Just as with the Russia Bounty debacle, they will never acknowledge what they did. Their audience wants to be lied to for partisan gain and emotional pleasure.
So when I share Greenwald’s columns with leftist friends and family they don’t respond to the substance they just say something to the effect that they don’t understand what has happened to him. As if reporting the facts as he sees them is eq uivalent to having fallen victim to a disease. There really is nothing to say to these people. I disagree with Some of Greenwald’s positions but I am eternally grateful that he is willing to look carefully at these e vents and report the facts. That is what real journalists do!
Having mentioned Glenn’s reporting to a liberal acquaintance from college, I was given a retort of “Greenwald carries water for Trump and makes it harder to get rid of him.”
The truth doesn’t matter. We’ve become truly postmodern and power is the only metric left because there is no possibility of agreement on anything objective anymore.
I've had a similar experience with liberal relatives.
I ask probing questions about their beliefs, intended to challenge their thinking.
One of them, who always starts the discussion through an email with a link to an article from the NYT or some such, just ignores the questions.
The other, a niece who graduated from William and Mary, flat-out says she doesn't want to answer those kinds of questions.
They've chosen a team, for whatever reason. It's like being a Pittsburg Steelers Fan, or something, but way worse. Nothing, nothing you can ask them is going the challenge their belief their team is the greatest.
I think this has been true for a while, and during the Trump years this type of political polarization has become much more so. I find that those who identify as liberals are often extremely dogmatic in their beliefs and are closed off to any opposing points of view, and often become angry should you have a political position different then their own. I consider myself liberal, and always have, but should you see shades of grey in issues those "liberals" will too often go on an attack. Everything to them is black or white.
You've never seen a dogmatic conservative "open to any opposing point of view?" All of us -- Libs and Conservatives -- are being misled on damn near everything pertaining to our government. I don't trust anyone -- certainly nothing coming from the intelligence community (Thank you Glenn G.) I would trust the inate goodness of a friend who is a liberal than I would anyone in government -- Trump's or Bidens.
Yes, of course, but that's a given, and in the past I always experienced liberals as much more open and receptive to different opinions, interested in the truth, however during the Trump years I saw an end to that, more or less, and now the positions of too many liberals is quite dogmatic, and not only that they express utter contempt for those whose perspective on things are somewhat different. No longer are there shades of grey in their world. Of course I am not referring to all liberals, but too many of them can be defined that way in 2021.
When the actual war criminals from Republican Party like Bush, Liz Cheney, Rick Snyder etc join and endorse the author of the crime bill Biden, then that party is no longer abiding to the dictionary definition of a liberal which is "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."
My friends from high school who were "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" Republicans in the '80's are mostly Democrats now. I left the Democrats about the same time Warren left the Republicans to become a Democrat. Both parties are too conservative for me. I wonder how many other liberals of my generation left the Democrats and became independents or other, and how many Republicans became Democrats?
Well, it's during that time and before that the democrats really shifted toward the right, and by the time Clinton was through with the party it was no longer a party of the working class, or liberal in any way shape or form. I stuck it out and voted for Obama only to find out he was no progressive. I didn't vote for Trump, but definitely not for Clinton. In these last four years I've seen rather normal people become unhinged at the mere mention of Trump, and a black and white world evolve. I think the democrats more then anyone helped to create that divide. I was just reading that Chelsea Clinton want's Tucker Carlson removed from Facebook, but I didn't finish the article, but what the hell?
True to human nature, I was a Dem when young at heart, and a Conservative when I grew a brain. I left the the Dems when they started blaming the soldiers for Vietnam (me a returning babykiller among them) and when in 1974 they decided to have the SCOTUS choose a national infanticide shield law (Roe) instead of letting the states deal with the issue. I know that issue is personal to everyone. I have daughters and a wife. But my argument has always been process, not policy. I do not want SCOTUS as an alternative legislature deciding issues that cannot make it through the legislative process on their own merit.
It is like trying to de-bunk a religion. The adherents become very angry and in some cases violent. No remorse for any persons they attack or injure because like any ideologue a liberal never sees others as individuals but as part of some "group." That group is either with them or against them and is always treated as an enemy who must be destroyed for them to prosper and survive. Best to stay far away since these ideologues are a bit dangerous and cannot be reasoned with.
I was watching Debbie Wasserman-Shultz spew incredible hatred about Trump, and how he brought Naziism to America. She was full of rage, and spitting hate, almost unbelievable. Alright, she's crazy and does illegal things, and not to be trusted, but what I couldn't believe was to hear Norm Chomsky a while back saying President Donald Trump’s supporters at his rallies remind him of listening to the crowds at Hitler’s Nuremberg rallies. This is how so the called political left defined the right, and polarized this country. To be a liberal no longer means your open-minded, tolerant, or progressive. It's become very dogmatic in it's beliefs. A cousin referenced Trump supporters as a cultish, uneducated lot who totally lacked any sense of morality, and his mother agreed. I couldn't help myself and responded by saying how do so called liberals sum up some 70 million people in one sentence and define them all as amoral and a cultish lot?
Media trust by Democrats is at an all time high of 73-76%. Independents is at 35% and Republicans is at the lowest 10%. Aka most Democrats are buying whatever propaganda media is selling.
And I am not saying this to criticize democrats for political gain, I am saying this because this pendulum has chances of swinging to other side one day and then don't be surprised if everything they are supporting right now comes back to bite them in the ass one day.
That was interesting, Thanks for that link. I think the democrats trust the media more because in the last few years it's fed them what they wanted and demanded to hear which was anti-Trump rhetoric if not all out hate. I was always a registered democrat, but not always a voter, now I'm an independent. I stayed a democrat even knowing they really no longer represented the working class and unions, the people. However their Trump lies and hate turned me off because I came to see them as very authoritarian and willing to do anything even in breech of the constitution to oust him from office.
It's a cult, a partisan nationalistic cult. And there are cultists of both parties. It makes it easier for the ruling class to keep the working class in line. 90% of the media is owned by six corporations. They control the narrative. They fear monger to the left about the conservatives and Russia. They fear monger to the right about transgender folks and communism/socialism/"the left". They keep the working class divided against itself and powerless against oppression.
It's not their fault. They can't help it. The status quo is not a system of thought. It primarily isn't thought at all. It's an internalized pattern of cognition. Those who are tasked with designing the systems of manipulation for controlling the public mind know that.
While it does matter when status quo lies are exposed, or challenging questing questions are asked, as long as the narrative is persistently supported, the cognitive pattern will remain very difficult to challenge on a large enough scale to deactivate it.
I never thought of being liberal as having a religious perspective of the world, but most definitely a willingness to respect or accept behavior, or opinions different from my own, and having a more progressive perspective on things. I don't find that to be the case today as much as it was in the past.
"The case today" aren't liberals but neo-liberals - that's who you're referring to.
Due to their emergence on the scene, I've declined from describing myself as "liberal", though I once did, and now prefer "Progressive" because it's a distinctly different perspective, and one that mostly ignores a lot of the crap and tries to focus on _progress_ for the average citizen and the world writ large.
Art, not sure if you are equating liberal with neo-liberals in your first sentence. I agree that progressive is a good way to describe oneself, but liberal is another way to say progressive. True liberal has taken on a new meaning which today doesn't seem to mean much. However when Obama ran in 2008 everyone defined him as a progressive, and he was seen that way through his 8 years in office. Well I certainly didn't see him that way.
"when Obama ran in 2008 everyone defined him as a progressive,"
Sorry, that's laughably wrong. I remember HOPING he was progressive but saw the proverbial handwriting on the wall by paying close attention to his very specific word choice, such as saying we'd have to "make" him ("make me") take specific actions on one topic or another.
He was in no way a Progressive, more a "centrist Republican" as he later, in his second term, admitted openly on more than one occasion.
"he was seen that way through his 8 years in office."
Only by those who refused to see what was in front of their eyes and somehow missed Obama's own statements about himself.
"Well I certainly didn't see him that way."
THAT, I can surely believe!
As for the meaning of liberal, it has changed in this century's America, FROM the meaning you ascribe to something heinous, and this change in the meaning of the word is accompanied by a seriously well funded propagandistic effort to keep us fighting one another by really moving a whole population of what USED TO BE "left" to a seriously right-wing, authoritarian perspective - the howling protestations to the contrary by local commenters here be damned. The right-wingers who comment here refuse to understand their perceptions of what's left has been manipulated right along with all those former left people - or who are too young to have hadn any real grounding in left and were herded into becoming neo-liberals - who have been transformed into what the left actually loathes, the very antithisis of left-ism. And, that's by design, to both extinguish any real left AND to keep us all fighting one another instead of realizing our common enemy, the ulta-rich, and unifying to defeat them (which we simply must do to save the current biosphere).
What I find even more disturbing is the level of anger from liberal relatives should you question their position (especially god forbid with facts). I like the Dodgers but I'm not angry to the point of ostracizing you if you support the Yankees. Well, maybe a little.
Ms or Mr. Incarnate.......I just wrote a comment above and your experience is duplicate of mine. Glad to hear I am not alone. Here is part of my comment:
"I have had the same experience with demographically elite progressive friends. I have shown them data contravening what they say and think (on police shootings, especially police shootings) and they ignore them or refuse to acknowledge their existence."
I know your response was to a different post, but I responded to him as well. In terms of the issue you refer to there is only one response and no one is allowed to challenge or question it less one be called a racist. It seems liberals have quickly fallen into line willing to listen to orders dictated by the media, democrats, and the corporate world. This does not serve the interest of the people of this country, black white, or any other color.
He didn't "make stuff up" he asked that you let him guess. But I'll make something up, your non-response means he's probably more or less correct - I'm sure there is a wiggle word or competing definitions affecting the precision of his guess, but he's more or less accurate.
Really? You're haggling over the semantics of "guess" vs "fabricate" in a statement that failed to demonstrate any relevance to what he was replying to? I'm not here to chase other people's red herrings so they can change the subject of the conversation to something they're more comfortable with. If Eric can't demonstrate how his "guess" is relevant to my comment, that has nothing to do with me.
And your doubling down on irrelevance as some verification of it's truth value is as stupid as it sounds (to one who can think in rational terms).
If they claim to be “democratic socialists” I take them at their word. And in today’s world it does appear you can be both. One thing they are not is liberal.
It's the lack of remorse and accountability that infuriates me. The last screenshot, of the NYT saying "With a bloody gash in his head ..." which is clearly an outright lie. They will never apologize, never think they did anything wrong.
The Officer Sicknick story was so inflammatory that it caused me to take leave of my senses. But several hours later, when I calmed down, I reflected on whether the story made sense. It seemed to me that the Capitol insurgents/rioter/protesters (whatever) were not at all the types to bash a police officer's skull. Now several months later, the entire affair has reminded me not to jump to an emotion-driven conclusion based on a media story and quite frankly to distrust the media with every bone in my body. It is truly disgusting how reporters seems to have no qualms about bald-faced lying to the public.
It's a HUGE reminder to "look at your source." These days, their agenda is so ingrained into their DNA, you basically have to question every story the MSM produces. The more damaging the story, the more likely it is a lie.
I felt the same way after the reporting of the Covington kids at the March for Life. Any rational person should have taken pause and waited for more information as it just didn't pass the smell test. There are still media and even members of Congress who are grasping at that false narrative. Same with the whole "Kyle Rittenhouse is a White Supremacist" fear porn. Yeah, the 17 year old was picking up trash, putting out fires and playing first responder. All the hallmarks of a crazed spree-killer.
I also forgot one of the biggest whoppers of all....Jessie Smollet was beat up by Trump supporters screaming that Chicago is MAGA country. How long did they run with that and some still are?
I'm sorry to say that I've concluded I cant trust anything the media says unless it can be objectively verified. I have become much more cynical than I ever though I would.
I always take a breather whenever I read anything by any news source where people are "up in arms" or politicians make blanket "this is evil" statements. Take what happened in Ferguson, or the Russian bounty story that Glenn mentioned, or the Georgia election/Trump official story that was completely discredited when the audio recording came out. I have so many friends on the left and right both that I can hear what the "narrative is" for each, but try (hard, too hard sometimes!) to see through the rhetoric and find the truth. But it's not always easy and it takes so much time, that I appreciate Glenn more than he can possibly know. Because even if I don't always agree, I know he's not feeding me BS.
The timing of this release is not coincidental. With multiple other things consuming the news cycle, it was obviously decided to let this out now as opposed to during the hearings about the “insurrection.”
I think it’s interesting that the postmodernists seem to be the most fervent in their beliefs these days. The primary tenet of postmodernism, that nothing is truly knowable, undercuts that certainty.
Nothing like half of the US reads the NY Times. Most of the country does not read a newspaper. Of those that do, USA Today is the favorite, followed closely by the WSJ (which is probably the only one that makes money). NYT isn't in the top 4 by paid circulation. Total paid subscriptions of newspapers you've heard of is probably less than 15MM (ignoring enterprise-wide licenses).
USA Today has been a shopper from the beginning. I worked for Gannett in New York back then and the news room got a big laugh until it started stealing reporters. Then it pulled out of the Audit Bureau over free hotel copies. Then G went on to destroy every small-town newspaper it could get its hands on.
So, what we are left with is this: The capitol "rioters" killed no one. Not a single weapon was found on any of them. Stories about zip tie handcuffs already have been thoroughly rebutted. That's the closes to a weapon they could get. And, anyone watching that day, or catching up on YouTube before they pulled it down, could see security personnel moving stanchions and waving "rioters" in, then opening the doors of the capitol and letting still more in.
This wasn't a riot. It was a spectacle organized by the media to fit a narrative. I've know that since Day 1. It just took a while for all the evidence to be assembled.
It was dumb! If Trump couldn't offer real evidence of fraud, what was he thinking -- that thousands of his supporters could take over the government by pushing, yelling and screaming their way into the capitol. What would they have done if they had, in fact, cornered Pelosi or Pence? That's not the way it is done -- by either dimmicrats or raypooblicans.
There's plenty of evidence of election fraud and unconstitutional law changes. But I am not going to get into that because I believe that nobody's mind can be changed on that now. Simply ask yourself if you believe that Biden got 12 million more votes than Obama (most popular president)? And was it a co-incident that all 6 states stopped counting at exactly the same time on election night?
As for Trump - I am not a fan of his because he didn't pardon Assange, Snowden etc. But anyone who tells you he incited the Capitol stuff is lying to you. I watched it all go down live. Trump was speaking and on stage till 1:15PM. Capitol was breached at 12:40PM according to WaPo (anti trump source). It is nearly 1.5mi from the Ellipse to the Capitol, at least 30-40 min walk. Anyone who claimed his speech was inciting anything at the Capitol is hiding the truth that the Capitol was breached 45 minutes before Trump's speech ended and 40 minute walk away.
There is more than ample evidence that this election was "fortified" (to use Time magazine's Newspeak phrase.) Secondly, Trump did NOT ask his supporters to do what you are insinuating that he did. I'm trying to figure out the purpose of your post and there doesn't appear to be one.
You are simply wrong about what Trump did on 01/06. Just for the record, he never called Nazis "good people" and he never "urged his followers to ingest household disinfectants," as the idiotic Bill Maher said with a straight face the other night.
Then maybe our state representatives should review very severely the J-schools. If people in the media don't want to learn to tell the truth and prefer to prevaricate, they can always run for political office.
Medical Student EXPELLED for questioning "Micro-Aggressions" Can SUE University. This case would make Kafka jealous. Here's the full breakdown of the judgment allowing Kieran Bhattacharya to sue University of Virginia.:
And this tidbit of truth comes on the heels of Maxine Waters' call to violence in Minnesota - for which she'll never receive as much as a slap on the wrist from those who impeached Trump for less.
The judge in the Chauvin case has already admitted to the defense that Waters just gift wrapped them an appeal and presented it on a silver platter by running her mouth. The jury should have been sequestered from the beginning.
Maybe not. But at the very minimum, Chauvin was negligent and complicit in Floyd’s death. Fentanyl or not, Floyd was subdued and at the point that occurred, the police hold some responsibility for his safety.
The real question is whether or not the state overcharged him on purpose or just out of incompetence.
I've watched all the videos and can't see Chauvin is either negligent or complicit. Police are not medics or doctors. Floyd and his choices are responsible for his death. If anyone is complicit, blame the unruly and threatening crowd that delayed effective medical attention for Mr. Floyd, although he may well have died as a result of his drug consumption and comorbidities regardless of medical intervention. Floyd resisted all attempts to get him into the squad car. Chauvin's job was to control and detain Floyd. Street-wise habitual criminals like Floyd are adept at tactics like yelling "I can't breathe" and "I'm cooperating while in fact no cooperating." Nine minutes seems like a long time sitting at your laptop; not so much if you are trying to control a 6'4" 240lb criminal surrounded by a threatening crowd.
My order of blame for the Floyd incident lies on 1. His drug dealer friend with him who told him to swallow the drugs (and might have even gotten him to use the counterfeit bills but he pleaded the 5th), then the crowd, especially the mma guy, then Floyd himself.
"I've watched all the videos and can't see Chauvin is either negligent or complicit. Police are not medics"
Apparently you missed the part where there was an EMT on the scene - a woman who is a part of the local fire department who was specifically called on scene to deliver aide - who Chauvin explicitly turned away when she offered to help. She witnessed the whole thing and her testimony was damning.
Yeah, cops AREN'T medics, but don't they have a responsibility to listen to one who's already on scene and who indicates action is needed at that moment and they're there to provide it? You rightwingers are bloodthirsty with blind rage and lose your common sense.
Nope. Thanks for the attack but you seem to be blind to the rest of what she admitted in cross examination. She admitted that they prefer to load and go if the crowd around them show signs of aggression and when she was shown pics of the mma guy literally being held back by another dude with his eyes all red, shouting at them “pussy, I will f you up” etc, then it’s not safe for them. The scene must be cleared and safe before they can administer aid.
I would say your bias is what’s clouding your judgement. I am someone whose opinion changed from Chauvin guilty to him not guilty. His drug dealer in the car who told him to swallow drugs, the crowd and Floyd himself took his life.
It’s also interesting you accuse others of being blood thirsty when you are yourself okay with a lynch mob run by democrat politicians like Maxine waters and governor of MN to literally threaten a jury, especially when the judge is so stupid to not even sequester the jury in such a high profile case. One day you or someone you love may have their fifth amendment rights violated of a fair trial and due process and then you will learn the lesson that defending rights of those you hate is even more important than everything else. This is kangaroo court stuff and exactly what happens in third world countries.
These type of ignorant comments clearly show that most people didn’t even watch the trial or only watched the edited clips and have zero facts with them.
Watching the trial changed my mind on all of that. I went from him being guilty back when it happened to maybe guilty of some charges when the full body cam video was leaked to now "not guilty on any charges" after the trial.
There has been a coup, an insurrection, under way for five years. It started with the FBI investigating and harassing Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, General Flynn, and Donald Trump. The military-industrial complex has secretly run the government since the assassination of JFK and Trump was a threat.
Their allies in the media reported negatively on Trump more than 90% of the time, with Carl Bernstein repeatedly saying whatever Trump had done in every passing week was "worse than Watergate". The corrupt politicians James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, and Adam Schiff lied to congress, lied to the American people, and made the voters believe that Trump colluded with Russia. When that lie was exposed, they called Trump a Russian spy. Finally, just before the 2020 election, they spread the fake story that Russia paid a bounty to the Taliban to kill American soldiers.
At the same time, riots spread all over the nation, co-ordinated by Marxists and anarchists who communicated by Twitter, Facebook, and with their Smart Phones. Pallets of bricks mysteriously showed up a pre-arranged riot sites so that bricks could be thrown at police.
Crooked politicians ordered their police departments to step down and not enforce the laws. Crooked DA's let criminals out of jail without bail and Kamala Harris' team paid the bail for those who weren't let out free.
When Hunter Biden's laptop was discovered, it was called "Russian disinformation" and to this date no one has questioned him about the pictures or the emails that implicate him and his father in criminal actions.
Now, America is run by mobs. I saw the governor of Minnesota on television tonight and he stressed how important it is to "reimagine" the racist police forces in America. Specifically, he said that no one should be killed for driving a car without a legal registration. Somehow, he forgot to mention that George Floyd broke a Federal law by trying to pass counterfeit money and that he resisted arrest. Maxine Waters went to Minneapolis today and said that if Derek Chauvin is not convicted of the most serious charges against him, the people should riot.
Whether there is a hung jury or whether Chauvin is found guilty of the least serious charge, even if he is found guilty of the most serious charge, there will be nationwide riots (because his attorney will certainly appeal any conviction based on Maxine Waters' statement and the fact that Chauvin couldn't get a fair trial in Minneapolis).
Critical Race Theory is being taught in secondary schools and 108,000 illegal aliens have been apprehended at the southern border in the past three months - up from 9,000 in 2020.
Meanwhile, Russia has 150,000 troops on Ukraine's border and MASH units have been set up to the expected wounded casualties. China is doing daily fly-overs of Taiwan to test the willingness of the USA to protect our ally.
Reading the comments below and Glenn's latest article, the words that come to mind are 'cognitive dissonance'. When leftists are confronted with FACTS from very credible sources they suffer from the above mentioned affliction. The only way to solve it is to do one of 2 things. Accept the truth and make an informed and rational response to their partisanship while taking the political grifters and liars into account. Or 2, as many on the thread below have shown and our media have clearly shown - Ignore the truth because it doesn't fit their ideological political cult and claim the offenders are liars or racists - whichever fits better.
This is the state of politics today. As Glenn has previously said the left (and some on the right) have turned politics into their religion and can no longer debate or listen to sound arguments that oppose their ideological agendas.
America's enemies are laughing at what weak-minded fools many of us have become. Rightfully so.
One thing that Trump did get right. Not all - but MANY in the press are the enemy of the people but only the people whom they disagree with politically. They will lie, cheat, steal be on the take for their leftist religion and the majority our news is pathetically 'spun' in every way. Every story.
We need writers like Glenn Greenwald who believes in fairness and open dialogue to form a coalition of REAL JOURNALISTS. America needs REAL JOURNALISTS now more then ever.
So, they can now finally call them "rioters" instead of "insurrectionists." Man, that term always galled me since they knew full well there was never any insurrection.
But hey, never let a crisis go to waste. Even if you have to make it up.
Keep hammering them, Glenn. Who knows, you may even make a few journalists out of that gaggle of agenda pushers.
Meh - the Associated Press still refers to the recession as "The Great Recession" - as if that's a universally accepted term. The only people I know who call the recession The Great Recession are reporters for the AP ...
Since I am white, I started to do the same thing (Black/white), sarcastically. What else but riot am i suppose to do in the face of such blatant racism.
I know, right? I mean in this case, (and hopefully going forward? who knows...) The WaPo must have rather have had a root canal than use "rioters" - but they did.
I know, that was my point, but my fault for being confusing. The vast majority of law-breakers on Jan. 6 are only guilty of trespassing, and even the trouble-makers were un-armed. Watch the lying media, if they ever feel they must backtrack from "rioters," they still won't tell this whole truth.
I was pleased to read your take at the end of this piece. We know the officer was survived by his mother. I'm not sure what other close family he had, but I'm sure there were others. Tragically he died at the young age of 42. The media and Dem exploitation of his death can only have caused his poor mother and family greater pain. You hear it often - parents are not supposed to outlive their children. It's just beyond reprehensible. These vultures have very dark souls.
So when I share Greenwald’s columns with leftist friends and family they don’t respond to the substance they just say something to the effect that they don’t understand what has happened to him. As if reporting the facts as he sees them is eq uivalent to having fallen victim to a disease. There really is nothing to say to these people. I disagree with Some of Greenwald’s positions but I am eternally grateful that he is willing to look carefully at these e vents and report the facts. That is what real journalists do!
Having mentioned Glenn’s reporting to a liberal acquaintance from college, I was given a retort of “Greenwald carries water for Trump and makes it harder to get rid of him.”
The truth doesn’t matter. We’ve become truly postmodern and power is the only metric left because there is no possibility of agreement on anything objective anymore.
Lots of fascists on the left - I mean, how often do we now hear that "free speech" is just another right-wing excuse?
I think now that authoritarianism is the core of liberalism.
Authoritarianism is the core of many forms of leftism and some forms of rightism. Liberalism is supposed to mean the opposite of authoritarianism.
Ding, ding, ding!
Authoritarianism is the result of liberalism taken to the extreme.
Thank you for that clarification. It works on both the extreme right and left, though. Rigid doctrinaires are the bane of democracy.
The First Amendment carries water for Trump.
The Truth is what the Ministry says it is.
I've had a similar experience with liberal relatives.
I ask probing questions about their beliefs, intended to challenge their thinking.
One of them, who always starts the discussion through an email with a link to an article from the NYT or some such, just ignores the questions.
The other, a niece who graduated from William and Mary, flat-out says she doesn't want to answer those kinds of questions.
They've chosen a team, for whatever reason. It's like being a Pittsburg Steelers Fan, or something, but way worse. Nothing, nothing you can ask them is going the challenge their belief their team is the greatest.
I think this has been true for a while, and during the Trump years this type of political polarization has become much more so. I find that those who identify as liberals are often extremely dogmatic in their beliefs and are closed off to any opposing points of view, and often become angry should you have a political position different then their own. I consider myself liberal, and always have, but should you see shades of grey in issues those "liberals" will too often go on an attack. Everything to them is black or white.
You've never seen a dogmatic conservative "open to any opposing point of view?" All of us -- Libs and Conservatives -- are being misled on damn near everything pertaining to our government. I don't trust anyone -- certainly nothing coming from the intelligence community (Thank you Glenn G.) I would trust the inate goodness of a friend who is a liberal than I would anyone in government -- Trump's or Bidens.
Yes, of course, but that's a given, and in the past I always experienced liberals as much more open and receptive to different opinions, interested in the truth, however during the Trump years I saw an end to that, more or less, and now the positions of too many liberals is quite dogmatic, and not only that they express utter contempt for those whose perspective on things are somewhat different. No longer are there shades of grey in their world. Of course I am not referring to all liberals, but too many of them can be defined that way in 2021.
When the actual war criminals from Republican Party like Bush, Liz Cheney, Rick Snyder etc join and endorse the author of the crime bill Biden, then that party is no longer abiding to the dictionary definition of a liberal which is "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."
My friends from high school who were "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" Republicans in the '80's are mostly Democrats now. I left the Democrats about the same time Warren left the Republicans to become a Democrat. Both parties are too conservative for me. I wonder how many other liberals of my generation left the Democrats and became independents or other, and how many Republicans became Democrats?
Well, it's during that time and before that the democrats really shifted toward the right, and by the time Clinton was through with the party it was no longer a party of the working class, or liberal in any way shape or form. I stuck it out and voted for Obama only to find out he was no progressive. I didn't vote for Trump, but definitely not for Clinton. In these last four years I've seen rather normal people become unhinged at the mere mention of Trump, and a black and white world evolve. I think the democrats more then anyone helped to create that divide. I was just reading that Chelsea Clinton want's Tucker Carlson removed from Facebook, but I didn't finish the article, but what the hell?
True to human nature, I was a Dem when young at heart, and a Conservative when I grew a brain. I left the the Dems when they started blaming the soldiers for Vietnam (me a returning babykiller among them) and when in 1974 they decided to have the SCOTUS choose a national infanticide shield law (Roe) instead of letting the states deal with the issue. I know that issue is personal to everyone. I have daughters and a wife. But my argument has always been process, not policy. I do not want SCOTUS as an alternative legislature deciding issues that cannot make it through the legislative process on their own merit.
It is like trying to de-bunk a religion. The adherents become very angry and in some cases violent. No remorse for any persons they attack or injure because like any ideologue a liberal never sees others as individuals but as part of some "group." That group is either with them or against them and is always treated as an enemy who must be destroyed for them to prosper and survive. Best to stay far away since these ideologues are a bit dangerous and cannot be reasoned with.
I was watching Debbie Wasserman-Shultz spew incredible hatred about Trump, and how he brought Naziism to America. She was full of rage, and spitting hate, almost unbelievable. Alright, she's crazy and does illegal things, and not to be trusted, but what I couldn't believe was to hear Norm Chomsky a while back saying President Donald Trump’s supporters at his rallies remind him of listening to the crowds at Hitler’s Nuremberg rallies. This is how so the called political left defined the right, and polarized this country. To be a liberal no longer means your open-minded, tolerant, or progressive. It's become very dogmatic in it's beliefs. A cousin referenced Trump supporters as a cultish, uneducated lot who totally lacked any sense of morality, and his mother agreed. I couldn't help myself and responded by saying how do so called liberals sum up some 70 million people in one sentence and define them all as amoral and a cultish lot?
It's because you fall in the 24% of liberals who still have critical thinking.
Only Republicans and some independents seem to be learning as shown by this Gallup poll:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/321116/americans-remain-distrustful-mass-media.aspx
Media trust by Democrats is at an all time high of 73-76%. Independents is at 35% and Republicans is at the lowest 10%. Aka most Democrats are buying whatever propaganda media is selling.
And I am not saying this to criticize democrats for political gain, I am saying this because this pendulum has chances of swinging to other side one day and then don't be surprised if everything they are supporting right now comes back to bite them in the ass one day.
That was interesting, Thanks for that link. I think the democrats trust the media more because in the last few years it's fed them what they wanted and demanded to hear which was anti-Trump rhetoric if not all out hate. I was always a registered democrat, but not always a voter, now I'm an independent. I stayed a democrat even knowing they really no longer represented the working class and unions, the people. However their Trump lies and hate turned me off because I came to see them as very authoritarian and willing to do anything even in breech of the constitution to oust him from office.
It's a cult, a partisan nationalistic cult. And there are cultists of both parties. It makes it easier for the ruling class to keep the working class in line. 90% of the media is owned by six corporations. They control the narrative. They fear monger to the left about the conservatives and Russia. They fear monger to the right about transgender folks and communism/socialism/"the left". They keep the working class divided against itself and powerless against oppression.
It's not their fault. They can't help it. The status quo is not a system of thought. It primarily isn't thought at all. It's an internalized pattern of cognition. Those who are tasked with designing the systems of manipulation for controlling the public mind know that.
While it does matter when status quo lies are exposed, or challenging questing questions are asked, as long as the narrative is persistently supported, the cognitive pattern will remain very difficult to challenge on a large enough scale to deactivate it.
That's because liberalism is a religion, not a political ideology steeped in identifying a problem, implementing a solution and improving lives.
I never thought of being liberal as having a religious perspective of the world, but most definitely a willingness to respect or accept behavior, or opinions different from my own, and having a more progressive perspective on things. I don't find that to be the case today as much as it was in the past.
"The case today" aren't liberals but neo-liberals - that's who you're referring to.
Due to their emergence on the scene, I've declined from describing myself as "liberal", though I once did, and now prefer "Progressive" because it's a distinctly different perspective, and one that mostly ignores a lot of the crap and tries to focus on _progress_ for the average citizen and the world writ large.
Art, not sure if you are equating liberal with neo-liberals in your first sentence. I agree that progressive is a good way to describe oneself, but liberal is another way to say progressive. True liberal has taken on a new meaning which today doesn't seem to mean much. However when Obama ran in 2008 everyone defined him as a progressive, and he was seen that way through his 8 years in office. Well I certainly didn't see him that way.
"when Obama ran in 2008 everyone defined him as a progressive,"
Sorry, that's laughably wrong. I remember HOPING he was progressive but saw the proverbial handwriting on the wall by paying close attention to his very specific word choice, such as saying we'd have to "make" him ("make me") take specific actions on one topic or another.
He was in no way a Progressive, more a "centrist Republican" as he later, in his second term, admitted openly on more than one occasion.
"he was seen that way through his 8 years in office."
Only by those who refused to see what was in front of their eyes and somehow missed Obama's own statements about himself.
"Well I certainly didn't see him that way."
THAT, I can surely believe!
As for the meaning of liberal, it has changed in this century's America, FROM the meaning you ascribe to something heinous, and this change in the meaning of the word is accompanied by a seriously well funded propagandistic effort to keep us fighting one another by really moving a whole population of what USED TO BE "left" to a seriously right-wing, authoritarian perspective - the howling protestations to the contrary by local commenters here be damned. The right-wingers who comment here refuse to understand their perceptions of what's left has been manipulated right along with all those former left people - or who are too young to have hadn any real grounding in left and were herded into becoming neo-liberals - who have been transformed into what the left actually loathes, the very antithisis of left-ism. And, that's by design, to both extinguish any real left AND to keep us all fighting one another instead of realizing our common enemy, the ulta-rich, and unifying to defeat them (which we simply must do to save the current biosphere).
Bullseye.
Keep trying, Evil. We will get converts one at a time.
What I find even more disturbing is the level of anger from liberal relatives should you question their position (especially god forbid with facts). I like the Dodgers but I'm not angry to the point of ostracizing you if you support the Yankees. Well, maybe a little.
Ms or Mr. Incarnate.......I just wrote a comment above and your experience is duplicate of mine. Glad to hear I am not alone. Here is part of my comment:
"I have had the same experience with demographically elite progressive friends. I have shown them data contravening what they say and think (on police shootings, especially police shootings) and they ignore them or refuse to acknowledge their existence."
I know your response was to a different post, but I responded to him as well. In terms of the issue you refer to there is only one response and no one is allowed to challenge or question it less one be called a racist. It seems liberals have quickly fallen into line willing to listen to orders dictated by the media, democrats, and the corporate world. This does not serve the interest of the people of this country, black white, or any other color.
The meme of one's eyes bulging and head puffing out like a lionfish is real.
Yuri Bezmenov referred to them as useful idiots.
I always bring this up -- if Greenwald is off your wagon, perhaps you should think harder about the wagon.
If Bush, Liz Cheney and Rick Snyder are on your wagon enduring Biden, you should think harder about the wagon too lol
That's concise; I like it, thanks.
"The dominant strain of American liberalism is not economic socialism but political authoritarianism." - Glenn Greenwald.
Ad hominem attacks are a sure sign of lack of faith in their own arguments.
They're not "leftists." They're corporatists. You can't be both. Leftists are extremely rare in this country. And corporatism is status quo.
Let me guess, you also think "true socialism has never been tried."
If you have to make stuff up to participate in a conversation it's a sign you'd be better off just observing.
He didn't "make stuff up" he asked that you let him guess. But I'll make something up, your non-response means he's probably more or less correct - I'm sure there is a wiggle word or competing definitions affecting the precision of his guess, but he's more or less accurate.
Really? You're haggling over the semantics of "guess" vs "fabricate" in a statement that failed to demonstrate any relevance to what he was replying to? I'm not here to chase other people's red herrings so they can change the subject of the conversation to something they're more comfortable with. If Eric can't demonstrate how his "guess" is relevant to my comment, that has nothing to do with me.
And your doubling down on irrelevance as some verification of it's truth value is as stupid as it sounds (to one who can think in rational terms).
If they claim to be “democratic socialists” I take them at their word. And in today’s world it does appear you can be both. One thing they are not is liberal.
"And in today’s world it does appear you can be both."
Meaning Socialists have a majority? Until they vote to end democracy.
Yep, and thanks for writing that.
Truly there is a parasitic pathogen that has affected large swathes of formerly intellectual, rational minded people.
Ask what’s wrong with them.
Hear! Hear! I've gotten the same response from my friends who edit or publish newspapers in different markets.
Sad.
It's the lack of remorse and accountability that infuriates me. The last screenshot, of the NYT saying "With a bloody gash in his head ..." which is clearly an outright lie. They will never apologize, never think they did anything wrong.
Remorse and accountability only occurs when you do something by mistake. These aren't mistakes.
The Officer Sicknick story was so inflammatory that it caused me to take leave of my senses. But several hours later, when I calmed down, I reflected on whether the story made sense. It seemed to me that the Capitol insurgents/rioter/protesters (whatever) were not at all the types to bash a police officer's skull. Now several months later, the entire affair has reminded me not to jump to an emotion-driven conclusion based on a media story and quite frankly to distrust the media with every bone in my body. It is truly disgusting how reporters seems to have no qualms about bald-faced lying to the public.
It's a HUGE reminder to "look at your source." These days, their agenda is so ingrained into their DNA, you basically have to question every story the MSM produces. The more damaging the story, the more likely it is a lie.
I felt the same way after the reporting of the Covington kids at the March for Life. Any rational person should have taken pause and waited for more information as it just didn't pass the smell test. There are still media and even members of Congress who are grasping at that false narrative. Same with the whole "Kyle Rittenhouse is a White Supremacist" fear porn. Yeah, the 17 year old was picking up trash, putting out fires and playing first responder. All the hallmarks of a crazed spree-killer.
I also forgot one of the biggest whoppers of all....Jessie Smollet was beat up by Trump supporters screaming that Chicago is MAGA country. How long did they run with that and some still are?
Smollet having all charges dropped gave us a glimpse of the two-tiered justice system now in place in America.
NYT remains the leader. Don't forget "Russians pay bounties to Taliban for dead US soldiers... and Trump doesn't care!"
I'm sorry to say that I've concluded I cant trust anything the media says unless it can be objectively verified. I have become much more cynical than I ever though I would.
Congratulations and kudos for your ability to change your opinion based on the facts.
Ha! I had to re-read this to realize just how much a compliment it is!!
I always take a breather whenever I read anything by any news source where people are "up in arms" or politicians make blanket "this is evil" statements. Take what happened in Ferguson, or the Russian bounty story that Glenn mentioned, or the Georgia election/Trump official story that was completely discredited when the audio recording came out. I have so many friends on the left and right both that I can hear what the "narrative is" for each, but try (hard, too hard sometimes!) to see through the rhetoric and find the truth. But it's not always easy and it takes so much time, that I appreciate Glenn more than he can possibly know. Because even if I don't always agree, I know he's not feeding me BS.
The timing of this release is not coincidental. With multiple other things consuming the news cycle, it was obviously decided to let this out now as opposed to during the hearings about the “insurrection.”
Astute observation. The other trend I observe is that these lies have shorter and shorter shelf-life. Launch it, milk it quick, discard. Repeat.
You, Taibbi et al will not get through to half of the US who're NYT consumers.
It's sad. It makes me worried for the future.
I've no idea how to move true believers, once converted, from their truth.
As always, well written article. Thank you.
You cannot reason someone out of a position which they did not reason themselves into.
THAT is an awesome observation!
Thank you, however I cannot claim it. It’s a variation on Jonathan Swift:
“Reasoning will never make a man correct an opinion, which by reasoning he never acquired.”
At least you steal from the best. ;-)
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Similarly, you can lead a person to logic but you can't make them think."
Well, you nailed the appropriate paraphrase!
Especially if they thought they DID use reason to arrive at their opinions.
I think it’s interesting that the postmodernists seem to be the most fervent in their beliefs these days. The primary tenet of postmodernism, that nothing is truly knowable, undercuts that certainty.
Postmodernists are always saying, "Don't listen to me. I don't know anything."
Nothing like half of the US reads the NY Times. Most of the country does not read a newspaper. Of those that do, USA Today is the favorite, followed closely by the WSJ (which is probably the only one that makes money). NYT isn't in the top 4 by paid circulation. Total paid subscriptions of newspapers you've heard of is probably less than 15MM (ignoring enterprise-wide licenses).
Take out the corporate accounts (hotel freebies) and USA Today is exposed as the joke that it is.
USA Today has been a shopper from the beginning. I worked for Gannett in New York back then and the news room got a big laugh until it started stealing reporters. Then it pulled out of the Audit Bureau over free hotel copies. Then G went on to destroy every small-town newspaper it could get its hands on.
Thanks. I didn't know about the Audit Bureau.
So, what we are left with is this: The capitol "rioters" killed no one. Not a single weapon was found on any of them. Stories about zip tie handcuffs already have been thoroughly rebutted. That's the closes to a weapon they could get. And, anyone watching that day, or catching up on YouTube before they pulled it down, could see security personnel moving stanchions and waving "rioters" in, then opening the doors of the capitol and letting still more in.
This wasn't a riot. It was a spectacle organized by the media to fit a narrative. I've know that since Day 1. It just took a while for all the evidence to be assembled.
It was dumb! If Trump couldn't offer real evidence of fraud, what was he thinking -- that thousands of his supporters could take over the government by pushing, yelling and screaming their way into the capitol. What would they have done if they had, in fact, cornered Pelosi or Pence? That's not the way it is done -- by either dimmicrats or raypooblicans.
There's plenty of evidence of election fraud and unconstitutional law changes. But I am not going to get into that because I believe that nobody's mind can be changed on that now. Simply ask yourself if you believe that Biden got 12 million more votes than Obama (most popular president)? And was it a co-incident that all 6 states stopped counting at exactly the same time on election night?
As for Trump - I am not a fan of his because he didn't pardon Assange, Snowden etc. But anyone who tells you he incited the Capitol stuff is lying to you. I watched it all go down live. Trump was speaking and on stage till 1:15PM. Capitol was breached at 12:40PM according to WaPo (anti trump source). It is nearly 1.5mi from the Ellipse to the Capitol, at least 30-40 min walk. Anyone who claimed his speech was inciting anything at the Capitol is hiding the truth that the Capitol was breached 45 minutes before Trump's speech ended and 40 minute walk away.
There is more than ample evidence that this election was "fortified" (to use Time magazine's Newspeak phrase.) Secondly, Trump did NOT ask his supporters to do what you are insinuating that he did. I'm trying to figure out the purpose of your post and there doesn't appear to be one.
You are simply wrong about what Trump did on 01/06. Just for the record, he never called Nazis "good people" and he never "urged his followers to ingest household disinfectants," as the idiotic Bill Maher said with a straight face the other night.
Bill Maher seems to be turning slowly BACK to what he began as, a libertarian, but he has a way to go yet, and TDS is a convenient bandwagon.
50 years ago as a "journalist" I was taught to leave my opinion to myself. Where are these people being educated? Pravda? the CCP?
Modern universities. So, yes.
Then maybe our state representatives should review very severely the J-schools. If people in the media don't want to learn to tell the truth and prefer to prevaricate, they can always run for political office.
If only it was just the journalism schools.
*with tongue in cheek* The well-regarded Columbia School of Journalism, among others.
Medical Student EXPELLED for questioning "Micro-Aggressions" Can SUE University. This case would make Kafka jealous. Here's the full breakdown of the judgment allowing Kieran Bhattacharya to sue University of Virginia.:
https://youtu.be/UlWs4bg49Ek
Wonder how he made out ....
That was my experience 40-something years ago.
And this tidbit of truth comes on the heels of Maxine Waters' call to violence in Minnesota - for which she'll never receive as much as a slap on the wrist from those who impeached Trump for less.
The judge in the Chauvin case has already admitted to the defense that Waters just gift wrapped them an appeal and presented it on a silver platter by running her mouth. The jury should have been sequestered from the beginning.
hmmm... so an appeal means more riots, protests, headlines, and mostly, politicians pandering and grandstanding.
Gee...that couldn't have been her plan all along...could it ?
I love that you think Maxine Waters is capable of creating and executing a plan. Democrats in general, sure, maybe.
Like many, she seems capable of following directions.
Exactly..."useful idiots"
Easily sacraficed useful idiots, or is that redundant.
She does grift pretty well
Nah, I think she knew exactly what she was doing and did it on purpose. These politicians aren't stupid.
Not even Ms. Waters?
What seems stupidity to some is malice when it’s done repeatedly .
Maybe not. But at the very minimum, Chauvin was negligent and complicit in Floyd’s death. Fentanyl or not, Floyd was subdued and at the point that occurred, the police hold some responsibility for his safety.
The real question is whether or not the state overcharged him on purpose or just out of incompetence.
I've watched all the videos and can't see Chauvin is either negligent or complicit. Police are not medics or doctors. Floyd and his choices are responsible for his death. If anyone is complicit, blame the unruly and threatening crowd that delayed effective medical attention for Mr. Floyd, although he may well have died as a result of his drug consumption and comorbidities regardless of medical intervention. Floyd resisted all attempts to get him into the squad car. Chauvin's job was to control and detain Floyd. Street-wise habitual criminals like Floyd are adept at tactics like yelling "I can't breathe" and "I'm cooperating while in fact no cooperating." Nine minutes seems like a long time sitting at your laptop; not so much if you are trying to control a 6'4" 240lb criminal surrounded by a threatening crowd.
My order of blame for the Floyd incident lies on 1. His drug dealer friend with him who told him to swallow the drugs (and might have even gotten him to use the counterfeit bills but he pleaded the 5th), then the crowd, especially the mma guy, then Floyd himself.
It’s true that if Floyd had climbed in the patrol car and not resisted arrest, he well made have died en route or shortly afterwards.
"I've watched all the videos and can't see Chauvin is either negligent or complicit. Police are not medics"
Apparently you missed the part where there was an EMT on the scene - a woman who is a part of the local fire department who was specifically called on scene to deliver aide - who Chauvin explicitly turned away when she offered to help. She witnessed the whole thing and her testimony was damning.
Yeah, cops AREN'T medics, but don't they have a responsibility to listen to one who's already on scene and who indicates action is needed at that moment and they're there to provide it? You rightwingers are bloodthirsty with blind rage and lose your common sense.
Nope. Thanks for the attack but you seem to be blind to the rest of what she admitted in cross examination. She admitted that they prefer to load and go if the crowd around them show signs of aggression and when she was shown pics of the mma guy literally being held back by another dude with his eyes all red, shouting at them “pussy, I will f you up” etc, then it’s not safe for them. The scene must be cleared and safe before they can administer aid.
I would say your bias is what’s clouding your judgement. I am someone whose opinion changed from Chauvin guilty to him not guilty. His drug dealer in the car who told him to swallow drugs, the crowd and Floyd himself took his life.
It’s also interesting you accuse others of being blood thirsty when you are yourself okay with a lynch mob run by democrat politicians like Maxine waters and governor of MN to literally threaten a jury, especially when the judge is so stupid to not even sequester the jury in such a high profile case. One day you or someone you love may have their fifth amendment rights violated of a fair trial and due process and then you will learn the lesson that defending rights of those you hate is even more important than everything else. This is kangaroo court stuff and exactly what happens in third world countries.
Nope. She got toasted in cross-x. She tried to intervene and was out of line. Go back and watch the questioning by the defense lawyer
It's a long time for kneeling on a neck ....
He wasn’t kneeling on neck as proven during trial. It was the shoulder blade.
Except they aren’t struggling to control him.
And who really wants cops putting knees on necks?
Maybe some of us have had more interesting police encounters than others.
Overall, I think the police do a great job and keep our country out of banana republic zone.
These type of ignorant comments clearly show that most people didn’t even watch the trial or only watched the edited clips and have zero facts with them.
And the crowd did not seem that threatening to me.
Watching the trial changed my mind on all of that. I went from him being guilty back when it happened to maybe guilty of some charges when the full body cam video was leaked to now "not guilty on any charges" after the trial.
Wow! I am of the opposite chain of opinion!
Or undercharged him.
Thinking they could put a lid on the violence, maybe? Good luck with that...
There has been a coup, an insurrection, under way for five years. It started with the FBI investigating and harassing Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, General Flynn, and Donald Trump. The military-industrial complex has secretly run the government since the assassination of JFK and Trump was a threat.
Their allies in the media reported negatively on Trump more than 90% of the time, with Carl Bernstein repeatedly saying whatever Trump had done in every passing week was "worse than Watergate". The corrupt politicians James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, and Adam Schiff lied to congress, lied to the American people, and made the voters believe that Trump colluded with Russia. When that lie was exposed, they called Trump a Russian spy. Finally, just before the 2020 election, they spread the fake story that Russia paid a bounty to the Taliban to kill American soldiers.
At the same time, riots spread all over the nation, co-ordinated by Marxists and anarchists who communicated by Twitter, Facebook, and with their Smart Phones. Pallets of bricks mysteriously showed up a pre-arranged riot sites so that bricks could be thrown at police.
Crooked politicians ordered their police departments to step down and not enforce the laws. Crooked DA's let criminals out of jail without bail and Kamala Harris' team paid the bail for those who weren't let out free.
When Hunter Biden's laptop was discovered, it was called "Russian disinformation" and to this date no one has questioned him about the pictures or the emails that implicate him and his father in criminal actions.
Now, America is run by mobs. I saw the governor of Minnesota on television tonight and he stressed how important it is to "reimagine" the racist police forces in America. Specifically, he said that no one should be killed for driving a car without a legal registration. Somehow, he forgot to mention that George Floyd broke a Federal law by trying to pass counterfeit money and that he resisted arrest. Maxine Waters went to Minneapolis today and said that if Derek Chauvin is not convicted of the most serious charges against him, the people should riot.
Whether there is a hung jury or whether Chauvin is found guilty of the least serious charge, even if he is found guilty of the most serious charge, there will be nationwide riots (because his attorney will certainly appeal any conviction based on Maxine Waters' statement and the fact that Chauvin couldn't get a fair trial in Minneapolis).
Critical Race Theory is being taught in secondary schools and 108,000 illegal aliens have been apprehended at the southern border in the past three months - up from 9,000 in 2020.
Meanwhile, Russia has 150,000 troops on Ukraine's border and MASH units have been set up to the expected wounded casualties. China is doing daily fly-overs of Taiwan to test the willingness of the USA to protect our ally.
It's over.
A beautiful post, ruined by surrender.
He should have been. Glad he was.
Reading the comments below and Glenn's latest article, the words that come to mind are 'cognitive dissonance'. When leftists are confronted with FACTS from very credible sources they suffer from the above mentioned affliction. The only way to solve it is to do one of 2 things. Accept the truth and make an informed and rational response to their partisanship while taking the political grifters and liars into account. Or 2, as many on the thread below have shown and our media have clearly shown - Ignore the truth because it doesn't fit their ideological political cult and claim the offenders are liars or racists - whichever fits better.
This is the state of politics today. As Glenn has previously said the left (and some on the right) have turned politics into their religion and can no longer debate or listen to sound arguments that oppose their ideological agendas.
America's enemies are laughing at what weak-minded fools many of us have become. Rightfully so.
One thing that Trump did get right. Not all - but MANY in the press are the enemy of the people but only the people whom they disagree with politically. They will lie, cheat, steal be on the take for their leftist religion and the majority our news is pathetically 'spun' in every way. Every story.
We need writers like Glenn Greenwald who believes in fairness and open dialogue to form a coalition of REAL JOURNALISTS. America needs REAL JOURNALISTS now more then ever.
/END RANT
So, they can now finally call them "rioters" instead of "insurrectionists." Man, that term always galled me since they knew full well there was never any insurrection.
But hey, never let a crisis go to waste. Even if you have to make it up.
Keep hammering them, Glenn. Who knows, you may even make a few journalists out of that gaggle of agenda pushers.
Meh - the Associated Press still refers to the recession as "The Great Recession" - as if that's a universally accepted term. The only people I know who call the recession The Great Recession are reporters for the AP ...
And now I see AP doesn't like "mistress" anymore. Geeeeze
AP last year ran a piece on how they will start capitalizing Black but not white. That was enough for me to stop giving them clicks.
Since I am white, I started to do the same thing (Black/white), sarcastically. What else but riot am i suppose to do in the face of such blatant racism.
I have always thought EXACTLY the same thing about "The Great Recession (echoes down the hallway, hallway, hallway...)."
It will make no difference: in service of a greater good as they will say.
Yeah like they're going to stop calling them insurrectionists.
I know, right? I mean in this case, (and hopefully going forward? who knows...) The WaPo must have rather have had a root canal than use "rioters" - but they did.
Wait until they feel obligated to tell the full truth abouth the TRESPASSERS!
Excuse me for being unfair to ARMED tresspassers.
except they weren't armed
I know, that was my point, but my fault for being confusing. The vast majority of law-breakers on Jan. 6 are only guilty of trespassing, and even the trouble-makers were un-armed. Watch the lying media, if they ever feel they must backtrack from "rioters," they still won't tell this whole truth.
I was pleased to read your take at the end of this piece. We know the officer was survived by his mother. I'm not sure what other close family he had, but I'm sure there were others. Tragically he died at the young age of 42. The media and Dem exploitation of his death can only have caused his poor mother and family greater pain. You hear it often - parents are not supposed to outlive their children. It's just beyond reprehensible. These vultures have very dark souls.
Do they have souls?
Are you sure?
I'll let God sort that one out.
They sold them long ago, or at least leased them to the highest bidder.
Thank you -- the family should sue the corporate media for deliberate fabrication and the suffering caused !!!