Hitler was not "right wing" He did not stand for any right wing policies. He never said "Our government is spending too much money, and I will cut the budget by 25% in five years." or "Our military is too big and I will cut the size by one third in five years." or "Our economists are too much in favor of government control over everythin…
Hitler was not "right wing" He did not stand for any right wing policies. He never said "Our government is spending too much money, and I will cut the budget by 25% in five years." or "Our military is too big and I will cut the size by one third in five years." or "Our economists are too much in favor of government control over everything and so I am asking Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek to set our policies." Of course, he said and did the exact opposites. And I have plenty of first-hand knowledge of Germany history, since my parents grew up there, came to the US in the 1930s, and had many contacts with German leaders after the war.
Classical "right wing", alter and crown was by definition CONSERVATIVE of tradition.
Fascism was revolutionary and sought to OVERTHROW tradition (because tradition had failed to protect the industrial working class from economic instability and against the threat of communist totalitarianism).
See George Lakoff's discussion of the "Strict Father" model of moral politics vs the "Nurturing Mommy" model.
I would add that the "Strict father" archetype is strongest in Neoconfederate country (Appalachia and adjacent) and "Nurturing Mommy" archetype in "Yankeedom".
"Strict father" = clannish, low social trust
"Nurturing Mommy" = liberal-Constitutional high social trust
I do agree with you that the "libertarian" small govt narrative is also largely bullshit, and trying to map it into classical definitions of left-vs-right verges on insanity.
How interesting! The National Socialist German Workers Party was NOT SOCIALIST! EVERY left-wing government has insisted on strong control of everything the people might do.
The Soviet Union was doing exactly what the Nazis were doing. "Stratified into a 'rightful order'": totally Soviet policy. Kulaks, anyone?
Hitler was not "right wing" He did not stand for any right wing policies. He never said "Our government is spending too much money, and I will cut the budget by 25% in five years." or "Our military is too big and I will cut the size by one third in five years." or "Our economists are too much in favor of government control over everything and so I am asking Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek to set our policies." Of course, he said and did the exact opposites. And I have plenty of first-hand knowledge of Germany history, since my parents grew up there, came to the US in the 1930s, and had many contacts with German leaders after the war.
Fascism was regression to (premodern) tribal-nationalist hero myth
Fascism was a revolution against both the "left" (liberalism) and the "right" (alter and crown)
The core archetype of fascism has little or nothing to do with historical reality of "left" or "right" (French National Assembly, 1789)
Again, look up the Hatemi research scandal about "psychoticism".
The genetic evidence is that the "left" is inherently authoritarian.
Also see Jonathon Haidt's work on moral politics: the left is morally imbalanced in comparison to traditional "conservative" religious culture.
Both fascists and communists were/are opposed to liberalism.
Both fascists and communists were/are opposed to "alter and crown" conservatism.
Both fascism and communism are rooted in the historical anxiety over the "death of god" (Nietzsche) and loss of social order.
Classical "right wing", alter and crown was by definition CONSERVATIVE of tradition.
Fascism was revolutionary and sought to OVERTHROW tradition (because tradition had failed to protect the industrial working class from economic instability and against the threat of communist totalitarianism).
re: Archetypes "all the way down"
See George Lakoff's discussion of the "Strict Father" model of moral politics vs the "Nurturing Mommy" model.
I would add that the "Strict father" archetype is strongest in Neoconfederate country (Appalachia and adjacent) and "Nurturing Mommy" archetype in "Yankeedom".
"Strict father" = clannish, low social trust
"Nurturing Mommy" = liberal-Constitutional high social trust
The "right wing" in the French National Assembly, 1789, was literally "Alter and Crown".
Fascism was opposed to both Alter and Crown.
I'm telling you that your ideological taxonomy is bullshit.
The left-vs-right narrative is idiotic in that it fails to capture a lot of reality.
I do agree with you that the "libertarian" small govt narrative is also largely bullshit, and trying to map it into classical definitions of left-vs-right verges on insanity.
How interesting! The National Socialist German Workers Party was NOT SOCIALIST! EVERY left-wing government has insisted on strong control of everything the people might do.
The Soviet Union was doing exactly what the Nazis were doing. "Stratified into a 'rightful order'": totally Soviet policy. Kulaks, anyone?