government," "insurrectionists," with "infidel." To get a taste of late 1930s Germany replace with "undesirables" and "Jews." We are witnessing scapegoating going to scale as the entire Western economy teeters on collapse, supply lines die, resources dwindle, and the ruling classes freak at their looming irrelevance. The know they will soon have no value--and this is good news for the rest of us who remain firmly grounded in a three-dimensional world.
Your comparison is bullshit. Most of the freedumb luvin’
antivaxxers(many “Christians”) are the same knobs that followed America-Firster Chucky Lindberg, Father Coughlin, and the like, in blocking Jewish immigration(escape) before and during WW2.
I don't believe most are "anti-vaxxers", they are fine with vaccines that have been fully tested and peer reviewed and have a history of efficacy (mumps, flu, chicken pox etc.) This particular vaccine is novel, has not been rigorously tested. It also has certain side effects that are riskier to certain people than COVID itself. Also, why mention Christians? The point here is to not vilify people or groups of people. BTW, FDR had no interest in rescuing European Jews so you could lay the blame on the dem party prog left in power at the time. For what it's worth.
I think we all ought to start wearing YELLOW STARS! That would have been too close to the bone for AOC. Messing up a designer's dress was cool. For her. Not me.
Indeed! I agree. Notice how the. Elite love to weaponized the word unvaxxed and then DEHUMANIZE us without ONCE saying WHY we might be hesitant. They don't want anyone to know.
History will be VERY unkind to those who are committing crimes against humanity and violating the Nuremberg code of informed consent
Why do you assume those who don't want the jab are antivaxxers? This irritated the shit out of me. It is better to assume that we are NOT anti vax on the whole but rather THIS vaccine t hat has killed a RECORD 14,000 people and permanently disabled 600,000 MORE.
9,000 CHILDREN have been permanently disabled, 14 are DEAD and 500 have MYOCARDITIS
The difference between rabid pro vaxxer and US anti THIS vaccine is that we are CRITICAL thinkers and have DONE our homework while the pro vax crowd is busy listening to CORRUPT AND HIGHLY COMPROMISED health officials and politicians in BED with Big pharma. There is no better definition of FASCISM than the Democratic party and their EUGENICS program funded By BILL GATES, A EUGENICIST
After surviving a serious bout of cancer last year, I DO NOT wish to play Russian Roulette with MY life, so that a few brainwashed Dem voters feel safe.
Thank you. I got the flu vaccine last year—like I usually do. My children are all up to date on their vaccinations. But this vaccine? No way. Those who have just a basic understanding of science can see that large swaths of the population should not be taking it.
I have a friend whose 12 year old Son got the jab. I literally BEGGGED her not to do it but she wouldn't listen. He wound up with MYOCARDITIS. I love how MSM has down played this infection. But it is extremely dangerous and has killed 14 kids already and 500 more have this illness. My friends son has to take 6 different meds for six months. He can have ZERO physical activity and will be at risk for arrhythmia heart attack and stroke the rest of his life..
My friend got a HUGE wake up call as the doctors REFUSED to acknowledge that it was the jab that did this. I can't tell you how many this is happening too. Its as if doctors are onboard this scam. She finally found a doc to treat her Son RELUCTANTLY. She had also endured emotional and verbal abuse from former Dem friends if hers when she shared what happened to her Son.
You are so wise to think of your children, Brian. I mean that from my heart.
We’ll, your friend’s son is doing better than my cousin’s friend: he’s dead. Died of a heart attack two days after his second dose. I don’t know how often people in their 20’s die of a heart attack, but I suppose it *could* have been a coincidence.
I have Charcot Marie Foote syndrome which is not well understood. It has neuropathic associated problems with it that I have discovered on my own. I suspect Eric Clapton is afflicted in some way as the vaccine paralyzed his hands and feet. so no more guitar! However it did go away. But I connected what happened to me and someone else I heard about so do not want to take that chance. I will kill myself first. This vac does stir up latent genetic DNA that can surface and really hurt you. So I think if you are seriously afraid you may not know why but pay attention to the feeling. Something in you is warning you.
I’m pretty sure all those “free dumb living” people you speak of from WWII have long since passed from this earth. I’m not sure you can prove any of those people way back in the 40’s we’re “antivaxxers” either. Basically your statement makes no sense, and has no relevance to anything. You sound like a typical leftist hack thumbing your nose at people that could possibly have a different worldview than you. You actually are a perfect representation what greenwald spoke of in this piece. A liberal hack.
Well actually there were a lot of anti vaccers then. My mother - who was born in 1899 - blamed her little brothers death on a Small Pox vaccination. She wasnt going to let me go to Kindergarten because I had to get vaccinated for Small Pox in order to go. All the kids came down the back alley after the first day. I was outside wondering where everyone was. They had been to SCHOOL Band I wanted so much to go! Then my mom told me why." (actually she lied and said because I was so little she was keeping me home another year.)n "But," I said, "Beverly, my best friend was born on the same day I was so I am old enough." She never could stand against my demands so I got to go a week later after my shot. So I entered late and so I watched intently what the others were doing as they had already learned and I wanted to be competent. My future husband was in my kindergarten!
I had the Rona too. My whole family had it and then my VAXXED son in law?brought home the ""DELTA" variant.
What it really is is a COLD. That's what Corona viruses are.
MSM makes cases sound so many and so scary.
It's funny, liberals will screech at you all day about how many are dead from the scary cold. But ask them how many are dead from the spike protein jab and they completely freak out lol!
“ The point is natural immunity is many times more effective than vaccination…” If one survives the illness.
I have had 3 friends die of covid. None from “the flu”.
Covid is the ONLY vaccination, other than for shingles, that I’ve had in 72 years(other than shots wile in the military). I filtered the info I’ve searched out, and decided that this one is really nasty.
That would be a clever comeback if NBC and the Wall Street Journal hadn't both done deep dives into the true demographic breakdown of those who have not gotten vaccinated (it's not who you think, or at least wish, it was). And, no, I'm not going to post links - even you should be able to figure out how to use a search engine.
Hate to tellyah, but the present Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, Chrystia Freeland, a liberal by the way, is a granddaughter of a scumbag Ukrainian Nazi. So, yeah…the spawn is still around.
Joycer Carol Oates has written a novel about one family. It is excellent. The Gravediggerds Daughter. I once had a 3rd grader in my class whose mom had just been admitted to the mental hospital as school started. She had tried to commit suicide. She told me later that she had been on the last Jewish ship out of Europe -nGermany was it? - and had spent the rest of her life asking herself "Why me? Why was I saved?" Heavy.
You sir just want revenge don't you? You've been a partisan hack for over 70 years and now you get to watch your enemy squirm. You're loving this tyranny. You're the good German.
They have already learned about the bad effects from the shots. News travels fast in the black community. They tell each other the new benefits, where to get this or that, THEY SHARE! They aolready know about bad efects of this SO-CALLED VACCINATION!
can you link to where you’re getting your numbers from?
i’ve just learned tonight that the fda approved vaccine Cominarty is different than the version under the EUA, though the differences aren’t enumerated.
The "left" now is being hit with hypocrisy that theyb must find a way to defend for themselves. so now defense mechanisms are coming into play and they do screw it all up.
Have you read 'Woke Inc.' by Vivek Ramaswamy? He addresses a lot of this in his book, as to how financial/business intersect with our culture. It's easy to read and understand. (Finance & business are not my strong suits). Give it a tumble.
Yes wear a mask and pin a YELLOW STAR on your T-Shirt. Better yet screen a yellow star on it. Together they make a statement. Now if AOC had worn one to the Met Ball THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A - OK for AOC to do! Naw, she's not enough of a PARRHESIASTES to do THAT!
It is just insanity becoming normal and now institutionalized. AOC is already outdated. A few years ago what she did would have been revolutionary. Today it is not. SPEED is the new theoretical perception to be coupled with rationality and reason which are disappearing into the void below.
THANK FUCKING GOD I don’t live in a big city. Especially not one like NY. Dude, I’ve been horrified hearing and watching. Idk what all you got going onor on or owe or what sills or whatever but if I were in any big city like that I would sell everything and run! As far into the country as possible. Things are still mostly normal here. Kinda. Funny enough the state liquor store will not sell you poisonous liquor if you don’t wear a mask. But thankfully in most other places, except like hospitals n banks n gov buildings etc, there’s a pretty good mix of masked n not. I would like to see a lot less ppl make because it just illustrates how poorly educated and ignorant a lot of us are. But still, definitely better than where you’ve been for almost a couple years. I can’t even imagine. I’m imagining you’re in one of the city burrows btw, in the thick of it.
And tax the lower-upper class. The mega-wealthy will always be able to plan around these taxes. This will be welfare for tax lawyers and accountants; there will be a whole new category of people who need to make aggressive tax avoidance plans to avoid income taxation of their capital gains on their death.
The Estate and Gift Tax is separate from the Income Tax. Right now, you really don't have to worry about fed taxation (Estate and Gift Tax) of your estate on your death if it is under $10 million (there is an exemption for estates up to $11.6 million but you have to start worrying about reporting, compliance, and possible enforcement as you estate gets close to that amount). Many states tax estates at a lower level. But under Biden's proposed plan, when you die, your estate will have to pay INCOME TAX on the property in your estate if your estate is over $1 million (married couples over $2 million). This means that tens of thousands (perhaps millions) of moderately well off people will have to worry about their heirs getting a hefty income tax bill.
it means that when family farms are passed on, most likely, it will result in them being sold to cover the tax bill (thus incurring more taxes), and guess who's going to be buying... blackrock. there's around 35 trillion dollars in inheritance destined to be transferred to millenials over the next couple decades. it's no coincidence democrats are seeding these kids to vote away their parents inheritance.
You would not believe the number of younger people who voted Biden and potentially voted away their future prosperity should this legislation pass. Best to get on the horn to Manchin and Sinema, the only two Dems that can stop it.
The real issue is that Biden campaigned on doing this, and most had no idea prior to voting or even know now.
And Blackrock will never "die" and have to pay these taxes, only farmers, their families and other small business owners. Whoever Blackrock's lobbyist is apparently is doing an amazing job getting Biden to do everything possible to hurt small businesses and benefit very, very big business. Related this the Dems who want to "tax the rich" yet are trying to give a tax break to the rich by getting rid of the $10K state and local tax deduction limit. People at that level of SALT taxes are basically rich, or darn close to it. Yet they are spending their time trying to figure out how to give them a tax break. You can't make this stuff up.
Bill Gates is the number one owner if farm land in the US..
You know, the eugenicist who wants all the slaves vaxxed, his depopulation plans realized and for the rest of us to NEVER eat meat but learn to love plant based meats (filled with nasty chemicals) and BUGS.
In any case, this is easily taken care of by exempting farms under certain conditions. They were, in the past, and might still be. Incidentally, it brings up an awkward point: farmers are capitalists - even though a family-operated farm is worker owned and therefore an example of socialism. Categories get complicated. (Full disclosure: I grew up with a "family farm" my family hadn't operated in 3 generations. It was ultimately sold to a corporation. Nobody was real happy with that.)
Actually there are. Some of them quite large, some more a hobby with the farmer also having a "day job" in a nearby town or city. (I write from Kansas.)
Which "industry"? Do you work in industrial agriculture, or in tax evasion?
In any case, you're wrong in saying that the talking point is "describing reality". The talking point is, in fact, designed to keep people from seeing the optimal solution, which (as several of us have pointed out) is to tax heavy inherited wealth while exempting family farms.
I worked on a family farm, and now I work to sell seed to farmers. The taxation you propose is what has destroyed small businesses (including family farms), and is supported by the corporations you lament. However, this isn't just for farms, you would prefer AOC, Donald Trump, and Biden to get the family restaurant, the family house, and whatever family business, rather than allow the children to keep their parents possessions and businesses running. Shame on you.
And smallish family owned businesses as well. It isn't only farms that get destroyed by this. People will try to find ways around this. Any number of people will be hurt by this. There will be no point in working hard to help provide for your children. That will cripple American ingenuity and innovation. These people have a complete inability to think in a logical, rational way, and apparently never ask "What happens next?" when they propose these things.
Oh, but they won't do that. The current Left hates small business: they want everyone to be employed by oligarchs so they can be the protectors of the populace, rather than impediments to people getting ahead by their own efforts.
That was made clear during the pandemic. This would just help hasten the monopolization of business, and eliminate competition and innovation. The Deep State has been helping to enable the big corporations for years.
Yeah, that "family farm" stuff is largely a fake talking point from lobbyists for a small elite that fears the estate tax and wants to protect their hereditary class privilege.
Exactly this. This will literally eliminate class mobility in this country, probably exactly what they want. I work with this class of people, most of us came from upper lower and lower middle class, played by the rules, studied and worked hard, went into growing fields like tech and started to amass a small amount of family wealth (this spans multiple races too). And now it is all gone. People are starting to wake up, but tragically it is too late.
It's awfully ironically ironic. Leftists democrats complain that blacks and minorities should get reparations for missing the opportunities afforded whites throughout history, while simultaneously voting to keep those benefits from being passed on to their children. It is exactly what they want. Leftists don't educate, inspire, or persuade, they humiliate. This way, truth doesn't actually matter, the only thing that matters is that *you* shut up when *they* say you're wrong. It's a communist propaganda technique.
And that is the only solution if the progressives want to fund their welfare wish list, which can't be done by taxing the rich and corporations alone. Scandinavia does provide many more welfare benefits to its citizens; but their citizens are taxed far more than Americans.
Basically 50% of Americans don't pay any taxes. That isn't sustainable for a growing welfare society.
50 percent of Americans do not 'pay any taxes". They don' t pay federal income tax. They still pay sales tax (a regressive tax on the poor Btw) and payroll taxes. They are also possibly paying property taxes or other government fees.
It's true that our tax system is extremely dumb and unsustainable, but let's not make up stuff about it.
There is no federal sales tax. Payroll taxes generate eligibility for future SSI payments and people that don't reach the AGI threshold for payroll taxes are (unless they die early) net receivers of SSI payments. He's right. 50% of Americans largely do not pay federal income tax or fund federal government services, though they contribute a portion of the funds they will themselves receive back in SSI payments.
He didn't say "federal taxes", and if he had I would not have replied. He said "50% of Americans don't pay any taxes." It's right there in the post I'm replying to. Which is manifestly untrue, and hence the clarification.
Absolutely not true. If you are a w-2 wage earning married couple living in a major metro area after 20 years of working in a corporate job or medical/legal profession, it's not that hard to hit $450k / year. Outside of a small mortgage interest and charitable deductions, there are NO loopholes. And god forbid your company give you stock options as part of your compensation, I can't tell you how many people I know that were wiped out financially paying AMT on exercised stock options that were later on worth nothing due to market volatility.
They also receive money for nothing via earned income, child tax and other credits. Many of those not paying income tax receive many other benefits like housing assistance and food stamps. Whatever small amount they kick in on state and local sales tax is more than offset by other mechanisms.
Only 11 percent of people ages 25 - 55 don't pay federal income taxes. The non-paying people we are talking about are the old and the very young - the vast vast majority of working age people are paying federal income taxes. And btw, that 11 percent that doesn't pay federal taxes? Nearly one-third will do so for only one year, and almost 6 in 10 will be paying income tax within three years, and just one-in-eight are non-payers for a decade or more. The idea that there's this huge segment of working people who are laying around for years on end getting government services while paying nothing in return is a Reaganite fantasy.
It isn't going to be a social society. That is just the reset PR. It is going to be a two tiered humanity. The vaccinated are going to end up being enslaved and genome programed to be able to survive in a hostile environment. The unvacced will be in camps if they cant escape to nether regions which drones will probably make impossible.
Not "far" more. A very little more, and they (and we in Central Europe as well) get a lot more for our pooled purchasing power than my countrymen back in the US. Why did Sam's Club and Costco grow? Because people saved by buying in bulk. That is all social democracy is: buying in bulk. We pool our resources for health care. Ergo health care is cheaper and better because we the customer control the market. Same with education, housing markets, etc., etc. You can live much better on a lower income and save money by pooling your resources better (i.e. paying higher taxes).
That being said, the social contract above only works if you don't have legalized political corruption like in the US, where then the rich and big corporations don't pay like they did from the 30's to the 70's before political corruption became legal.
Tax the rich bs only works on morons. Basic math shows there aren’t enough rich people to give everyone cradle to grave everything. You have to tax the middle class to even come close to getting there. And as you do that you siphon away the thing necessary to produce future growth.
We had very high taxes then. And a huge pent up demand from WWII limited consumer items. No ice cream, no bubble gum, no no no no.................... Clothes were far more expensive then than now. But we hadn't yet fought all those wars in Asia to get access to cheap labor.
Yes, you will have to tax the "real" middle classes more too. You need to shut down the "offshore" systems. You need to reduce Wall Street to less than 10% of it's current size. You need to have a Public banking; currently private banksters conjure up the money supply and charge you and even your governments interest on the money they didn't have until you borrowed it and created an asset for them and a debt for you. I could go on but basically the people need to disregard the indoctrination and propaganda and read. YES, I know it's hard but you gotta do it.
The national and or state government's. There's been one in North Dakota for a century and it's worked and is working well. From the Fed which is a consortium of private banksters to your local branch; money is created/conjured up from nothing. When you get a mortgage from your bankster; they have about 10% of the money they loan you in reserves (also conjured but that's another lesson); the rest of your mortgage is typed into their computer and your money is created. Your loan becoming an asset for them and a liability for you. To top it off, they charge you interest on the money they didn't have until you had the debt. Now, this sounds fantastical but it's the way " fractional reserve banking work's" somewhat simplified. Now, tell me why the government pays private interest to private banksters when it as a sovereign state could create the money itself. Note the trillions created lately out of nothing but debt obligations.
In China they were introducing capitalism into a stagnant communist system so even a drop of capitalism performed miracles. When you do the reverse it’s all downhill from there because communism does not work. Even the Scandinavian countries the left raves about are lackluster. Self inflicted drag on the system.
I am advocating freedom and democracy -- not communism. We need to agitate for freedom and democracy in – our beloved USA. Although near term hopeless -- I believe in multi-party system, unlike current one party monopoly with two right wings.
China raised 800 million of its citizens - from periodic mass starvation into middle class -- an unprecedented success in human history -- while DNC and GOP oligarchs essentially eliminated middle class in the US.
"53K US contractors in the Middle East versus -- for 35K troops" !!! What a lucrative business and worth unlimited donations to both DNC and GOP politicians. Highlighting just that "detail" -- tells it all....
A 1%-er War party with two right (DNC and GOP) wings -- gay marriage, abortion, "woke", and other imposed topics are just distractions to divide 99% of population into "red" and "blue" camps while 1% happily grunt together at same donors' feeding throughs.
But brainwashed US citizen agitate "freeing" China and increasing hate of Moslems, Russians, Chinese, Martians - just to avoid thinking about our own beloved country. 1%-er overlords are playing us like a violin...
A brilliantly executed divide and conquer strategy by the bi-partisan political elites. It is just mindblowing to me that smart people with some modicum of critical thinking skills can't see this, and continue to applaud our celebrated leaders while they literally take the little we have away from us.
You will absolutely love Veroufakis on this subject. He recent book is #AnotherNow. Many of his interiews are on youtube about it. He proposes a MARKET ECONOMY. Our capitalism is not a market economy. There are endless commodities we dont need at all. We have FINANCIAL CAPITALISM which came into being as Shakespeare was writing Hamlet. (I learned this from Varoufakis.) When the East India Co wanted to grow BIG BIG BIG so the idea of selling shares came into being. Take shares away and restructure and you can get market capitalism with real products or real quality that people can treasure for generations.
Lenin knew that you CANT introduce communism from the top down. It must come form the people, from the bottom up.When Lenin went against what he knew was correct he sealed its doom. The form in Cuba was great in the beginning. Then like all good beginnings it metastasized into bureaucracy. And wonderful little hippie businesses do this. If you want to really understand the possible beauty of communism consider Jesus and his disciples. Or the movie Ema as she begins it. IT CANNOT COME FROM THE TOP DOWN AND BE IMPOSED.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
Have you ever been in China? You have dated imagination...
Paradoxical past, present and future of China's "socialist market" -- Scheer Intelligence
Robert Scheer discusses the paradoxical past, present and future of China's "socialist market" economic model with Nathan Gardels, author of "It Is No Longer Glorious to Get Rich in China," published this week by Noema, a magazine of the Berggruen Institute.
When I was in China in the early 90's I could have secured a virgin beach on the south China Sea. Did you ever see one. Nothing there but beach and water and so incredibly beautiful. The hitch was it was $100,000 and you had to put a hotel there in 5 years. I took a look and so what it would turn into and decided I would not tell my Chinese friend how we could do this as I could not bear to know I was partner to ruining it. The second offer was a meat packing plant. You know like Swift, Armour et al for $90,000. I know nothing about that business but we had driven up Hainen Island and eaten at a number of restaurants. One had a tourist shop a little ways off from the restaurant. As we walked there, pigs came up to walk with us on the dirt path. Sweet creatures that we let lick our plates and petted. We had pork for dinner and I have never tasted anything like it before or since. But oh those sweet young pigs on our walk were like the ones we ate. Put them on an assemblyb line of murder?b And I see the cruelness in my mind. So no thanks. Not me. I should have opened an English school with a young Chinese woman I met there that I loved. And she loved me. I came home to help my family. A big mistake. I am excellent at teaching bAsians especially Englishb writing and conversation. We should have done that. My Vietnamese students did so wonderful in Philadelphia.bNow you must teach it Topfl style. ROTE LEARNING. No thanks.
The higher you tax the rich, the more shelters they search out and use. Lower taxes and they dont bother so much. Paying a tax accountant to do it is not worth it anymore. Time, money and energy gt blown off.
You gotta quit drinking the Kool aid the rich are feeding you. Of course, now your governments are actually their governments. It's the lobbying by the rich and corporations that literally write the law's that make this stuff legal. People make the law's including the constitution and they can change them. The rule of law is a crock; law's didn't come down from the mountains carved in stone by god; they came from the lobbyists of the rich actually writing them and they still do. If you stopped taxing them completely, they would be looking for cash back; Oh wait, they do get cash back now. China, yes the commie's in China are actually making it easier to organize the gig economy and mandating tutoring to be public so everyone gets a chance. Can you imagine that happening in the USA? People need to stop believing the narrative because it's controlled by the Rich. As an old Dutchman once said to me.."think; I know it's hard but try it!"
AynRand had it right. But she didn't know she did. So her disciples are hysterics about unfettered capitalism. IF you had direct elections and voting and only one term for ALL elected offices that would immediately take the money out. Who wants to buy a dead horse in congress who will be gone at the end of her term?
Term limits would be mere panacea, if they weren't so Statist, anti-freedom, and therefore immoral. The People, at all times must be free and un-fettered to choose their representatives, lest they be absolved of responsibility, and not required to be invested and learn from their errors.
Think? Now we have a few generations who have been educated by No Child Left Behind. ALLOF THEM WERE LEFT BEHIND so now left behind is the new NORMAL and it is now INSTITUTIONALIZED. No that Dutchman was wrong. Thinking is not hard, it is now impossible for most.
They only care about shrinking the overall number of taxpayers as much as possible. If they do that, then the number of people who care about any of their socialist programs shrinks and they can do whatever they want. Our goal should be to have everyone pay something if they can - even if it's a small amount - then, and maybe then, can we get back to some sort of fiscal discipline because more people have some skin in the game.
There is nothing, NOTHING I hate more than hypocrisy. And this is the best example of why the public doesn't believe anything the ruling class says on the subject. If they are ok not to follow their own edicts, then why aren't we? Something has been bothering me about the whole thing, and Glenn just summed it up beautifully. ❤️
What about hypocrisy pertaining to rape -- e.g. women who accuse Kavanaugh must be believed without question, but women accusing Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, etc... are part of a "vast right-wing conspiracy".
"Masks" do NOT prevent the transfer of respiratory viruses.
Putting aside the fact that common masks are not medical devices or treatment, they are engineered devices - meaning they have design tolerances and specifications that do not include filtering out viruses as small as the SARS-Covid 2 virus (of any variant.) Why this is so hard for people to conceptualize is confusing. Imagine, a glass of salt water. Imagine putting one of these masks loosely around a straw and putting it into the glass. When you draw up on the straw, what will the water taste like - Distilled water or salt water?
But, that said, ask yourself this about the typical mask you see someone wear:
1) What percent of the air they are breathing in is coming around the mask?
2) Where do the viruses go if they are stopped by the mask?
Like most everything else in this Covid Shitshow, masks are just a compliance exercise of the elites to see who they can control.
You're essentially right about the general function that masks serve particularly as described in this article, but the idea that "masks do NOT prevent the transmission of respiratory viruses" based on my understanding evinces the same fundamental misunderstanding of how a virus causes diseases that underlies much of what's gone wrong in this pandemic. Becoming "infected" with a respiratory virus is not the same thing as being exposed to it. Nearly everyone's immune system is capable of fighting off low-level assaults by any kind of pathogenic virus, but by the same token, there is a threshold beyond which nearly everyone's immune system will succumb to that same virus. So preventing infection is not a binary "1/0" question; it's more like a sliding scale that goes from 1 to 1M, and at "1", you don't even notice that you've fought it off and at "1M", your immune system is overwhelmed and you're on your way to the ICU and a vent.
The function of the masks is to keep the exposure level closer to "1" than "1M". Yes, there is presumably quite a bit of leakage through and around the mask, but if you are in an enclosed space for a limited period of time (a grocery store for example) and everyone is in a mask there, the amount of virus in the air will be significantly less than if everyone was unmasked. Much of the time the difference may not be significant enough to matter, but theoretically sometimes it will. But again, this only applies in densely populated enclosed spaces where people are there for limited periods of time. It would be very unlikely to work, for example, to prevent household transmission. And it should be obvious, that it's not going to make a difference outdoors, except possibly in the most extremely crowded situations imaginable.
All that said, to have a gala where the guests are unmasked but the server are masked obviously makes no sense whatsoever from a public health standpoint, and that's why Glenn has correctly pegged it as a "grotesque" display of symbolic power and humiliation.
As it turns out, if this virus were transmitted by droplet, masks might have some efficacy. However, they have now discovered that this virus is not droplet borne but goes out as separate virions, much too small for the mask to do much. So they are pretty much useless, and actual scientific evidence supports this. But our betters ignore that science because it doesn't help their cause.
Yes, it's mostly aerosols against which non-N95 masks are not super-protective, but again, it's a cumulative set of factors: ventilation, amount of time spent in the space, how many people are in the space, how much virus is being put out by the infected person(s) in question, how robust is the immunity of the people being exposed. Universal masking is to me just one factor that in some situations probably reduce the total amount of virus in a given airspace, and so could reduce the chances of an exposure becoming an infection. The thing I don't understand is that it's not all or nothing, it's relative, and given that it's relative, there's no reason to worry about whether everyone is wearing a mask. If there are 50 people there, and 2 or 3 aren't wearing a mask, it's not likely to make an appreciable difference in the overall level of risks, therefore no need to "mandate" masks anywhere, just put out a recommendation and let adults decide for themselves. I say the same thing about everything else relative to COVID, nothing should've ever been mandated because nothing offered absolute protection, it was always just generally reducing the overall risks within reasonable bounds.
Yes, there are already several other coronaviruses in circulation that we call the common cold. I believe that unfortunately CV-19 was created in a lab by altering a bat coronavirus that wouldn't normally be capable of infecting humans and making it into one that can. Bats, living in dank caves as they do, have way stronger natural immune systems compared to humans. I'm not sure that CV-19 will ever regress to become like the other presumably naturally-occuring coronaviruses.
A cumulative set of factors. Like all those plexiglass barriers between tables at restaurants that interrupt the air filtration system and keep viral clouds close to diners?
And now let's consider how people wear masks. I see masks dangling off of car rear view mirrors all the time. I see people pulling them out of their pockets. Are they freshly laundered? That's anyone's guess.
Do people really keep a little bucket of isopropyl alcohol by the door and toss their cloth mask in, then pull it out an hour later and hang it to dry for tomorrow? Or are most people just using the same cloth mask over and over, and sticking it back in the pocket of their unwashed pants?
My sleeve is just as good at blocking droplets from a cough or a sneeze. I've learned to dab my perpetually drippy nose (a curse since childhood) with the back of my wrist.
Meanwhile, I'm being accosted in grocery stores by male Karens who claim my medical exemption puts them at risk, while they agitatedly squeeze a dozen oranges and put them back. And my response to them is, "have you touched your mask since you last sanitized your hands? Just wondering if I want to buy any oranges today."
Yeah, as I say, the protective effect of masks at best in no way warrants anyone getting upset because a particular person isn't wearing a mask in a particular place. It's not that kind of thing, if lots of people wear masks in lots of places, the general rate of transmission in that particular community will likely slow. But any one person doesn't much matter, and it doesn't much matter if everyone wears a mask or if just most people or even a lot of people do.
In my city, when they first mandated masks, they put someone on the radio asking people to be considerate and compassionate to people who were not wearing masks.
Roughly 10% adults, the spokesperson said, have a legitimate health reason to not mask up. Might be a pulmonary or vascular condition, or a mental health condition, but if you see someone without a mask, please don't automatically jump down their throat.
As someone in that category, I was grateful. For that one, never to be repeated, public service announcement.
And don't get me wrong. Staff at most of our local shops were not allowed to enforce a mask mandate. Corporate was like, "ehhhh, don't want to touch this. It's legally dubious. Someone comes in without a mask, offer them one. If they say no, that's the end of the conversation."
Why? Because if you basically force someone to put one on and they brain themselves on a display of dill pickles, you're going to get sued. If you demand proof that they have a medical reason to not wear one, you can get sued for invading their medical privacy. If you refuse them service, you can get sued for discrimination based on disability.
There is literally no way to win for a business. They didn't advertise the policy. If they did, only the people who wanted to wear a mask would wear one. Which is basically fewer than 50% of the customers. Maybe fewer than 30% (which is about the percentage of people who kept wearing after they lifted the mandate over summer).
So there I am in the store, and I'm looking around and I'm literally the only one without a mask. So I'm wondering are there 8 or 10 people in the store wearing masks even though it harms their health, or are the people who can't mask up just under a self-imposed house arrest?
I don't get harassed often, but when I do I just take it in stride.
Incidentally, my city tried to do a "no mask passport" thing. An exemption card. Within 2 weeks, there was a thriving black market for them and they scrapped the program.
You do know that most viruses that we catch are at HOME, right?
When I had cancer and was doing chemo I got sick with a horrifying cold. It went into my chest and I was coughing and hacking like a sick horse.
So I had to wear a mask when I went to chemo while sick. But at NO TIME did they demand that others wear one too. I am very grateful my treatment ended just months before the Rona nonsense started because PROTOCOL would have had me on a vent.
Most people do NOT need a vent. But they are doing it because it kills.
Masks do nothing to stop the spread of a virus. It will stop your sputum from flying out of your mouth of you're sick and coughing but otherwise it is virtue signaling nonsense.
There was an interesting study from some time back where 12 British scientists were overwintering at the British base in Antarctica. That means that for some 6 months or longer, they will have no contact with anyone outside the group there because the planes that supply the base can't get in due to the temperatures and the weather. About three months in one of them contracted a cold which got passed on to some of the others (not all, as I recall.) So the question is, since these people were in good health at the beginning of what one might call the "lock-in," where did this cold virus come from three months later? It calls into question all the accepted ideas about how colds are transmitted.
I agree with you completely about the efficacy of masks - of the right kind, including multi layered cloth ones, properly fitted - there have been multiple studies on this ... The point is to reduce the "dose" of virus one gets. The analogy I have used is a person walking next to a beehive - if a few bees sting you you will be no more than sore (unless you are allergic to the bee venom) but if a whole bunch sting you, you can get really sick.
And you can be infected, and hence be a transmitter, without being sick yourself (remember Typhoid Mary)
But the question is what hypocrisy was Glenn pointing out? Was he saying that the guests didn't believe in masks and saw no need to wear them, so getting the "servants" to wear them was a display of dominance, or did they indeed believe in them and refusing to wear them was a display of total lack of concern for their "inferiors", the ones they purported to care about?
I would like to know if Glenn wears a mask, and if so under what conditions? And if not, why not? Does he believe they work? Has he been vaccinated? And you might say, what does it matter if he does/has or not? It matters because he sets the tone in these posts - is he afraid that if he answers yes, to one or both, he will lose a lot of his supporters who are clearly anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers. And if he answers no - would he say why .... if not, he is feeding fuel to this pandemic fire ...
Yes, I think the bee analogy is spot on. I think the issue the Glenn is pointing out is that we're now into this visibly unequal enforcement of masking requirements based pretty much on social class. I've noticed it myself, I've been to a number of places in the affluent parts of California over the past couple of months, and it's just generally the rule now in these places that the workers wear masks, and the "customers", i.e. those attending a wedding, or dining at a restaurant, etc., do not. It doesn't make much sense from a public health standpoint, if the workers need to be masked, why don't the customers? But the reality is that the customers are paying and so call the shots, and the workers are being paid, and so must follow orders. But it has a very, "rules for thee, but not for me" kind of feel to it, and to me, it's gross.
The hypocrisy is the "Do as I say, not as I do" attitude and it has existed for millennia between the peasantry and the aristocracy. The Dems keep preaching that we have moved beyond that yet they behave in the same old ways.
Next the fascist lunatics come with the argument that there was no flu last winter so masks must work. Nevermind that voluntary behavior changes were huge while all scientific tests of masks show no significant benefit.
I thought % positive for PCR flu tests was abnormally low, but could be mistaken. Anyway, I'm still bitter about the flu-shot mandate for schools last year in MA, which was later retracted after the vax deadline.
The first test performed in the winter of 2020/2021 was a COVID test. As we now know, that test did not distinguish between flu and COVID. If it was positive, they had a diagnosis, and no further testing was done. And generally of the 60 or 70 million people "diagnosed" with flu every year. the diagnosis is only confirmed by laboratory testing in not more than 1.5 million cases. All the rest are "diagnosed" by time of year and symptomology, not by lab testing.
I've already had this conversation with an MD family member. There is no evidence so now we must believe her readings of the tea leaves of life and call them science.
Of course any test that showed results must, by your definition, be "unscientific", or not replicated umpteen times or not sufficiently peer reviewed, or in "respected journals" as i am sure all yours were ... care to share them?
Sorry, what does your citation have to do with any of this?
The only RCT to test mask-wearing’s specific effectiveness against Covid-19 was a 2020 study by Bundgaard, et al. in Denmark. This large (4,862 participants) RCT divided people between a mask-wearing group (providing “high-quality” three-layer surgical masks) and a control group. It took place at a time (spring 2020) when Denmark was encouraging social distancing but not mask use, and 93 percent of those in the mask group wore the masks at least “predominately as recommended.” The study found that 1.8 percent of those in the mask group and 2.1 percent of those in the control group became infected with Covid-19 within a month, with this 0.3-point difference not being statistically significant.
The scientific data supporting mask mandates is pretty weak.
The CDC has found that a mask mandates reduce the growth rate of new COVID-19 infections by 1.8% after they have been in effect for 100 days.
I'm not sure what a slight reduction in the case growth rate is supposed to accomplish. All it does is cause the wave to peak a day or two later than it otherwise would have. CDC never said that mask mandates reduced the overall number of infections -- only that they slowed the case growth rate by 1.8% after 100 days.
"During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1, 1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all)."]
Another study published last month found that "There was no reduction in per-population daily mortality, hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator occupancy of COVID-19-positive patients attributable to the implementation of a mask-wearing mandate."
Unfortunately, the CDC were too lame to make a randomized study, so we have to rely on the Danish data. That MMWR paper doesn't account for seasonality and intrinsic dynamics of the epidemic, which are the biggest drivers of case growth vs. time, and its main purpose is to highlight the CDC's incompetence.
Instead of at least mentioning this huge limitation, something any self-respecting scientist would do, they just sweep it under the rug. But I'm sure their guidance is totally solid.
To start with, I've been vaccinated. Since vaccines do save live, I'm hoping that our bought-and-paid-for government won't pull another Tuskegee experiment on us. Time will tell.
Later in July, as the number of coronavirus cases continue to grow, some conservative influencers (politicians and media) begin to show more support for the vaccine, while some liberal influencers blame the anti-vaxxers.
Yeah, I think I read that study - it's description as a RCT is highly suspect - what, precisely, was controlled? 3 layer surgical masks - worn how? Studies have shown that if they leak, around the edges, that is, they don't work so well at all ....
Masks don't have to filter out particles as small as viruses. Viruses don't just float around in the air all by themselves, they're in water vapor droplets that people breathe, cough, or sneeze out. You'd know that if you weren't so arrogant that you think you already know it all.
And what is the size of these water droplets? And when they dry out on the mask what happens to the nanoparticle of the "virus"? The next breath you take sucks it into your nose or throat.
Look at COVID deaths vs. cases for the current US wave. The ratio is 1% and rising, about the same as the winter wave, even though an overwhelming fraction of the most vulnerable are now vaxxed.
A coupla things - the Delta variant has changed the game - much more transmissible, and shows evidence that degree of vaccine efficacy against it vs "the original" is a bit less, the most vulnerable were vaccinated first, and immunity wanes over time ... And the cohort getting sicker and dying is getting younger .... proving more "vulnerable" than first thought
We need better vaccines - in the meantime these are better than nothing. And, in the meantime, sorry, we need to wear masks ....
"the most vulnerable were vaccinated first, and immunity wanes over time"
This is not necessarily the case. I mean, sure, over the course of years or decades, but I don't know of any virus that requires boosters every six months for the rest of your life.
Reinfections are still extremely rare. Breakthrough cases, less rare but still rare.
Is this because immunity is waning?
The spike protein (the sole target of the most popular vaccines) mutated. It's a different protein. And while the antibodies are still able to neutralize it, if your body can't recognize it right away, you're going to have a delayed immune response.
Imagine some guy with long hair and a beard robs your store. A month later, same guy shows up clean shaven with a flat-top. Are you going to recognize him before he's at the register with his gun out? Maybe. Maybe not.
This isn't about immunological memory loss. Your immune system still remembers that guy with the long hair and beard. It's just he doesn't have long hair and a beard now.
They're promoting boosters because the antibodies still work (for now, and probably less well, but well enough-ish) and a booster will make your body generate another batch. After 6 months, they'll be out of circulation, and you'll need another booster.
Now consider this. These vaccines are being paid for by governments, who never run out of other people's money. They're being marked up 2400%, which means every shot is about $50 of pure profit.
And when I say pure profit, I mean pure profit. I'm a fan of limited patent protection for new drugs. Why? Because drug companies invest hideous amounts of money in research and development, and they deserve a temporary monopoly to earn that investment back. But these companies were given billions in grants by the very governments they're now gouging to the tune of 24 times the cost of production.
Of course they're pushing boosters. Of course they're claiming with no evidence that the problem is waning immunity, something that generally takes years or decades to occur. Of course they're falsely saying that if you have no serum antibodies anymore, you're no longer immune. You're a $50 bill if they can convince you, and they don't even have to worry about whether you can afford it, because hey, the well of taxpayer money is bottomless.
And they'll play with statistics to trick you, too. The cohort of people getting sicker and dying is getting younger. Sure. Because they're the least likely to be vaccinated, and all the old people were either vaccinated or had it and recovered or died. 50% of deaths are now in people 50 and younger! How horrifying!
When you look at the raw numbers, what do you see? Young people are increasing as a proportion of hospitalizations and deaths, but they're not increasing in raw numbers.
I just went and checked the data for my province. There were more cases during our April/May 2021 surge than during our November/December 2020 surge. But accounting for lag, in April/May, there were 1/3 the deaths. This most recent surge everyone is panicking about? About the same as April/May.
We have "free" health care here. Our hospitals generally run at 95-99% capacity. 88% of our ICU beds are currently occupied, and everyone's losing their minds.
Why would you trust the drug companies who are price gouging the very taxpayers who underwrote their research?
What is so cool is that all the fricking morons that buy into the official narrative this time are going to the ones who get terribly ill and die. And it is their own fault. Karma is a bitch that's gonna make you twitch.
Willie "The Demented One" Wonka seems to have been doing the early trials of an experimental love potion and volunteered his testicle instead of a deltoid thinking it'd swell his deflowerer.
Since then Billie has been a practitioner of the "woowoo dance of masturbatory ulations" of which he owes me and the forum a demo link.
100%. And as someone with emphysema the fucking things make breathing very uncomfortable. I wish I had the money to move. I would have left this Dem shit hole long ago
Masked sheep everywhere. Walk down the street and people LITERALLY walk in the street off the side walk to avoid you.
Worse, the standard white masks sold in pharmacies has Graphene Oxide imbedded in the cloth. Graphene Oxide is a poison heavy metal. That is also in these mRNA gene therapy solutions fraudulently called vaccines.
In Quebec, they had to recall thousands of masks they'd been forcing school children and teachers to wear for months. Why? Because graphene fibers were shedding from them.
These people said it felt like they were swallowing cat hair all day.
Next you'll be claiming submarines don't have screen doors. Even nuclear subs must comply with the mask mandate. Water is deadly to our sailors. Even if the screen door has leaks, it does slow the entry of water.
The fact that AOC even showed up (regardless of what her $10K gown said) proves that she is just like the rest of the elitists and elected representative sell outs. This was a marketing opportunity for her to build her brand's equity, she is a gluttonous opportunist after all (oh, but I was there to get my message out). AOC does believe in the socialist policies that she claims to care about, but only because they will get her re-elected, and because they help her build her brand. She will get rich and famous off earned media and maybe leave some more crumbs for the serfs.....maybe.
The only thing you can be sure AOC can be counted on to do is excel in a blatant publicity stunt. Nice to know this is how she spends her time while drawing a salary from US taxpayers. She would never put "universal health care" or "support the return of family farms" inked over her lazy ass.
Nah, AOC is just the flavor of the moment playing a role. A person with "star power" who is being fed what to say, what to do etc. The crash and burn will be spectacular.
AOC is an active and enthusiastic participant in this hypocritical performance. She's an adult and responsible for her own actions. It took time, effort and cash to design that gown and plan to attend the gala for self-advancement. She mouths socialist slogans but is as interested in the welfare of people as Czar Nicholas II. I hope you're correct about the spectacular end of her career.
She's been a disappointment, from a lefty point of view, a perfect example of position and party corrupting. Nonetheless, as someone who's helped pick candidates, I can tell you she's a dream candidate, certainly for anywhere on the left. She's smart and has charisma to burn, and cameras love her.
She'll probably be the first woman President. Better than Hillary, anyway.
She sounds like a 13 year old, think like a 10 year old, and she’s never had an original thought in in her entire life. If that’s a dream candidate it is because morons appeal to the DNC electorate.
Sorry Chuck, for me anyone who ties his/her political cart to the D donkey, or the R elephant, for that matter could never, IMO, be a "dream candidate" - they are allowed to run as Ds to keep lefties in the D tent and away from 3rd parties - running with the Ds is dancing with the Devil - you can boogie a bit, but step on his toes and there is hell to pay ... ask Kucinich ....
Having a MSM political propaganda apparatus working in one’s favor at every step - is quite separate from political aptitude.
She’s a profoundly ignorant imbecile, she’s never held an original thought in her life, and has never progressed beyond first order thinking. Not unlike pop music stars with no talent, she’s a product with a brand and never has to be accountable for her dipshittery.
Remember, repulsive Sinema was like AOC -- before she became a fascist - what she is now.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
Oh, it seems she doesn't really believe in that stuff - but it is useful rhetoric these days, any more than Trump believed SARS Cov-2 was a harmless virus when he was helicoptered to a top military hospital, and had the sink of treatments thrown at him ...
NTM that after March, 2020, true N95 masks were reserved for health care professionals, and what was sold to the general public on Amazon, et al, were KN95 masks, made in China, and manufactured with no real measuremen against the N95 standard. What few 3rd party tests were done seemed to indicated that some, probably most, possibly all KN95 masks were vastly inferior to the real thing. When I couldn't get away without a mask last year, I wore a 3M half-face respirator (that I already owned) equipped with P100 cartridges. That combination probably afforded me at least a little bit of protection. The real joke on the autocrats is that such respirators only filter incoming air, there is an exhalation valve to minimize breathing effort...
Most of them were elderly and with four underlying conditions. Very few died OF covid. The numbers have been distorted to manipulate people like you to follow the mandates and get vaxxed. Sadly, people die every day and the best defense against any disease is a healthy lifestyle which is hardly ever mentioned by the "experts."
Both N95 and KN95 masks are designed the filter out 95% of particles. The difference is what SIZE particles the filter. N95 will filter particles as small as viruses, but KN95 allow viruses to pass through. KN95 are greated for industrial uses to filter dusted; coronavirus, not so much.
Well. Fucking. Done. Thank you for continuing to shed light on the enormous amount of disturbing societal shifts we've seen since March 2020. We truly need your voice along with the select few other journalists, who are courageous enough to push back against the groupthink and expose this gross hypocrisy.
I've always thought that no one writes a better "takedown piece" than Mark Steyn. That may still be true, but Mark now has competition. Glenn's piece is brilliant and savage in equal measure, a tour de force of prose. If you wonder why so many of us pay little or no attention to our alleged 'leaders', this essay is a great place to start.
Many of the servers visible in the video Glenn embedded seem to be white (some may be from "south of the border"). That doesn't negate Glenn's overall point, but his use of the phrase "masked servants of color" may be inaccurate.
I was honestly hoping Glenn's use of it was a little dig at the Newspeak of these times - BIPOC, Latinx, et al. I assume Mitch's use is exactly that. And of course, white is also a color. Not intending any snark here.
Masks are fascist symbols. Please point out the fascism of their advocates. The science behind masks is weak, and they may make the pandemic worse because of confounding factors where people engage in riskier behavior because they overestimate effectiveness. https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-evidence
I was never one to be drawn towards AOC, however, at this moment I do feel empathy for those who not only voted for her, but trusted her to lead any sort of movement or challenge real power dynamics. I am quick to notice in this imagery the similarities to the animals of Orwell's Animal Farm:
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
How can anyone observe this and not only see the blatant hypocrisy, but also betrayal? It is rather insulting for her to not only attend, but then give such an obviously myopic and absurd justification for doing so. I don't know if a better juxtaposition of imagery exists today that better exemplifies the current environment: attending a decadent gathering of the mega-elite while wearing a preposterously extravagant dress with clearly empty sanctimony.
This is beautiful Glenn, thank you for writing such a complete take down of this insanity.
The fact that many cannot see the oligarchic dystopia of mask wearing is so deeply saddening. Many are in denial about how far along the road to serfdom we are.
I've often lamented that Tom Wolfe is no longer around when we need him the most but Glenn has admirably risen to the occasion. All this reminds me of the Bernstein Black Panther soiree. Those who haven't done so should read "Radical Chic and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catcher". Felicia, clever hostess that she was, solved what could have been a source of embarrassment by ensuring all the servants were Hispanic.
"I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I am a conspiracy analyst"--Gore Vidal
Did you see him with William F. Buckley's show when Vidal called Buckley a Crypto-Nazi? Buckley responded that he would break Vidal's nose if he didn't take it back. Vidal said, "that would prove my point".
Buckley did not hit Vidal ... at least not on camera.
David Foster Wallace (April 9, 1996). "Feodor's Guide: Joseph Frank's Dostoevsky". The Village Voice. . If you want to get some idea of how Dostoevskian irony might translate into modern U.S. culture, try reading House of the Dead and Tom Wolfe’s “Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers” at the same time.
Totally agree that Greenwald can channel Wolfe, and love that piece. I taught it for many years in a literary journalism class but stopped when social media became so pervasive that my students could no longer focus their attention long enough to get through it. #sad
This revolting Met gala circle jerk perfectly illustrates Adolph Reed's critique of the CRT movement: a huge proportion of the elite attendees are POC -- especially black celebrities. Meanwhile, the handmaidens and butlers are people of every stripe. So racism is solved, right? Because we have proportional representation within each social caste. Now ask the average person growing up in coal miner Appalachia or inner-city Detroit or Los Angeles, black or white or brown, if life is good.
The only silver lining that I can see in this entire disgusting display is that the hyena pack of paparrazzi are also relegated to servant class status.
Holy shit, this hit hard. I've been a subscriber since the day you left the Intercept and launched here, so I'm already right there with ya, but this really hits the nail on the head of an anxiety I can't seem to properly articulate. I live in Brooklyn and have many liberal friends who seem disturbingly OK with new selective enforcement of Covid protocols (BLM protests as valid vs the anti-lockdown people who literally couldn't feed their families...) and cheerful vilification of working class people with different politics.
At least Trump derangement folks were "deranged" and most left-leaning people I knew didn't really bite that bait. With Covid, the level of animosity for the "unclean" people has become unmatched and and creepily accepted by almost everyone. The fact that Obama and AOC types seem invulnerable to criticism is also mystifying. I'm worried. =(
What this stupidity has become is something like a zombie apocalypse movie. The unvaccinated or unmasked are never to be allowed to touch, interact or even live among the elites and "clean" members of the political and ruling class. Interacting with the zombies might cause them to become zombies themselves and be cast out from the inner circle. Modern slavery with a twist.
Working class has now been reduced to an inhuman THING to be feared and controlled lest they infect the AOC's and Nancys of this world. Wear your mask, stay inside and don't ever touch me. Like old India we now have our own untouchables.
Just do what you are told and don't ever expect to be considered as an individual after all you are just a zombie serving and working before being confined to your home when not serving. Soon vaccine passports will be the order of the day. Like East Germany carrying "papers" will be necessary to even travel within your own country. Flying on an airplane will require a mask, vaccination proof and a good reason for leaving your designated ZONE of residence.
The American Revolution was started over much less than the current abuses being heaped on us by our elected officials. Wonder if the DNA of our forefathers has been so weakened that all this has become the cost of living within or "modern" society.
The masks on the plebs do just that. They make us face less zombies there to serve. Otherwise we do not exist.
The behavior of the elite is becoming more and more sociopathic.
Let's hope and pray that there are more sane folks than brainwashed. Although in places like NY and Oregon where Im from, living among the Dem sheep makes it seem like there are more who love being Dem slaves than not.
Wish I could move to Florida.
We’d love to have you!
Moved from NYC to fly about 3 years ago and it was like moving to another country. Love it here and the politics is not monolithic but reasonably sane and the communities diverse and very "get along go along." Can't believe I wasted so many years in that overhyped and mean City. Florida is just conducive to a good life for workers and retired individuals. Most individuals are cooperative and helpful and the politicians seem to pay attention to the wants and needs of the voters.
Where is this idyllic place you moved to? Florida?
Not really idyllic just compared to NYC and that environment That may be said about many places NOT as large and dedicated to bureaucracies for running their very large and wasteful gov'ts. The problems in delivering services and responding to voters concerns goes up exponentially as gov't grows bigger and less accessible. I've lived in a few places since leaving NYC and all have been much better that the Big Apple. With Florida the weather is a plus outside the usual political considerations.
Just moved from Oregon to South Dakota. I recommend it.
You have a wonderful governor and that has made all the difference there during this chaos. Advice on living there appreciated. Please.
Relocating is easier now than it ever has been, I think. I just set up job search engines to find jobs in my field in SD, and when a job popped up that I was qualified for, I applied. The first set of interviews was via Zoom, and they flew me in for the second round (though he gave me the option, if I had been familiar with the area, we could have done the second round through Zoom as well). Buying or even renting a house is similar. We made an offer on a house that we had only seen via video tour, but when I saw it in person, no surprises (so far). There is not much inventory (at least in Western SD), but the homes here are still somewhat less expensive than in many other places. It's an undertaking, for sure, but well worth it, I think.
FL is okay. I was in FL several times this year and many hotels and retail establishments were requiring masks, had substantially reduced services, and it did not feel much different to me than other parts of the country.
For me, the article didn't make a case for the great disparity between the haves and have nots when it comes to Covid mandates. It came across as gossiby, and even the pictures didn't make his case. That being said I am very well aware of the inequities that exist in America, like 1 % owns well over 40 percent of our country's wealth. I live in New York, and I know if you go into stores now, or are in close proximity to people you now have to wear a mask due to the delta variant. Those photographers were on top of each other, and they should be masked. I know two people who died of Covid and maybe that changes my perspective on things, although I don't harbor the hate so many feel for those who don't get vaccinated, or who have opposing points of view.
Im sorry you lost people you love to Covid but that is no excuse for what is being done now. This virus is NOT what we have been told. My family and I have had the Rona. We got it here again when my VAXXED Son in law brought it home from work. We all survived. 40 MILLION have caught and recovered from Covid. It is not an emergency, tens of thousands DIE every year from the FLU and because we did not die, or become seriously ill I began to QUESTION all the bullshit out of MSM and research in places away from MSM aka Indie media.
I learned that the PCR test is a fraud. It was never meant to be used to diagnose illness. You are free to research Kerry Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test. The CDC had the test running at between 35-42 cycles which guarantee 90% false positives. This was so the could justify their asymptomatic bullshit.
It was a brilliant plan as they convinced an entire country of healthy people that they were sick with ZERO symptoms. It is INSANE
The CDC recently announced that they will stop using THE PCR test in December because it can't tell the difference between the FLU and the Rona!!
This is OUTRAGEOUS behavior, but will not change as long as the majority can be scared into compliance and giving up their civil liberties
Don't let your loved ones deaths be in vain.
Please research. .
I understand your position, trust me. My brother died of AIDS, young, in the 1980's, and misinformation was wide spread. Someone recently informed me on this site that Fauci was highly responsible for putting forth the idea that AIDS might be easily contracted which turned out to be false. He related this information prematurely to the press and they ran with it, since fear sells. For AIDS patients in hospitals their lives were a living hell. Nurses, some doctors, aids, etc wouldn't even come into their rooms to attend their needs. Ambulette services became unavailable, and if you didn't have a supportive family that kept on top of things you very well may have died of neglect. It is a period in our history where many in the medical profession have a lot to feel ashamed of.
Fauci is responisble for millions of AIDS deaths. It is in a documentary on this that is coming out.
Aids patients got drugs from Mexico because Fauci wouldn't approve them here. He's abominable.
They convinced an entire world. And then in hospitals in the US they put them on respirators and gave them a deadly drug resdesivir (sp?) which had 2 clinical trials. One for Ebola where they all died and another for Covid where so many died they stopped the study. Fauci MANDATED it for all US bpeople admitted to hospital in US to receive it and be put on respirators. This stopped kidney function and they died. Mass murder as Fauci knew the murderous history of this drug.
What you say MIGHT be possible. Did COVID patients actually die as a result of the virus or was it malpractice on the part of the medical establishment? That might be impossible to determine since the profession has a very vested interest in propagating the story that COVID killed 100% of those admitted to and died hospitals. Like EVERY profession the medical bureaucrats act in concert to protect their turf and hide their incompetence.
Having Fauci in charge is the equivalent to having a pedophile running a kindergarten class because he is a certified teacher. Fauci has many, many conflicts of interest and connections to people responsible for funding this pandemic and yet he is still the face of the gov't's response and advises the POTUS. After all that is said and done why anyone would trust and follow gov't edicts is beyond reason. How any intelligent person is shocked by all this just shows the total lack of critical thinking skills in the general population. The political class itself is part of the problem with their blind faith in "experts" because they seem incapable of making their own determinations or inquires outside the bubble of D.C. bureaucracies and agencies.
Hi, I am a doctor. I take care of ICU patients on a regular basis. You are wrong. Over the last almost two years, it has become extremely clear in ways that are obviously quantifiable and apparently anyone with an actual job in healthcare that COVID-19 is a more virulent disease than influenza. This means its causes more severe disease in infected people than influenza does, both in terms of the % of patients who die from the disease, as well as the severity of the symptoms of patients who survive, and the overall burden of chronic sequelae (long term health consequences) associated with infection. This information is quite readily available on free to access medical journals indexed on Pubmed. These claims are not remotely controversial in the medical sphere. That you make such claims in the face of clear, abundant evidence to the contrary is truly confusing to me.
For me the 'have' vs. 'have not' was clearly exhibited with the celebrities not being masked. Masks are supposed to protect others, and there are certainly handlers that were close enough that the celebrity could be transmitting to the handler, even if the celeb was vaxxed. It just doesn't hang together when the powers that be are directing us vaxxed plebes to mask up too, but not doing the same for the elites. I, too, am visually struck by this, I am now seeing these pictures all over the place - and the minute I see the mask I think 'servant', when in the past I wouldn't have noticed the support staff as servants, I would have seen them as just part of the event.
When I mask up I see it as I'm protecting me. I know that even though vaccinated I can pick up the delta variant from someone, and if I should harbor it and I come into contact with someone not vaccinated I could transmit it to them and give them Covid. I saw the photographers, so close together as protecting themselves and each other. Those that waited the tables at Pelosi's affair were protecting themselves. Even as a kid I never saw the rich, or the famous as somehow special, in fact a whole lot of famous people throughout history were bas*tards, and they do die like everyone else.
But that's a mistake. If one assumes that masks are to protect the wearer (as all who object to masking as an infringement of their freedom do) then the arguments that masks are useless (or so close to useless that not wearing them is a rational risk assessment given the discomfort the cause) are valid. As the signs at my university say "My mask protects you, your mask protects me." The whole point is that masks impede the circulation of exhaled droplets that carry the virus from the wearer if the wearer is infected (whether asympotomatic or pre-symptomatic or even with light symptoms mistaken for a cold or allergies).
In terms of Pelosi and Newsom's get togethers they were called out on that, and the double standard.To tell you the truth if I had to come in contact with all those maskless people I would want a mask, but what would bother me is having to serve them.
The Newsom and Pelosi clips, yea they are unmasked and those serving them are, double standard, but they have been called out on that. The other clips, well the photographers are on top of each other and should be masked for their own protection. At the event with AOC the patrons that attended this event did maintain some distance. I'm not defending them, trust me. Look at it this way, they were protected from those slime balls who were unmasked and may have Covid. I have never, not even as a kid, been impressed by the rich and the famous. I was raised by a mother who was a socialist, so believe it.
you are the low-caste about whom glenn writes. it's too bad you don't recognize yourself in this very clearly drawn story, and in the innumerable photos everywhere all the time. enjoy your servitude. AOC will not be attending your thanksgiving tofurkey mask-required sad-fest this year, sorry.
I am not low class. or of low caste, and If Mr. Greenwald believes that he's an ass, and I serve no one. If AOC turns up at my Thanksgiving tofurkey I'll kick her ass out.
I just have to ask you a few questions. How old were the people you knew who died? Were they diabetic, obese, on meds, etc? And I would like to know if they ate gluten and GMO FREE and I am betting not. Were they ever smokers or daily drinkers and did they work out most days? All these things have to bee considered when making a conclusion. Not just FEELINGS!
One was a friend's mother who was overweight and did have a number of medical conditions including left sided heart failure. She was in her 80's, Also someone we knew, in his 60's, who had health issues related to working in the area where the Twin Towers went down. Neither one was young and healthy, but if it weren't for Covid they still would be here. My friend's father also contracted Covid, also in his 80's, but no underlying heart or lung issues and he survived.
I am just a critical ex researcher. Variables are important. And actually they didn't die of Covid, they died of their health issues. Too soon perhaps as our BIg Pharma can extend lives for a price these days. The regular flu would probably have done the same.
I guess I am just wanting to explain to people that making judgments based on ignoring variables tends to restrict your thinking. Do it often and youb just become one of those persons who does not think clearly. They always seem to not like me either.
Masking in a closed space makes sense if someone present is in a high risk group. Masks are to impede the circulation of exhaled droplets that carry the virus. They protect others from the wearer, not the wearer from others. That's part of the dynamics Glenn is highlighting: the bien pensant elite are protected from the hoi polloi by the staff wearing masks while they, themselves, apply the same reasoning that the vilified "anti-maskers" use -- if it doesn't protect me, I'm not going to wear it. These performatively sensitive elites don't care a whit if the working class folk who staff their galas catch the disease from them, after all, they're just little people, deplorables, who probably voted for Trump.
I wish I could get somewhere else also. And most are brainwashed and I am just the messenger
Like India... wow spot on.
I said OLD India. Have no idea of cultural norms today in India.
I dont want to know. I loved the Old India.
I don't buy it Jane, you pretend to know high officials and that you have been to China and India.
I don't believe you.
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Why would it be important to me if you believed me or not. They weren't high officials in 1990. My gf was a beautician in Singapore whose mother was born on Hainen Island and ran with her husband to Malasia away from the Japanese. She let her daughter but took her son. My friend was born in Singapore after her mother ran from the Japanese again coming into Melasia. In Singapore when they came there was nowhere else to go. Her sister reamined in China and her husband was in charge of the island as an "enterprise zone." He may have been a big deal but did not come across as one at all. Some children threw stones at me on a walk I made because I had blue eyes and they had been warned against "blue eyes!" There's more to the story but not for you.
Yes I understood. Not being critical of current day India was agreeing with the “untouchable” reference.
Yes go for the very worst in the past and then compare with now. Ignorant thinking.
Nice catch
Nice catch.
I wonder if this will finally awaken class consciousness. I think the country could use a Terror.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
Yes. China wears the mask of communism concealing the REAL of capitalism. The US wears the mask of democracy concealing the REAL of totalitarianism that used to be creeping totalitarianism but now is running amok.
It is going to get one.
We have sunk into comfortable living and are soft and needy and addicted to so many things
Americans have a lot to lose, materially speaking. As such, they are afraid to do anything that could jeopardize their comfortable living, their cushy job at their woke employers, their SUV and their kids soccer career. They are also terrified to be socially ostracized. In summary, Americans are largely cowards. And so it goes.
They are today. And I know the reason. The design of the country was unique... based on libertarian paternalism. It is now a socialist matriarchy. The former was determined to be free and to pursue self interests to advance. We were the risk-takers. But the matriarchy abhors risk. It pursues the illusion of perfection... which then always becomes the enemy of the good.
Meh. Your labelling is unnecessary.
All you need to know is that hard times make strong men. Strong men make soft times. Soft times make weak men. Weak men make hard times.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Yes, I would lose the "paternal/maternal" label/reference, but M. J Boone is otherwise spot-on. You, M. Karen, are just as eloquent, imo (although some will not understand that you mean "human" when you write "men," and it would sound so less eloquent if you had used the former!), in describing the vicious cycle from which we Classical Liberals (i.e. Capitalists, despite its continued mis-attribution even here, in this otherwise wisdom filled forum) forever desire and deserve exit.
And so it goes as Vonnegut was wont to say.
Bingo.
In two of the pictures a slew of photographers are almost on top of each other, and under such circumstances it is mandated that due to the delta variant even vaccinated people should wear masks. In the clip with AOC at the Met the people in attendance seem to maintain some distance between each other, and no one in the video clip is wearing a mask. In the Jennifer Hudson clip even if no one was wearing a mask it smacks of royalty. As far as Pelosi and Newsom are concerned they have been called out on their behavior and the double standards they impose.
We waste our time on this double standards when it changes nothing but just gives us trendy up to day gossip to spout.
Gossip was a good word in reference to this article. Don't misunderstand, I think very highly of Greenwald and appreciate the work he does, but not this article. It came across as gossiby, with relatively little meaning, nor did it substantiate the very significant differences in the lives of the haves and the have nots in America.
That's like complaining that Tom Wolfe was gossipy - the tone was intentional and for effect; Glenn was embracing THEIR way of talking to illustrate the utter hypocrisy of their claims of moral superiority.
Excellent observation.
Maybe. That's a nice reading BTW. I like it.
I'm not complaining about Greenwald, just this article. The pictures did not validate what he was saying. Those slew of photographers on top of each other should be wearing masks and that Jennifer Hudson photo, well, even if her entourage weren't wearing masks they would look quite, no very subservient, and Pelosi and Newsom were called out on their hypocrisy. I grew up in Manhattan for a while and from an early age became aware of the disparity of wealth in this world, not to mention my mother was a socialist.
GG was commenting on IMAGE and what it might signify. Or NOT.It evolved into more than he thought I think.
I'm in MO ared state where it isn't too bad but bad enough. The buses and libraries are the worst. Nazi mask police everywhere.
You don't want to be Bill Murray in this movie...
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-masking-of-the-servant-class/comments#comment-2885894
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lmao, M. Iamo! (Sorry, I couldn't resist, and you've probably heard it before.)
Is your reference to the Bill murry character in the movie adaptation of City Of Ember?
As generations roll on the past is forgotten. No need to resort to genetics. Few are courageous at all anymore. And men turn on women, and women turn on men and I dont mean sexually.
To clarify the message, replace "unvaccinated," "anti-vax," "anti-government," "insurrectionists," with "infidel." To get a taste of late 1930s Germany replace with "undesirables" and "Jews." We are witnessing scapegoating going to scale as the entire Western economy teeters on collapse, supply lines die, resources dwindle, and the ruling classes freak at their looming irrelevance. The know they will soon have no value--and this is good news for the rest of us who remain firmly grounded in a three-dimensional world.
Your comparison is bullshit. Most of the freedumb luvin’
antivaxxers(many “Christians”) are the same knobs that followed America-Firster Chucky Lindberg, Father Coughlin, and the like, in blocking Jewish immigration(escape) before and during WW2.
I don't believe most are "anti-vaxxers", they are fine with vaccines that have been fully tested and peer reviewed and have a history of efficacy (mumps, flu, chicken pox etc.) This particular vaccine is novel, has not been rigorously tested. It also has certain side effects that are riskier to certain people than COVID itself. Also, why mention Christians? The point here is to not vilify people or groups of people. BTW, FDR had no interest in rescuing European Jews so you could lay the blame on the dem party prog left in power at the time. For what it's worth.
I think we all ought to start wearing YELLOW STARS! That would have been too close to the bone for AOC. Messing up a designer's dress was cool. For her. Not me.
Indeed! I agree. Notice how the. Elite love to weaponized the word unvaxxed and then DEHUMANIZE us without ONCE saying WHY we might be hesitant. They don't want anyone to know.
History will be VERY unkind to those who are committing crimes against humanity and violating the Nuremberg code of informed consent
These times are awful. The older you are the farther back you experienced freedom that is lost.
Why do you assume those who don't want the jab are antivaxxers? This irritated the shit out of me. It is better to assume that we are NOT anti vax on the whole but rather THIS vaccine t hat has killed a RECORD 14,000 people and permanently disabled 600,000 MORE.
9,000 CHILDREN have been permanently disabled, 14 are DEAD and 500 have MYOCARDITIS
The difference between rabid pro vaxxer and US anti THIS vaccine is that we are CRITICAL thinkers and have DONE our homework while the pro vax crowd is busy listening to CORRUPT AND HIGHLY COMPROMISED health officials and politicians in BED with Big pharma. There is no better definition of FASCISM than the Democratic party and their EUGENICS program funded By BILL GATES, A EUGENICIST
After surviving a serious bout of cancer last year, I DO NOT wish to play Russian Roulette with MY life, so that a few brainwashed Dem voters feel safe.
Thank you. I got the flu vaccine last year—like I usually do. My children are all up to date on their vaccinations. But this vaccine? No way. Those who have just a basic understanding of science can see that large swaths of the population should not be taking it.
Thank you, Brian.
I have a friend whose 12 year old Son got the jab. I literally BEGGGED her not to do it but she wouldn't listen. He wound up with MYOCARDITIS. I love how MSM has down played this infection. But it is extremely dangerous and has killed 14 kids already and 500 more have this illness. My friends son has to take 6 different meds for six months. He can have ZERO physical activity and will be at risk for arrhythmia heart attack and stroke the rest of his life..
My friend got a HUGE wake up call as the doctors REFUSED to acknowledge that it was the jab that did this. I can't tell you how many this is happening too. Its as if doctors are onboard this scam. She finally found a doc to treat her Son RELUCTANTLY. She had also endured emotional and verbal abuse from former Dem friends if hers when she shared what happened to her Son.
You are so wise to think of your children, Brian. I mean that from my heart.
We’ll, your friend’s son is doing better than my cousin’s friend: he’s dead. Died of a heart attack two days after his second dose. I don’t know how often people in their 20’s die of a heart attack, but I suppose it *could* have been a coincidence.
I have Charcot Marie Foote syndrome which is not well understood. It has neuropathic associated problems with it that I have discovered on my own. I suspect Eric Clapton is afflicted in some way as the vaccine paralyzed his hands and feet. so no more guitar! However it did go away. But I connected what happened to me and someone else I heard about so do not want to take that chance. I will kill myself first. This vac does stir up latent genetic DNA that can surface and really hurt you. So I think if you are seriously afraid you may not know why but pay attention to the feeling. Something in you is warning you.
amen.
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I’m pretty sure all those “free dumb living” people you speak of from WWII have long since passed from this earth. I’m not sure you can prove any of those people way back in the 40’s we’re “antivaxxers” either. Basically your statement makes no sense, and has no relevance to anything. You sound like a typical leftist hack thumbing your nose at people that could possibly have a different worldview than you. You actually are a perfect representation what greenwald spoke of in this piece. A liberal hack.
Well actually there were a lot of anti vaccers then. My mother - who was born in 1899 - blamed her little brothers death on a Small Pox vaccination. She wasnt going to let me go to Kindergarten because I had to get vaccinated for Small Pox in order to go. All the kids came down the back alley after the first day. I was outside wondering where everyone was. They had been to SCHOOL Band I wanted so much to go! Then my mom told me why." (actually she lied and said because I was so little she was keeping me home another year.)n "But," I said, "Beverly, my best friend was born on the same day I was so I am old enough." She never could stand against my demands so I got to go a week later after my shot. So I entered late and so I watched intently what the others were doing as they had already learned and I wanted to be competent. My future husband was in my kindergarten!
Hey, asshole, my vax (had covid) works better then yours.
I had the Rona too. My whole family had it and then my VAXXED son in law?brought home the ""DELTA" variant.
What it really is is a COLD. That's what Corona viruses are.
MSM makes cases sound so many and so scary.
It's funny, liberals will screech at you all day about how many are dead from the scary cold. But ask them how many are dead from the spike protein jab and they completely freak out lol!
The answer is THEY DONT KNOW.
Your point? Hope you say healthy, Superman.
The point is natural immunity is many times more effective than vaccination:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762
Maybe you can explain why someone with natural immunity should get vaccinated. Lord (of lying) Fauci could not:
https://twitter.com/TheEliKlein/status/1436387479469404164?s=20
“ The point is natural immunity is many times more effective than vaccination…” If one survives the illness.
I have had 3 friends die of covid. None from “the flu”.
Covid is the ONLY vaccination, other than for shingles, that I’ve had in 72 years(other than shots wile in the military). I filtered the info I’ve searched out, and decided that this one is really nasty.
His point is that you are an asshole.
And this response of yours points out you are an ignorant anti-science type.
By antivaxxers (your spelling, not mine) do you mean PhD's? I imagine someone as well-read as yourself knows they are the most vaccine-hesitant group.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/americans-with-phds-are-most-reluctant-to-get-vaccinated-against-covid/ar-AANjRHh
Nice catch. He gives himself away tho by his language.
That would be a clever comeback if NBC and the Wall Street Journal hadn't both done deep dives into the true demographic breakdown of those who have not gotten vaccinated (it's not who you think, or at least wish, it was). And, no, I'm not going to post links - even you should be able to figure out how to use a search engine.
You are partly right and a great deal wrong. Many idiotic people have gotten vaxed.
You are right. See my comment below to this bully.
How old are they now, these people who blocked the refugees and immigrants of WWII? Where are they?
Their spawn are around.
No they are not. But the spawn of Mao never go away. Just check the mirror.
Hate to tellyah, but the present Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, Chrystia Freeland, a liberal by the way, is a granddaughter of a scumbag Ukrainian Nazi. So, yeah…the spawn is still around.
Joycer Carol Oates has written a novel about one family. It is excellent. The Gravediggerds Daughter. I once had a 3rd grader in my class whose mom had just been admitted to the mental hospital as school started. She had tried to commit suicide. She told me later that she had been on the last Jewish ship out of Europe -nGermany was it? - and had spent the rest of her life asking herself "Why me? Why was I saved?" Heavy.
Dead of Covid from being warehoused.
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You sir just want revenge don't you? You've been a partisan hack for over 70 years and now you get to watch your enemy squirm. You're loving this tyranny. You're the good German.
Gee, aren't you just a titan of intellect. Did you like temporarily decamp from Twitter to come grace us with your best attempt at a paragraph?
Well there were a lot of them and if you read Dos Passos USA they were in that book.
Wasn't directed at you.
Yes and that was then. Think genealogically and see that it is not going to end.
They have already learned about the bad effects from the shots. News travels fast in the black community. They tell each other the new benefits, where to get this or that, THEY SHARE! They aolready know about bad efects of this SO-CALLED VACCINATION!
CDC VAERS, UK yellow card system are widely available for anyone to read
Keep in mind that VAERS only captures 1-10% of all jab deaths and injuries
14,000 are now DEAD from that jab. Black people have been the target of US eugenicists in the past with the TUSKEGEE experiment.
They are SMART and well researched.
Yes they learn from their history and then act on it.
can you link to where you’re getting your numbers from?
i’ve just learned tonight that the fda approved vaccine Cominarty is different than the version under the EUA, though the differences aren’t enumerated.
https://heavy.com/news/comirnaty-vs-pfizer-vaccine-legally-distinct/
I’m trying to cull together as much information as I can.
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The left has their “Jew” and they are coming for them.
Health Care Is A Human Right(TM), but people I disagree with (the unvaccinated) aren't humans, so they shouldn't get treatment.
Therein lies the truth of any left-wing principle: it only applies to humans, and people who disagree are not humans.
The "left" now is being hit with hypocrisy that theyb must find a way to defend for themselves. so now defense mechanisms are coming into play and they do screw it all up.
Oh dear. I say horrible things about New York. I mean them.
But I know there are many nice folks like yourself too.
You should be alarmed, not worried.
Peace and love.
I think the derangement is on both sides, the trick is to not get lured into any left or right derangement yourself!
Thats not going to work this time. Authoritarians are on the march and you will have to pick a side.
Have you read 'Woke Inc.' by Vivek Ramaswamy? He addresses a lot of this in his book, as to how financial/business intersect with our culture. It's easy to read and understand. (Finance & business are not my strong suits). Give it a tumble.
Terrifying
Yes wear a mask and pin a YELLOW STAR on your T-Shirt. Better yet screen a yellow star on it. Together they make a statement. Now if AOC had worn one to the Met Ball THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A - OK for AOC to do! Naw, she's not enough of a PARRHESIASTES to do THAT!
It is just insanity becoming normal and now institutionalized. AOC is already outdated. A few years ago what she did would have been revolutionary. Today it is not. SPEED is the new theoretical perception to be coupled with rationality and reason which are disappearing into the void below.
Kate, I agree. I still come back to read this every couple of week. Glen did great work on this one.
THANK FUCKING GOD I don’t live in a big city. Especially not one like NY. Dude, I’ve been horrified hearing and watching. Idk what all you got going onor on or owe or what sills or whatever but if I were in any big city like that I would sell everything and run! As far into the country as possible. Things are still mostly normal here. Kinda. Funny enough the state liquor store will not sell you poisonous liquor if you don’t wear a mask. But thankfully in most other places, except like hospitals n banks n gov buildings etc, there’s a pretty good mix of masked n not. I would like to see a lot less ppl make because it just illustrates how poorly educated and ignorant a lot of us are. But still, definitely better than where you’ve been for almost a couple years. I can’t even imagine. I’m imagining you’re in one of the city burrows btw, in the thick of it.
That’s what they want the residents to do: leave. The “Great Reset” psychopaths behind all of this want to de-densify the cities.
Idk what all you’ve got going on, or what you own or owe or what skills you have but…..
The original version got more flow to it...
I hate autocorrect lol
I guess that "Tax the Middle and Upper Middle Class but Definitely Not the Truly Rich" would not have fit on her dress.
“This shit worked for Barack” would’ve been a bit gauche. Maybe next year.
Barack is much taller.
LOL
Very nice comment
And tax the lower-upper class. The mega-wealthy will always be able to plan around these taxes. This will be welfare for tax lawyers and accountants; there will be a whole new category of people who need to make aggressive tax avoidance plans to avoid income taxation of their capital gains on their death.
The Estate and Gift Tax is separate from the Income Tax. Right now, you really don't have to worry about fed taxation (Estate and Gift Tax) of your estate on your death if it is under $10 million (there is an exemption for estates up to $11.6 million but you have to start worrying about reporting, compliance, and possible enforcement as you estate gets close to that amount). Many states tax estates at a lower level. But under Biden's proposed plan, when you die, your estate will have to pay INCOME TAX on the property in your estate if your estate is over $1 million (married couples over $2 million). This means that tens of thousands (perhaps millions) of moderately well off people will have to worry about their heirs getting a hefty income tax bill.
it means that when family farms are passed on, most likely, it will result in them being sold to cover the tax bill (thus incurring more taxes), and guess who's going to be buying... blackrock. there's around 35 trillion dollars in inheritance destined to be transferred to millenials over the next couple decades. it's no coincidence democrats are seeding these kids to vote away their parents inheritance.
You would not believe the number of younger people who voted Biden and potentially voted away their future prosperity should this legislation pass. Best to get on the horn to Manchin and Sinema, the only two Dems that can stop it.
The real issue is that Biden campaigned on doing this, and most had no idea prior to voting or even know now.
And Blackrock will never "die" and have to pay these taxes, only farmers, their families and other small business owners. Whoever Blackrock's lobbyist is apparently is doing an amazing job getting Biden to do everything possible to hurt small businesses and benefit very, very big business. Related this the Dems who want to "tax the rich" yet are trying to give a tax break to the rich by getting rid of the $10K state and local tax deduction limit. People at that level of SALT taxes are basically rich, or darn close to it. Yet they are spending their time trying to figure out how to give them a tax break. You can't make this stuff up.
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Bill Gates is the number one owner if farm land in the US..
You know, the eugenicist who wants all the slaves vaxxed, his depopulation plans realized and for the rest of us to NEVER eat meat but learn to love plant based meats (filled with nasty chemicals) and BUGS.
There are still family farms?
In any case, this is easily taken care of by exempting farms under certain conditions. They were, in the past, and might still be. Incidentally, it brings up an awkward point: farmers are capitalists - even though a family-operated farm is worker owned and therefore an example of socialism. Categories get complicated. (Full disclosure: I grew up with a "family farm" my family hadn't operated in 3 generations. It was ultimately sold to a corporation. Nobody was real happy with that.)
Actually there are. Some of them quite large, some more a hobby with the farmer also having a "day job" in a nearby town or city. (I write from Kansas.)
Drivel. My god shut up with this shit. It’s a literal Koch talking point
As someone in the industry, I can tell you the talking point is describing reality. Believe what you want, though.
Which "industry"? Do you work in industrial agriculture, or in tax evasion?
In any case, you're wrong in saying that the talking point is "describing reality". The talking point is, in fact, designed to keep people from seeing the optimal solution, which (as several of us have pointed out) is to tax heavy inherited wealth while exempting family farms.
I worked on a family farm, and now I work to sell seed to farmers. The taxation you propose is what has destroyed small businesses (including family farms), and is supported by the corporations you lament. However, this isn't just for farms, you would prefer AOC, Donald Trump, and Biden to get the family restaurant, the family house, and whatever family business, rather than allow the children to keep their parents possessions and businesses running. Shame on you.
Family Farms can be limited by acreage. Too sensible so it will nevr happen
calling arguments drivel and telling people to shut up is a literal soros talking point.
And smallish family owned businesses as well. It isn't only farms that get destroyed by this. People will try to find ways around this. Any number of people will be hurt by this. There will be no point in working hard to help provide for your children. That will cripple American ingenuity and innovation. These people have a complete inability to think in a logical, rational way, and apparently never ask "What happens next?" when they propose these things.
Oh, but they won't do that. The current Left hates small business: they want everyone to be employed by oligarchs so they can be the protectors of the populace, rather than impediments to people getting ahead by their own efforts.
That was made clear during the pandemic. This would just help hasten the monopolization of business, and eliminate competition and innovation. The Deep State has been helping to enable the big corporations for years.
Yeah, that "family farm" stuff is largely a fake talking point from lobbyists for a small elite that fears the estate tax and wants to protect their hereditary class privilege.
I posted an older receipt. Heritage has a report from 2004...
Statist bullshit.
They want to protect their hard-earned and well-preserved Capital for those they choose, in their own judgment, as deserving.
You want to decide that for them. That is immoral, as is ALL wealth transfer FORCED by Statist leeches like yourself.
The *family* farm nonsense is utter bullshit, Timothy.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/ten-facts-you-should-know-about-the-federal-estate-tax
democrats like to say things like this, then wash their hands while the politicians they vote for do the opposite.
Exactly this. This will literally eliminate class mobility in this country, probably exactly what they want. I work with this class of people, most of us came from upper lower and lower middle class, played by the rules, studied and worked hard, went into growing fields like tech and started to amass a small amount of family wealth (this spans multiple races too). And now it is all gone. People are starting to wake up, but tragically it is too late.
It's awfully ironically ironic. Leftists democrats complain that blacks and minorities should get reparations for missing the opportunities afforded whites throughout history, while simultaneously voting to keep those benefits from being passed on to their children. It is exactly what they want. Leftists don't educate, inspire, or persuade, they humiliate. This way, truth doesn't actually matter, the only thing that matters is that *you* shut up when *they* say you're wrong. It's a communist propaganda technique.
And that is the only solution if the progressives want to fund their welfare wish list, which can't be done by taxing the rich and corporations alone. Scandinavia does provide many more welfare benefits to its citizens; but their citizens are taxed far more than Americans.
Basically 50% of Americans don't pay any taxes. That isn't sustainable for a growing welfare society.
50 percent of Americans do not 'pay any taxes". They don' t pay federal income tax. They still pay sales tax (a regressive tax on the poor Btw) and payroll taxes. They are also possibly paying property taxes or other government fees.
It's true that our tax system is extremely dumb and unsustainable, but let's not make up stuff about it.
There is no federal sales tax. Payroll taxes generate eligibility for future SSI payments and people that don't reach the AGI threshold for payroll taxes are (unless they die early) net receivers of SSI payments. He's right. 50% of Americans largely do not pay federal income tax or fund federal government services, though they contribute a portion of the funds they will themselves receive back in SSI payments.
He didn't say "federal taxes", and if he had I would not have replied. He said "50% of Americans don't pay any taxes." It's right there in the post I'm replying to. Which is manifestly untrue, and hence the clarification.
IF you pay more then you are not using the loopholes available to you. Trump did and they hated him for doing what they did and exposing it.
Absolutely not true. If you are a w-2 wage earning married couple living in a major metro area after 20 years of working in a corporate job or medical/legal profession, it's not that hard to hit $450k / year. Outside of a small mortgage interest and charitable deductions, there are NO loopholes. And god forbid your company give you stock options as part of your compensation, I can't tell you how many people I know that were wiped out financially paying AMT on exercised stock options that were later on worth nothing due to market volatility.
They also receive money for nothing via earned income, child tax and other credits. Many of those not paying income tax receive many other benefits like housing assistance and food stamps. Whatever small amount they kick in on state and local sales tax is more than offset by other mechanisms.
Only 11 percent of people ages 25 - 55 don't pay federal income taxes. The non-paying people we are talking about are the old and the very young - the vast vast majority of working age people are paying federal income taxes. And btw, that 11 percent that doesn't pay federal taxes? Nearly one-third will do so for only one year, and almost 6 in 10 will be paying income tax within three years, and just one-in-eight are non-payers for a decade or more. The idea that there's this huge segment of working people who are laying around for years on end getting government services while paying nothing in return is a Reaganite fantasy.
It isn't going to be a social society. That is just the reset PR. It is going to be a two tiered humanity. The vaccinated are going to end up being enslaved and genome programed to be able to survive in a hostile environment. The unvacced will be in camps if they cant escape to nether regions which drones will probably make impossible.
Not "far" more. A very little more, and they (and we in Central Europe as well) get a lot more for our pooled purchasing power than my countrymen back in the US. Why did Sam's Club and Costco grow? Because people saved by buying in bulk. That is all social democracy is: buying in bulk. We pool our resources for health care. Ergo health care is cheaper and better because we the customer control the market. Same with education, housing markets, etc., etc. You can live much better on a lower income and save money by pooling your resources better (i.e. paying higher taxes).
That being said, the social contract above only works if you don't have legalized political corruption like in the US, where then the rich and big corporations don't pay like they did from the 30's to the 70's before political corruption became legal.
It's over 60% now, actually.
Tax the rich bs only works on morons. Basic math shows there aren’t enough rich people to give everyone cradle to grave everything. You have to tax the middle class to even come close to getting there. And as you do that you siphon away the thing necessary to produce future growth.
Seemed to work OK during the Eisenhower era.
We had very high taxes then. And a huge pent up demand from WWII limited consumer items. No ice cream, no bubble gum, no no no no.................... Clothes were far more expensive then than now. But we hadn't yet fought all those wars in Asia to get access to cheap labor.
You know nearly nothing. Just enough about taxes to pretend that’s what built the middle class. You’re the dangerous breed of fool.
What a know nothing post! Your ignorance is showing.
Religion, Economics, Fashion, and Politics…the Four Horsemen of Quackery in the world.
YUP! :D and on into the 70's ...
Right. Absolutely NOTHING has changed since then.
Yes, you will have to tax the "real" middle classes more too. You need to shut down the "offshore" systems. You need to reduce Wall Street to less than 10% of it's current size. You need to have a Public banking; currently private banksters conjure up the money supply and charge you and even your governments interest on the money they didn't have until you borrowed it and created an asset for them and a debt for you. I could go on but basically the people need to disregard the indoctrination and propaganda and read. YES, I know it's hard but you gotta do it.
who controls the Public Bank?
The national and or state government's. There's been one in North Dakota for a century and it's worked and is working well. From the Fed which is a consortium of private banksters to your local branch; money is created/conjured up from nothing. When you get a mortgage from your bankster; they have about 10% of the money they loan you in reserves (also conjured but that's another lesson); the rest of your mortgage is typed into their computer and your money is created. Your loan becoming an asset for them and a liability for you. To top it off, they charge you interest on the money they didn't have until you had the debt. Now, this sounds fantastical but it's the way " fractional reserve banking work's" somewhat simplified. Now, tell me why the government pays private interest to private banksters when it as a sovereign state could create the money itself. Note the trillions created lately out of nothing but debt obligations.
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hmm - In China they have so called "layered plateaus capitalism" -- research it a bit. Far more humane and equitable...
In China they were introducing capitalism into a stagnant communist system so even a drop of capitalism performed miracles. When you do the reverse it’s all downhill from there because communism does not work. Even the Scandinavian countries the left raves about are lackluster. Self inflicted drag on the system.
I am advocating freedom and democracy -- not communism. We need to agitate for freedom and democracy in – our beloved USA. Although near term hopeless -- I believe in multi-party system, unlike current one party monopoly with two right wings.
China raised 800 million of its citizens - from periodic mass starvation into middle class -- an unprecedented success in human history -- while DNC and GOP oligarchs essentially eliminated middle class in the US.
"53K US contractors in the Middle East versus -- for 35K troops" !!! What a lucrative business and worth unlimited donations to both DNC and GOP politicians. Highlighting just that "detail" -- tells it all....
A 1%-er War party with two right (DNC and GOP) wings -- gay marriage, abortion, "woke", and other imposed topics are just distractions to divide 99% of population into "red" and "blue" camps while 1% happily grunt together at same donors' feeding throughs.
But brainwashed US citizen agitate "freeing" China and increasing hate of Moslems, Russians, Chinese, Martians - just to avoid thinking about our own beloved country. 1%-er overlords are playing us like a violin...
A brilliantly executed divide and conquer strategy by the bi-partisan political elites. It is just mindblowing to me that smart people with some modicum of critical thinking skills can't see this, and continue to applaud our celebrated leaders while they literally take the little we have away from us.
100%! Great comment!
You will absolutely love Veroufakis on this subject. He recent book is #AnotherNow. Many of his interiews are on youtube about it. He proposes a MARKET ECONOMY. Our capitalism is not a market economy. There are endless commodities we dont need at all. We have FINANCIAL CAPITALISM which came into being as Shakespeare was writing Hamlet. (I learned this from Varoufakis.) When the East India Co wanted to grow BIG BIG BIG so the idea of selling shares came into being. Take shares away and restructure and you can get market capitalism with real products or real quality that people can treasure for generations.
Thank you -- wonderful. Another interesting is - Elon Musk:
https://youtu.be/8GHFq4dXBko
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Except the reality is that China has lifted 100's of millions out of poverty .
I think before we criticize China we take a look at our FASCISM first.
Lenin knew that you CANT introduce communism from the top down. It must come form the people, from the bottom up.When Lenin went against what he knew was correct he sealed its doom. The form in Cuba was great in the beginning. Then like all good beginnings it metastasized into bureaucracy. And wonderful little hippie businesses do this. If you want to really understand the possible beauty of communism consider Jesus and his disciples. Or the movie Ema as she begins it. IT CANNOT COME FROM THE TOP DOWN AND BE IMPOSED.
Janet, How about if you start? Distribute your stuff to those in need. Work more, keep less. Let's see how you feel in 10 years.
China knows capitalism is a huge challenge for them. They are trying.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
They are very well read in Marx, Lenin, Stalin and they see our errors and take note.
Have you ever been in China? You have dated imagination...
Paradoxical past, present and future of China's "socialist market" -- Scheer Intelligence
Robert Scheer discusses the paradoxical past, present and future of China's "socialist market" economic model with Nathan Gardels, author of "It Is No Longer Glorious to Get Rich in China," published this week by Noema, a magazine of the Berggruen Institute.
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scheer-intelligence/id1054586928?i=1000534192691
When I was in China in the early 90's I could have secured a virgin beach on the south China Sea. Did you ever see one. Nothing there but beach and water and so incredibly beautiful. The hitch was it was $100,000 and you had to put a hotel there in 5 years. I took a look and so what it would turn into and decided I would not tell my Chinese friend how we could do this as I could not bear to know I was partner to ruining it. The second offer was a meat packing plant. You know like Swift, Armour et al for $90,000. I know nothing about that business but we had driven up Hainen Island and eaten at a number of restaurants. One had a tourist shop a little ways off from the restaurant. As we walked there, pigs came up to walk with us on the dirt path. Sweet creatures that we let lick our plates and petted. We had pork for dinner and I have never tasted anything like it before or since. But oh those sweet young pigs on our walk were like the ones we ate. Put them on an assemblyb line of murder?b And I see the cruelness in my mind. So no thanks. Not me. I should have opened an English school with a young Chinese woman I met there that I loved. And she loved me. I came home to help my family. A big mistake. I am excellent at teaching bAsians especially Englishb writing and conversation. We should have done that. My Vietnamese students did so wonderful in Philadelphia.bNow you must teach it Topfl style. ROTE LEARNING. No thanks.
That was a sweet comment - especially about little pigs. I know several people who, after seeing / interacting with pigs, can't eat them any longer.
Great comment!
How many comments have you made on this forum today Janet?
Randall fucking Rose is gonna getcha!!!
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The higher you tax the rich, the more shelters they search out and use. Lower taxes and they dont bother so much. Paying a tax accountant to do it is not worth it anymore. Time, money and energy gt blown off.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-tax-cuts-federal-revenues-deficits/
You have to read through the good news to get to the figure about corporate tax rates.
Youb. buy the congress critter and get a huge discount on your taxes. Easy Peasy Pie.
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Mucho loopholes in corporate taxes. They buy them of course.
You gotta quit drinking the Kool aid the rich are feeding you. Of course, now your governments are actually their governments. It's the lobbying by the rich and corporations that literally write the law's that make this stuff legal. People make the law's including the constitution and they can change them. The rule of law is a crock; law's didn't come down from the mountains carved in stone by god; they came from the lobbyists of the rich actually writing them and they still do. If you stopped taxing them completely, they would be looking for cash back; Oh wait, they do get cash back now. China, yes the commie's in China are actually making it easier to organize the gig economy and mandating tutoring to be public so everyone gets a chance. Can you imagine that happening in the USA? People need to stop believing the narrative because it's controlled by the Rich. As an old Dutchman once said to me.."think; I know it's hard but try it!"
AynRand had it right. But she didn't know she did. So her disciples are hysterics about unfettered capitalism. IF you had direct elections and voting and only one term for ALL elected offices that would immediately take the money out. Who wants to buy a dead horse in congress who will be gone at the end of her term?
Right. And with one term ahead who would want (be obligated) to do a good job?
Exactly (!)
Term limits would be mere panacea, if they weren't so Statist, anti-freedom, and therefore immoral. The People, at all times must be free and un-fettered to choose their representatives, lest they be absolved of responsibility, and not required to be invested and learn from their errors.
Think? Now we have a few generations who have been educated by No Child Left Behind. ALLOF THEM WERE LEFT BEHIND so now left behind is the new NORMAL and it is now INSTITUTIONALIZED. No that Dutchman was wrong. Thinking is not hard, it is now impossible for most.
So, F'ing true...
They only care about shrinking the overall number of taxpayers as much as possible. If they do that, then the number of people who care about any of their socialist programs shrinks and they can do whatever they want. Our goal should be to have everyone pay something if they can - even if it's a small amount - then, and maybe then, can we get back to some sort of fiscal discipline because more people have some skin in the game.
We are out of time and so is the planet.
No, but "tax everyone" would.
LIsten to Varoufakis on youtube solve this for you with intelligence, humor, panache, and integrity. bHe is so sexy too.
exaaaactly
There is nothing, NOTHING I hate more than hypocrisy. And this is the best example of why the public doesn't believe anything the ruling class says on the subject. If they are ok not to follow their own edicts, then why aren't we? Something has been bothering me about the whole thing, and Glenn just summed it up beautifully. ❤️
Well said!
I don't know... I hate rape more.
What about hypocrisy pertaining to rape -- e.g. women who accuse Kavanaugh must be believed without question, but women accusing Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, etc... are part of a "vast right-wing conspiracy".
Or vice versa, for that matter.
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I mean... Aren't we all right wing loonies if we don't adhere to the Dem party Big pharma Gates grift??
After this stupid comment, I might hate you more than rape.
Well obviously rape and murder and incest and genocide, etc etc. I meant in politics and social discourse...
Yeah, "NOTHING I hate more than hypocrisy" tends to be an interesting comment.
see above ^^^ i meant in this realm of this discussion.
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Great share!
"Masks" do NOT prevent the transfer of respiratory viruses.
Putting aside the fact that common masks are not medical devices or treatment, they are engineered devices - meaning they have design tolerances and specifications that do not include filtering out viruses as small as the SARS-Covid 2 virus (of any variant.) Why this is so hard for people to conceptualize is confusing. Imagine, a glass of salt water. Imagine putting one of these masks loosely around a straw and putting it into the glass. When you draw up on the straw, what will the water taste like - Distilled water or salt water?
But, that said, ask yourself this about the typical mask you see someone wear:
1) What percent of the air they are breathing in is coming around the mask?
2) Where do the viruses go if they are stopped by the mask?
Like most everything else in this Covid Shitshow, masks are just a compliance exercise of the elites to see who they can control.
It's like thinking a chain link fence will stop mosquitoes from getting through!
Exactly, if you can breathe through it it isn't stopping microscopic viruses.
This whole affair is another draconian fearmongering fairytale/nightmare.
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You're essentially right about the general function that masks serve particularly as described in this article, but the idea that "masks do NOT prevent the transmission of respiratory viruses" based on my understanding evinces the same fundamental misunderstanding of how a virus causes diseases that underlies much of what's gone wrong in this pandemic. Becoming "infected" with a respiratory virus is not the same thing as being exposed to it. Nearly everyone's immune system is capable of fighting off low-level assaults by any kind of pathogenic virus, but by the same token, there is a threshold beyond which nearly everyone's immune system will succumb to that same virus. So preventing infection is not a binary "1/0" question; it's more like a sliding scale that goes from 1 to 1M, and at "1", you don't even notice that you've fought it off and at "1M", your immune system is overwhelmed and you're on your way to the ICU and a vent.
The function of the masks is to keep the exposure level closer to "1" than "1M". Yes, there is presumably quite a bit of leakage through and around the mask, but if you are in an enclosed space for a limited period of time (a grocery store for example) and everyone is in a mask there, the amount of virus in the air will be significantly less than if everyone was unmasked. Much of the time the difference may not be significant enough to matter, but theoretically sometimes it will. But again, this only applies in densely populated enclosed spaces where people are there for limited periods of time. It would be very unlikely to work, for example, to prevent household transmission. And it should be obvious, that it's not going to make a difference outdoors, except possibly in the most extremely crowded situations imaginable.
All that said, to have a gala where the guests are unmasked but the server are masked obviously makes no sense whatsoever from a public health standpoint, and that's why Glenn has correctly pegged it as a "grotesque" display of symbolic power and humiliation.
As it turns out, if this virus were transmitted by droplet, masks might have some efficacy. However, they have now discovered that this virus is not droplet borne but goes out as separate virions, much too small for the mask to do much. So they are pretty much useless, and actual scientific evidence supports this. But our betters ignore that science because it doesn't help their cause.
Yes, it's mostly aerosols against which non-N95 masks are not super-protective, but again, it's a cumulative set of factors: ventilation, amount of time spent in the space, how many people are in the space, how much virus is being put out by the infected person(s) in question, how robust is the immunity of the people being exposed. Universal masking is to me just one factor that in some situations probably reduce the total amount of virus in a given airspace, and so could reduce the chances of an exposure becoming an infection. The thing I don't understand is that it's not all or nothing, it's relative, and given that it's relative, there's no reason to worry about whether everyone is wearing a mask. If there are 50 people there, and 2 or 3 aren't wearing a mask, it's not likely to make an appreciable difference in the overall level of risks, therefore no need to "mandate" masks anywhere, just put out a recommendation and let adults decide for themselves. I say the same thing about everything else relative to COVID, nothing should've ever been mandated because nothing offered absolute protection, it was always just generally reducing the overall risks within reasonable bounds.
We will be stuck with this virus like we are the FLU every year
When I started getting suspicious about this nonsense, I got out my AMA medical encyclopedia and looked up Corona virus.
And the description read exactly like this:.
THE COMMON COLD
Yes, there are already several other coronaviruses in circulation that we call the common cold. I believe that unfortunately CV-19 was created in a lab by altering a bat coronavirus that wouldn't normally be capable of infecting humans and making it into one that can. Bats, living in dank caves as they do, have way stronger natural immune systems compared to humans. I'm not sure that CV-19 will ever regress to become like the other presumably naturally-occuring coronaviruses.
A cumulative set of factors. Like all those plexiglass barriers between tables at restaurants that interrupt the air filtration system and keep viral clouds close to diners?
And now let's consider how people wear masks. I see masks dangling off of car rear view mirrors all the time. I see people pulling them out of their pockets. Are they freshly laundered? That's anyone's guess.
Do people really keep a little bucket of isopropyl alcohol by the door and toss their cloth mask in, then pull it out an hour later and hang it to dry for tomorrow? Or are most people just using the same cloth mask over and over, and sticking it back in the pocket of their unwashed pants?
My sleeve is just as good at blocking droplets from a cough or a sneeze. I've learned to dab my perpetually drippy nose (a curse since childhood) with the back of my wrist.
Meanwhile, I'm being accosted in grocery stores by male Karens who claim my medical exemption puts them at risk, while they agitatedly squeeze a dozen oranges and put them back. And my response to them is, "have you touched your mask since you last sanitized your hands? Just wondering if I want to buy any oranges today."
Yeah, as I say, the protective effect of masks at best in no way warrants anyone getting upset because a particular person isn't wearing a mask in a particular place. It's not that kind of thing, if lots of people wear masks in lots of places, the general rate of transmission in that particular community will likely slow. But any one person doesn't much matter, and it doesn't much matter if everyone wears a mask or if just most people or even a lot of people do.
In my city, when they first mandated masks, they put someone on the radio asking people to be considerate and compassionate to people who were not wearing masks.
Roughly 10% adults, the spokesperson said, have a legitimate health reason to not mask up. Might be a pulmonary or vascular condition, or a mental health condition, but if you see someone without a mask, please don't automatically jump down their throat.
As someone in that category, I was grateful. For that one, never to be repeated, public service announcement.
And don't get me wrong. Staff at most of our local shops were not allowed to enforce a mask mandate. Corporate was like, "ehhhh, don't want to touch this. It's legally dubious. Someone comes in without a mask, offer them one. If they say no, that's the end of the conversation."
Why? Because if you basically force someone to put one on and they brain themselves on a display of dill pickles, you're going to get sued. If you demand proof that they have a medical reason to not wear one, you can get sued for invading their medical privacy. If you refuse them service, you can get sued for discrimination based on disability.
There is literally no way to win for a business. They didn't advertise the policy. If they did, only the people who wanted to wear a mask would wear one. Which is basically fewer than 50% of the customers. Maybe fewer than 30% (which is about the percentage of people who kept wearing after they lifted the mandate over summer).
So there I am in the store, and I'm looking around and I'm literally the only one without a mask. So I'm wondering are there 8 or 10 people in the store wearing masks even though it harms their health, or are the people who can't mask up just under a self-imposed house arrest?
I don't get harassed often, but when I do I just take it in stride.
Incidentally, my city tried to do a "no mask passport" thing. An exemption card. Within 2 weeks, there was a thriving black market for them and they scrapped the program.
You do know that most viruses that we catch are at HOME, right?
When I had cancer and was doing chemo I got sick with a horrifying cold. It went into my chest and I was coughing and hacking like a sick horse.
So I had to wear a mask when I went to chemo while sick. But at NO TIME did they demand that others wear one too. I am very grateful my treatment ended just months before the Rona nonsense started because PROTOCOL would have had me on a vent.
Most people do NOT need a vent. But they are doing it because it kills.
Masks do nothing to stop the spread of a virus. It will stop your sputum from flying out of your mouth of you're sick and coughing but otherwise it is virtue signaling nonsense.
There was an interesting study from some time back where 12 British scientists were overwintering at the British base in Antarctica. That means that for some 6 months or longer, they will have no contact with anyone outside the group there because the planes that supply the base can't get in due to the temperatures and the weather. About three months in one of them contracted a cold which got passed on to some of the others (not all, as I recall.) So the question is, since these people were in good health at the beginning of what one might call the "lock-in," where did this cold virus come from three months later? It calls into question all the accepted ideas about how colds are transmitted.
I agree with you completely about the efficacy of masks - of the right kind, including multi layered cloth ones, properly fitted - there have been multiple studies on this ... The point is to reduce the "dose" of virus one gets. The analogy I have used is a person walking next to a beehive - if a few bees sting you you will be no more than sore (unless you are allergic to the bee venom) but if a whole bunch sting you, you can get really sick.
And you can be infected, and hence be a transmitter, without being sick yourself (remember Typhoid Mary)
But the question is what hypocrisy was Glenn pointing out? Was he saying that the guests didn't believe in masks and saw no need to wear them, so getting the "servants" to wear them was a display of dominance, or did they indeed believe in them and refusing to wear them was a display of total lack of concern for their "inferiors", the ones they purported to care about?
I would like to know if Glenn wears a mask, and if so under what conditions? And if not, why not? Does he believe they work? Has he been vaccinated? And you might say, what does it matter if he does/has or not? It matters because he sets the tone in these posts - is he afraid that if he answers yes, to one or both, he will lose a lot of his supporters who are clearly anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers. And if he answers no - would he say why .... if not, he is feeding fuel to this pandemic fire ...
Yes, I think the bee analogy is spot on. I think the issue the Glenn is pointing out is that we're now into this visibly unequal enforcement of masking requirements based pretty much on social class. I've noticed it myself, I've been to a number of places in the affluent parts of California over the past couple of months, and it's just generally the rule now in these places that the workers wear masks, and the "customers", i.e. those attending a wedding, or dining at a restaurant, etc., do not. It doesn't make much sense from a public health standpoint, if the workers need to be masked, why don't the customers? But the reality is that the customers are paying and so call the shots, and the workers are being paid, and so must follow orders. But it has a very, "rules for thee, but not for me" kind of feel to it, and to me, it's gross.
And who would enforce the rules on the customers - I think there was an incident some time ago when a guy got stabbed for trying to ...
The hypocrisy is the "Do as I say, not as I do" attitude and it has existed for millennia between the peasantry and the aristocracy. The Dems keep preaching that we have moved beyond that yet they behave in the same old ways.
Next the fascist lunatics come with the argument that there was no flu last winter so masks must work. Nevermind that voluntary behavior changes were huge while all scientific tests of masks show no significant benefit.
https://toddwschneider.com/dashboards/nyc-subway-turnstiles/
There was no flu last winter because all "flu" cases were classified as "COVID".
I thought % positive for PCR flu tests was abnormally low, but could be mistaken. Anyway, I'm still bitter about the flu-shot mandate for schools last year in MA, which was later retracted after the vax deadline.
https://www.mass.gov/news/flu-vaccine-now-required-for-all-massachusetts-school-students-enrolled-in-child-care-pre
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/health/mass-students-no-longer-must-get-the-flu-shot-this-year-its-still-recommended/2281400/
The first test performed in the winter of 2020/2021 was a COVID test. As we now know, that test did not distinguish between flu and COVID. If it was positive, they had a diagnosis, and no further testing was done. And generally of the 60 or 70 million people "diagnosed" with flu every year. the diagnosis is only confirmed by laboratory testing in not more than 1.5 million cases. All the rest are "diagnosed" by time of year and symptomology, not by lab testing.
Please don't give them any ideas!
I've already had this conversation with an MD family member. There is no evidence so now we must believe her readings of the tea leaves of life and call them science.
Yeah…we can all see that you’re an ex-spurt.
Of course any test that showed results must, by your definition, be "unscientific", or not replicated umpteen times or not sufficiently peer reviewed, or in "respected journals" as i am sure all yours were ... care to share them?
Sorry, what does your citation have to do with any of this?
The citation shows that behavioral changes, like not taking the subway, can explain why there was no flu. A good mask article is here: https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-evidence
The only RCT to test mask-wearing’s specific effectiveness against Covid-19 was a 2020 study by Bundgaard, et al. in Denmark. This large (4,862 participants) RCT divided people between a mask-wearing group (providing “high-quality” three-layer surgical masks) and a control group. It took place at a time (spring 2020) when Denmark was encouraging social distancing but not mask use, and 93 percent of those in the mask group wore the masks at least “predominately as recommended.” The study found that 1.8 percent of those in the mask group and 2.1 percent of those in the control group became infected with Covid-19 within a month, with this 0.3-point difference not being statistically significant.
The scientific data supporting mask mandates is pretty weak.
The CDC has found that a mask mandates reduce the growth rate of new COVID-19 infections by 1.8% after they have been in effect for 100 days.
I'm not sure what a slight reduction in the case growth rate is supposed to accomplish. All it does is cause the wave to peak a day or two later than it otherwise would have. CDC never said that mask mandates reduced the overall number of infections -- only that they slowed the case growth rate by 1.8% after 100 days.
[Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7010e3-H.pdf -
"During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1, 1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all)."]
Another study published last month found that "There was no reduction in per-population daily mortality, hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator occupancy of COVID-19-positive patients attributable to the implementation of a mask-wearing mandate."
[Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34480194/ ]
Unfortunately, the CDC were too lame to make a randomized study, so we have to rely on the Danish data. That MMWR paper doesn't account for seasonality and intrinsic dynamics of the epidemic, which are the biggest drivers of case growth vs. time, and its main purpose is to highlight the CDC's incompetence.
Instead of at least mentioning this huge limitation, something any self-respecting scientist would do, they just sweep it under the rug. But I'm sure their guidance is totally solid.
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To start with, I've been vaccinated. Since vaccines do save live, I'm hoping that our bought-and-paid-for government won't pull another Tuskegee experiment on us. Time will tell.
In May, "The CDC eased mask-wearing guidance for fully vaccinated people on Thursday, allowing them to stop wearing masks outdoors in crowds and in most indoor settings." Biden claimed, “Today is a great day for America.” https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/ap-source-govt-to-ease-up-guidance-on-indoor-mask-wearing/
In June, "To celebrate the resumption of pre-pandemic life, Biden is looking to celebrate the July Fourth holiday as 'a summer of freedom.'” https://apnews.com/article/government-and-politics-joe-biden-lifestyle-coronavirus-pandemic-health-f97e0316c51d2d8362a17d149daedb14
Less than a week after July 4th, Covid-19 cases begin to resurge. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102816/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-day/
Later in July, as the number of coronavirus cases continue to grow, some conservative influencers (politicians and media) begin to show more support for the vaccine, while some liberal influencers blame the anti-vaxxers.
"The Delta Variant Is the Symptom of a Bigger Threat: Vaccine Refusal " https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/25/health/coronavirus-vaccine-refusal.html
Yeah, I think I read that study - it's description as a RCT is highly suspect - what, precisely, was controlled? 3 layer surgical masks - worn how? Studies have shown that if they leak, around the edges, that is, they don't work so well at all ....
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So tired of doing stupid illogical things!!
Masks don't have to filter out particles as small as viruses. Viruses don't just float around in the air all by themselves, they're in water vapor droplets that people breathe, cough, or sneeze out. You'd know that if you weren't so arrogant that you think you already know it all.
What happens when that moisture evaporates? Contagion city...
Moisture evaporates? The virus dies…no food.
The virus does not immediately die. It takes about 3 hours for that to happen.
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And what is the size of these water droplets? And when they dry out on the mask what happens to the nanoparticle of the "virus"? The next breath you take sucks it into your nose or throat.
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Or out into the air, turning the water-bound virus into an airborne one.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-confirms-that-covid-is-airborne/ar-BB19Jn1Z
Of course this was obvious last year when entire buildings that share central heating were passing the virus between tenants.
What happens when people overestimate the ability of masks to protect and engage in riskier behavior? Contagion city...
Well, if they get vaccinated .. not quite so risky ....
Look at COVID deaths vs. cases for the current US wave. The ratio is 1% and rising, about the same as the winter wave, even though an overwhelming fraction of the most vulnerable are now vaxxed.
A coupla things - the Delta variant has changed the game - much more transmissible, and shows evidence that degree of vaccine efficacy against it vs "the original" is a bit less, the most vulnerable were vaccinated first, and immunity wanes over time ... And the cohort getting sicker and dying is getting younger .... proving more "vulnerable" than first thought
We need better vaccines - in the meantime these are better than nothing. And, in the meantime, sorry, we need to wear masks ....
"the most vulnerable were vaccinated first, and immunity wanes over time"
This is not necessarily the case. I mean, sure, over the course of years or decades, but I don't know of any virus that requires boosters every six months for the rest of your life.
Reinfections are still extremely rare. Breakthrough cases, less rare but still rare.
Is this because immunity is waning?
The spike protein (the sole target of the most popular vaccines) mutated. It's a different protein. And while the antibodies are still able to neutralize it, if your body can't recognize it right away, you're going to have a delayed immune response.
Imagine some guy with long hair and a beard robs your store. A month later, same guy shows up clean shaven with a flat-top. Are you going to recognize him before he's at the register with his gun out? Maybe. Maybe not.
This isn't about immunological memory loss. Your immune system still remembers that guy with the long hair and beard. It's just he doesn't have long hair and a beard now.
They're promoting boosters because the antibodies still work (for now, and probably less well, but well enough-ish) and a booster will make your body generate another batch. After 6 months, they'll be out of circulation, and you'll need another booster.
Now consider this. These vaccines are being paid for by governments, who never run out of other people's money. They're being marked up 2400%, which means every shot is about $50 of pure profit.
And when I say pure profit, I mean pure profit. I'm a fan of limited patent protection for new drugs. Why? Because drug companies invest hideous amounts of money in research and development, and they deserve a temporary monopoly to earn that investment back. But these companies were given billions in grants by the very governments they're now gouging to the tune of 24 times the cost of production.
Of course they're pushing boosters. Of course they're claiming with no evidence that the problem is waning immunity, something that generally takes years or decades to occur. Of course they're falsely saying that if you have no serum antibodies anymore, you're no longer immune. You're a $50 bill if they can convince you, and they don't even have to worry about whether you can afford it, because hey, the well of taxpayer money is bottomless.
And they'll play with statistics to trick you, too. The cohort of people getting sicker and dying is getting younger. Sure. Because they're the least likely to be vaccinated, and all the old people were either vaccinated or had it and recovered or died. 50% of deaths are now in people 50 and younger! How horrifying!
When you look at the raw numbers, what do you see? Young people are increasing as a proportion of hospitalizations and deaths, but they're not increasing in raw numbers.
I just went and checked the data for my province. There were more cases during our April/May 2021 surge than during our November/December 2020 surge. But accounting for lag, in April/May, there were 1/3 the deaths. This most recent surge everyone is panicking about? About the same as April/May.
We have "free" health care here. Our hospitals generally run at 95-99% capacity. 88% of our ICU beds are currently occupied, and everyone's losing their minds.
Why would you trust the drug companies who are price gouging the very taxpayers who underwrote their research?
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What is so cool is that all the fricking morons that buy into the official narrative this time are going to the ones who get terribly ill and die. And it is their own fault. Karma is a bitch that's gonna make you twitch.
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Man - I'm glad you think this is "so cool" that's lots off folks are going to die, according to you - Willie, I wouldn't wish that, even on you :D
I'm not the one to blame here joker, I am warning not to take the jab.
Anyone who goes ahead and takes these shot is stupid and it's their own fault that they have committed suicide.
I am not wishing anything on anybody I am trying to warn EVERYBODY.
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The so-called "vaccinations" are the poisonous bioweapons, much more than risky -- DEADLY.
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So, if there were no vaccinations - would folks still die from the disease?
There have been vaccinations for the flu for years, that is where this so-called Covid came from in the first place.
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Thank you for your wonderful proven and scientifically accurate assertion ;-))
Poor Glenn must vomit if he ever read some of the comments ;-((
COVID 19 IS A BIOWEAPON
https://thedissedent.page/2021/09/12/covid-19-is-a-bioweapon/
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Willie "The Demented One" Wonka seems to have been doing the early trials of an experimental love potion and volunteered his testicle instead of a deltoid thinking it'd swell his deflowerer.
Since then Billie has been a practitioner of the "woowoo dance of masturbatory ulations" of which he owes me and the forum a demo link.
Well, viruses are quite a bit larger than salt ions.
And this is relevant because?
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100%. And as someone with emphysema the fucking things make breathing very uncomfortable. I wish I had the money to move. I would have left this Dem shit hole long ago
Masked sheep everywhere. Walk down the street and people LITERALLY walk in the street off the side walk to avoid you.
It is LUNACY here.
Worse, the standard white masks sold in pharmacies has Graphene Oxide imbedded in the cloth. Graphene Oxide is a poison heavy metal. That is also in these mRNA gene therapy solutions fraudulently called vaccines.
These solutions are bioweapons, not vaccines.
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In Quebec, they had to recall thousands of masks they'd been forcing school children and teachers to wear for months. Why? Because graphene fibers were shedding from them.
These people said it felt like they were swallowing cat hair all day.
Months. Children. So healthy.
Thank you Karen. These types of reports come in from all over the world. But they are seldom if ever reported in the mainstream press in the US.
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Next you'll be claiming submarines don't have screen doors. Even nuclear subs must comply with the mask mandate. Water is deadly to our sailors. Even if the screen door has leaks, it does slow the entry of water.
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BS ...
Uhhh…viruses don’t just float around in mid air by themselves.
What happens when a virus-containing moisture droplet evaporates?
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It stays airborne for awhile ...
The fact that AOC even showed up (regardless of what her $10K gown said) proves that she is just like the rest of the elitists and elected representative sell outs. This was a marketing opportunity for her to build her brand's equity, she is a gluttonous opportunist after all (oh, but I was there to get my message out). AOC does believe in the socialist policies that she claims to care about, but only because they will get her re-elected, and because they help her build her brand. She will get rich and famous off earned media and maybe leave some more crumbs for the serfs.....maybe.
The only thing you can be sure AOC can be counted on to do is excel in a blatant publicity stunt. Nice to know this is how she spends her time while drawing a salary from US taxpayers. She would never put "universal health care" or "support the return of family farms" inked over her lazy ass.
I wonder who paid her entry fee.
Probably classified as a campaign contribution.
Yeah, that's my first guess. The second guess is she was comped in exchange for a vote on some "important" piece of legislation.
She’s pelosi’s bitch. Easy connections!
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-masking-of-the-servant-class/comments#comment-2885894
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Likely, she was invited as a member of the NY delegation. Big events often invite members of Congress.
Nah, AOC is just the flavor of the moment playing a role. A person with "star power" who is being fed what to say, what to do etc. The crash and burn will be spectacular.
AOC is an active and enthusiastic participant in this hypocritical performance. She's an adult and responsible for her own actions. It took time, effort and cash to design that gown and plan to attend the gala for self-advancement. She mouths socialist slogans but is as interested in the welfare of people as Czar Nicholas II. I hope you're correct about the spectacular end of her career.
Oh yes I agree, she plays her part with relish. When the end comes is hard to predict given how bizarre everything is now.
She's been a disappointment, from a lefty point of view, a perfect example of position and party corrupting. Nonetheless, as someone who's helped pick candidates, I can tell you she's a dream candidate, certainly for anywhere on the left. She's smart and has charisma to burn, and cameras love her.
She'll probably be the first woman President. Better than Hillary, anyway.
She sounds like a 13 year old, think like a 10 year old, and she’s never had an original thought in in her entire life. If that’s a dream candidate it is because morons appeal to the DNC electorate.
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Sorry Chuck, for me anyone who ties his/her political cart to the D donkey, or the R elephant, for that matter could never, IMO, be a "dream candidate" - they are allowed to run as Ds to keep lefties in the D tent and away from 3rd parties - running with the Ds is dancing with the Devil - you can boogie a bit, but step on his toes and there is hell to pay ... ask Kucinich ....
I agree - just providing some realism about how elections work. Political aptitude is quite separate from political integrity - unfortunately.
Having a MSM political propaganda apparatus working in one’s favor at every step - is quite separate from political aptitude.
She’s a profoundly ignorant imbecile, she’s never held an original thought in her life, and has never progressed beyond first order thinking. Not unlike pop music stars with no talent, she’s a product with a brand and never has to be accountable for her dipshittery.
The charisma/star power thing to me is fascinating. All sides use it (makes sense). Her "dancing on the roof" video is a classic screen and look test.
She might be around the House for a long time. But a statewide election to replace Schumer or Gillibrand? Gfl with that.
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Remember, repulsive Sinema was like AOC -- before she became a fascist - what she is now.
China is far more capitalist than the US, Russia has not been Communist for 30+ years, while the US is a corporate socialism (more polite term for fascism)
Oh, it seems she doesn't really believe in that stuff - but it is useful rhetoric these days, any more than Trump believed SARS Cov-2 was a harmless virus when he was helicoptered to a top military hospital, and had the sink of treatments thrown at him ...
Or a corpse.
Only if the portrayal was indistinguishable from reality...
All Animals are equal, but some Animals are more equal than others...
Gee…how original.
I was waiting for somebody to write this. Because it was Glenn it was brilliant and hilarious at the same time.
Agreed!
Hilarious?
Considering cloth masks cannot stop a virus, it really is about subjugation and segregation. Fuck all of these people.
Masks(other then n95 are useless)
NTM that after March, 2020, true N95 masks were reserved for health care professionals, and what was sold to the general public on Amazon, et al, were KN95 masks, made in China, and manufactured with no real measuremen against the N95 standard. What few 3rd party tests were done seemed to indicated that some, probably most, possibly all KN95 masks were vastly inferior to the real thing. When I couldn't get away without a mask last year, I wore a 3M half-face respirator (that I already owned) equipped with P100 cartridges. That combination probably afforded me at least a little bit of protection. The real joke on the autocrats is that such respirators only filter incoming air, there is an exhalation valve to minimize breathing effort...
The real joke is that the "virus" was/is 99 percent survivable even if you believe their numbers since the flu magically disappeared.
Well, let's see - 1% of 300 million is 3 million - so that's OK with you, eh? Unless you or someone you love is one of them
Most of them were elderly and with four underlying conditions. Very few died OF covid. The numbers have been distorted to manipulate people like you to follow the mandates and get vaxxed. Sadly, people die every day and the best defense against any disease is a healthy lifestyle which is hardly ever mentioned by the "experts."
And you know this, how?
Shucks, even Trump got vaccinated ...
This bears repeating. The actual so-called "virus" was about as harmful as a bad cold to the great majority of people.
Now see this:
Video: Does the Virus Exist? Has SARS-CoV-2 Been Isolated? Interview with Christine Massey
https://www.globalresearch.ca/does-the-virus-exist-has-sars-cov-2-been-isolated-interview-with-christine-massey/5753322
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Good grief! How many times does one have to say, yes and yes
Look you gotta stop wearing those VR or AR glasses ....
Both N95 and KN95 masks are designed the filter out 95% of particles. The difference is what SIZE particles the filter. N95 will filter particles as small as viruses, but KN95 allow viruses to pass through. KN95 are greated for industrial uses to filter dusted; coronavirus, not so much.
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Well. Fucking. Done. Thank you for continuing to shed light on the enormous amount of disturbing societal shifts we've seen since March 2020. We truly need your voice along with the select few other journalists, who are courageous enough to push back against the groupthink and expose this gross hypocrisy.
I've always thought that no one writes a better "takedown piece" than Mark Steyn. That may still be true, but Mark now has competition. Glenn's piece is brilliant and savage in equal measure, a tour de force of prose. If you wonder why so many of us pay little or no attention to our alleged 'leaders', this essay is a great place to start.
I have nothing to add, except that I sincerely hope use of the phrase "masked servants of color" becomes a thing.
Many of the servers visible in the video Glenn embedded seem to be white (some may be from "south of the border"). That doesn't negate Glenn's overall point, but his use of the phrase "masked servants of color" may be inaccurate.
I was honestly hoping Glenn's use of it was a little dig at the Newspeak of these times - BIPOC, Latinx, et al. I assume Mitch's use is exactly that. And of course, white is also a color. Not intending any snark here.
Gee, do they have to be "of color"?
Plenty of colorless masked servants at my local shops and restaurants.
Masks are fascist symbols. Please point out the fascism of their advocates. The science behind masks is weak, and they may make the pandemic worse because of confounding factors where people engage in riskier behavior because they overestimate effectiveness. https://www.city-journal.org/do-masks-work-a-review-of-the-evidence
Oh shucks, there goes Halloween ....
It's clear that Halloween masks do indeed foster risky behavior, such as taking candy from strangers.
Ah, but they are effective :D
I was never one to be drawn towards AOC, however, at this moment I do feel empathy for those who not only voted for her, but trusted her to lead any sort of movement or challenge real power dynamics. I am quick to notice in this imagery the similarities to the animals of Orwell's Animal Farm:
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
How can anyone observe this and not only see the blatant hypocrisy, but also betrayal? It is rather insulting for her to not only attend, but then give such an obviously myopic and absurd justification for doing so. I don't know if a better juxtaposition of imagery exists today that better exemplifies the current environment: attending a decadent gathering of the mega-elite while wearing a preposterously extravagant dress with clearly empty sanctimony.
AOC is the female Latin version of Obama. Both shameless phonies who betrayed those who voted for them.
good comparison, though Obama did have a better speech writer
He also said, “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
Indeed. Here I am imagining the original fans of Ocasio-Cortez watch in disbelief as she wines and dines with the country's richest.
This is beautiful Glenn, thank you for writing such a complete take down of this insanity.
The fact that many cannot see the oligarchic dystopia of mask wearing is so deeply saddening. Many are in denial about how far along the road to serfdom we are.
I've often lamented that Tom Wolfe is no longer around when we need him the most but Glenn has admirably risen to the occasion. All this reminds me of the Bernstein Black Panther soiree. Those who haven't done so should read "Radical Chic and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catcher". Felicia, clever hostess that she was, solved what could have been a source of embarrassment by ensuring all the servants were Hispanic.
Wolfe had a keen eye for the hypocrisy and banality of American culture. Glenn is getting there
Gore Vidal as well-- but solely of the elite of which he was
"I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I am a conspiracy analyst"--Gore Vidal
Did you see him with William F. Buckley's show when Vidal called Buckley a Crypto-Nazi? Buckley responded that he would break Vidal's nose if he didn't take it back. Vidal said, "that would prove my point".
Buckley did not hit Vidal ... at least not on camera.
https://www.pbs.org/video/independent-lens-crypto-nazi-and-other-insults/
I re-read that recently. It is absolutely devastating and he skewered the Radical Chic, who definitely still with us.
David Foster Wallace (April 9, 1996). "Feodor's Guide: Joseph Frank's Dostoevsky". The Village Voice. . If you want to get some idea of how Dostoevskian irony might translate into modern U.S. culture, try reading House of the Dead and Tom Wolfe’s “Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers” at the same time.
Totally agree that Greenwald can channel Wolfe, and love that piece. I taught it for many years in a literary journalism class but stopped when social media became so pervasive that my students could no longer focus their attention long enough to get through it. #sad
Excellent comparative 😊
This revolting Met gala circle jerk perfectly illustrates Adolph Reed's critique of the CRT movement: a huge proportion of the elite attendees are POC -- especially black celebrities. Meanwhile, the handmaidens and butlers are people of every stripe. So racism is solved, right? Because we have proportional representation within each social caste. Now ask the average person growing up in coal miner Appalachia or inner-city Detroit or Los Angeles, black or white or brown, if life is good.
The only silver lining that I can see in this entire disgusting display is that the hyena pack of paparrazzi are also relegated to servant class status.