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This is a spectacularly brilliant political and legal analysis. I assumed Glenn's silence the last week or so meant he was working on something big, but this is far beyond anything I could have imagined. This is the finest writing and analysis I have seen in my 64 years. Glenn is a genius. A national treasure. A freedom fighter.

This is so extraordinary that I found myself pausing after every sentence to contemplate and savor. It is encyclopedic and irrefutable.

The power in Glenn Greenwald's mind and writing is incredible. We could even say that this bombshell is of nuclear magnitude.

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And will thusly be ignored by MSM. Not rebutted nor excoriated, b/c that would 'platform' his thesis.

The good news is that Legacy Media's influence on the population is at a nadir.

I wonder...how many people who voted Biden now regret their decision? I wonder how many people will be voting Republican in '22?

It's such a shitty choice before the electorate: continue to empower this faction of the ruling elite, who have been peeling away the power of the Constitution year in and out, or the Republican party, panderers to rampant capitalism and inequity.

I mean... the choice is either Tucker Carlson or Don Lemon, right?

Shit, I wish to Christ there was a 3rd alternative, but it ain't gonna happen in my lifetime (63). Instead, I see a 3rd American Revolution that will make the rivers of blood of the 2nd one (the Civil War) look like a schoolyard fistfight.

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Remember when Republicans were the party of capitalism and inequity? I used to think that way and then came the last 2 decades. Where BOTH parties have continually enriched themselves at the expense of “WE the people.” The only difference is Democrats play on emotions and have managed to escalate those emotions to a fever pitch making themselves the pied piper of the vengeful and insecure. Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety and the power of the individual for authoritarianism.

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The parties are just being more divisive because this divide and conquer stuff isn't working so well for them anymore. The real conflict is class conflict, precisely what they are trying to avoid. And i'm sounding like a Marxist. Ye gods.

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"The real conflict is class conflict, precisely what they are trying to avoid."

How can you actually think the political parties are trying to avoid class conflict?!?!

The real conflict is NOT among classes (a conflict forever ENCOURAGED by the State, and its captured party establishments).

Please stop being a Marxist. He was wrong!

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Marxist classes are those in charge, and everybody else. They don't care about your wealth, only theirs. They don't care about your identity, only theirs. Marxism is a tool to gain power. Only fools think it's a philosophy.

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Ok let's be clear here, i'm not a Marxist. I'm not an anything. These aren't colors to be worn like a gang or a jersey like a football team. Everyone had ideas. Well, some people didn't, they were just dumb. But Marx had ideas. Not all correct, but the meat of what he was getting at had a point. There is no compelling reason why wealth needs to be concentrated in a few, at the time nobles and such, while the vast majority of the population were either actual or virtual serfs, bound to their land.

Actual implementations of communism were notable for minimizing class differences - they got rid of the nobility, warlords, what have you - while creating a new ruling class, called the nomenklatura, at least in Russia. Access to this ruling class was way more egalitarian than the prior noble classes. Technically, the poorest peasant could aspire to be part of this ruling class. There was lots of corruption and nepotism, and the system was very far from perfect, but it was better than what came before it. It is not entirely clear what came after is better.

Here in the US, we have things like 'legacy' admissions to colleges. Every time I hear that word, I think 'noble class'. But it's never made to appear like you can buy your way into that golden ticket to a good corporatist life. Remember a couple years ago when all the Hollywood types were getting arrested for paying to get their kids in schools? That wasn't permitted, but legacies are.

What passes for class conflict in this country is the difference between a 28% and 35% top tax rate. An actual class conflict would involve questioning why functionally illiterate scions of old money families get into top tier schools while other high performing kids are left out. Or why it costs $$$ to get justice, so only the rich get it.

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Our biggest challenge is our inability to debate those who have placed a blind trust in our government bureaucrats ("the only EXPERTS that count") and politicians. There has never been an equal society for all, ever. We have attempted to offer equal opportunity and have made steady improvement over the past 236 years. Many fuck ups along the way and still many more to address. The current focus on only the worst while ignoring everything else and is playing to fear of a lazy public who's trust is abused. Sharing news of independent media with those you know care may be the best way to influence those who have trusted the wrong team.

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I whole-heartably withdraw my erroneous accusation, M. HBI! I should have said, "Please stop SOUNDING like a Marxist." My apologies.

I stand by my assertion that "class conflict" is a Statist diversionary tactic, and ONLY that. I subscribe to the economic freedom cry, "The best friend of the poor man is the rich man, not the State."

You are correct concerning the captured University.

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What do you mean you're not a Marxist HBI?

'If it walks like a duck'....ya know.

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You're confused about one thing. Just because you're a legacy of a college doesn't mean your kid automatically gets in. Being a legacy doesn't do anything except help admissions break a tie with another student when everything else is equal.

You said, "Remember a couple years ago when all the Hollywood types were getting arrested for paying to get their kids in schools?"

If being a legacy worked the way you say it does, there would be no scandal. The parents involved all went to REALLY good colleges so they don't need to resort to bribing coaches and fixing ACT scores if they could automatically get their kid into their alma mater.

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"Or why it costs $$$ to get justice, so only the rich get it."--HBI

That has nothing to do with 'Class' as Marx argued, it is because of the Corporatist Oligarchy, that is part of the Deep State, the National Security State...or as Eisenhower called it the 'Military Industrial Complex'.

https://thedissedent.page/2021/10/19/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

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Yes, but he was wrong because his labor theory of value was completely wrong and because he wasn't true to his own dialectical analysis of history, foolishly thinking that somehow the working class could overthrow the last oppressive class, the capitalist bourgeoisie, failing to see that the material dialectic would simply produce a new oppressive class to displace the capitalists -- Djilas's "New Class", the commisars in the parts of the world where control of the state came under those seduced by his ideas, and the professional managerial class in the parts of the world that stayed capitalist.

If you don't think the capitalists have been displaced, consider that vast amounts of capital actually belong to the working class, at least as beneficial owners, in the form of pension plans, that many of the rich have their holdings in mutual funds or ETFs and the shares represented by these are not voted in the interests of their beneficial owners, but in the guild interests of the professional managers. If you doubt this, consider the meaning of the phrase "golden parachute", and consider whether including such a provision in a top manager's contract is actually in the interests of the shareholders.

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The golden parachute can attract top Sr exec talent to take a risk. Keep in mind that I'm speaking of the GP offered back in my day (dinosaurs still roamed the Earth LoL)

I'm talking about a few years salary if it all goes wrong. CEOs do not get rehired if it all goes wrong (for good reason)

Also good for shareholders are huge bonuses based on performance targets achieved.

That said I just can't believe the crap that goes on these days! Those huge Sr exec bonuses? Not tied to performance anymore. And the amounts are absolutely absurd, like 20 years salary and not tied to performance

Kinda seems like they're getting paid to fail....

Because they are! Why? Dunno lol 🤣

Equity demands mediocrity? Plausible

Btw, to you Kendi cult CRT Racists who might read this, I'm not talking about Race. I'm a follower of Dr MLK Jr and his color blind society, you know the philosophy that inspired millions into the civil rights

movement to make actual real systemic Racism illegal in the USA.

Kendi cult members share the Ideology of David

Jim

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An excellent analysis/perspective. Thank you, M. DNY. Sorry, nothing of substance to add. I just felt a heart was insufficient.

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Marx wasn't even alive when others were butchering his words to push their own agendas.

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I think you underestimate the degree to which those who "butcher" Marx's words have actually, knowingly or unknowingly, been influenced by his baleful ideas to the extent that "their own agendas" would not have taken the form they have without Marx.

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His words live on. Yours might not.

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I would suggest that the real conflict is people's concern that they are locked into a class, not that there is a 'class conflict'. Upward mobility due to continuing wealth creation means people have hope. Redistribution of the same pie means people are stuck, so they agitate for more of the pie. A fundamental problem with the Bernie bros and AOCs of the world, they don't want to create wealth, they want you to share yours.

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If economics were a function of real production and consumption, I’d agree. That hasn’t really been true since at least the 1970s and most egregiously in the last three decades. Right now, reserve banks across the world are actively inflating fiat currency by buying securities directly. It doesn’t even feel like an emergency measure. They just do it. We have an illusion of an economy only powered by this funny money created out of thin air. There are no real consequences, and I think AOC and the Bernie bros may have hit on what is going to bring this all crashing down. That very lack of consequences.

I’m not going to attribute real foresight to such people, but they are a symptom of the problem. If the economy is fake and gamed to never fail by constant financial tricks, then politicians can’t resist giving free stuff out forever.

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All true, unfortunately. I was talking about the philosophy behind your original post. We have certainly entered uncharted economic waters, but eventually bills have to be paid or wars have to be fought. Let's hope for the former.

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AND, that (the "funny" money) is NOT Capitalism. It is Statism, and it is only a question of time....

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Inequity is just. Any attempt to force "equity" is forever and always unfair and unjust.

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All that matters is for society to allow the individual to be free to better their lot.

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Inequity means something entirely different in Democrat fascist world. It's called CRT or anti white racism which is what Dr. Kendi promotes. It is being taught at EVERY K-12 school in the country along with pro transgenderism

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Every time the wokesters say the word equity, this is what they mean-“Equity is the forced equal outcomes, taking the worst outcome that no one would want and making sure everyone gets it” the best definition of “equity” I’ve ever heard.

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Yes. Read (or re-read) Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut, published the year of my birth, 1961, and included in his Welcome to the Monkey House collection, 1968.

If I were Emperor (do NOT make me Emperor, but this would be good), I would use this short story to begin the de-programming of the woke.

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"Inequity is just."

I wish to amend that unclear statement thusly:

"Inequity is a natural result of justice."

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the GOP is not FOR inequality, they just recognize that human drive/ambition is different for people. To expect equality when work/effort differs is ludicrous.

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Steve -

I was simply repeating the original poster’s characterization of the R party.

I’m not at all a fan of “equity” my parents came here in search of the American Dream. They knew it was out of reach for them and they did not have means to help me. For THEM I worked to make that dream happen. I’m not wealthy, took 6 yrs part time study to get a degree and another 15+ years to buy my own home. Thank god my mother was alive to see it happen.

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I came from humble beginnings, I was the 1st one to graduate college in my family's history. My Dad was solidly blue collar, union member. He sacrificed to give me a shot. I ran with it.

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Ostensibly, at least.

for people like Liz "My father's name was Satan" Cheney the message is irrelevant, they are simply picking the best option for them that lets them stay in power

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Our political parties are two cheeks of the same ass and they both stink.

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One side stinks worse. Always vote for the less stinky. We don't get to choose the best, only the best available. Those who expect perfection are doomed to disappointment.

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If you go for all or nothing, you can end up with nothing most often. Rand Paul, Jim Jordan, Josh Hawley, are some good ones in my mind. Probably overlooked a few others. Cant really think of any Dems I could support. De Santis is another I like.

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Hmm... here in Missouri, we have some experience with Hawley in small government Republican circles. I first met him at a local event while he was in the primary for AG. He talked a VERY good talk then, answered off the cuff, was responsive to liberty-movement activists. I supported him then myself. That stopped once he won that primary. He very quickly became a typical politician, chasing big donors and campaign money, getting in bed with establishment GOP. He then broke his promises to us by leaving his AG term unfinished for the US Senate primary. I did not support him in that race.

That is not to say that he has not done some good things, some things I agree with-- he has-- but I neither trust him nor believe he is necessarily doing them for good reasons. He has also done very questionable things. In the end, if he thinks he doesn't HAVE to do something to win the next election, I doubt he will, and if it is a conflict between the public good (in the 18th century sense of the term, not its Progressive use) and campaign money, I am pretty darn sure which way he will go. I don't see any real difference between him and his predecessor McCaskill in that sense-- another person who did good things early on and got progressively (so to speak) worse.

Maybe I am wrong, but for my part, I would treat him with caution.

As for Rand Paul, I supported him and volunteered for his (state level) presidential primary campaign until he dropped out.

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The biggest problem in politics is getting good people to run. Your candidates don't seem interested right now, but its too soon to tell.

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This underscores the importance of vaccination. Those affected by covid - or thoughts of it - are unable to gauge the degree of stink or its hue.

Actually, the condition seems to apply to most regardless of any physical malady. It's mental.

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keep pushing the state's agenda herr jackboot

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Thats how they trick you. They had market researchers spend years analyzing what voters like and each party picks little issues here or there to identify their hard-line members.

Everything else is 'negotiable'. You know like when Tim Scott who swears he is a conservative and hates CRT has a big thing about race-specific laws on his website. Or like Big Cheeto pardoning Kwame Kilpatrick a lifer DNC corrupt fuck.

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If you dig deep enough, the truth leaks out.

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You gave two choices. Support the best candidate available, or whine about the choices and lose.

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So you tell us to perpetuate the false alternatives - and truth is, in action they aren't very different; both are the Plutocrat Party. That's why even a moderate like Taibbi supports a "3rd" party, and Greenwald denounced the Dems a long time ago.

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Doesn't matter if you like it. One of the two major parties is going to win. If you don't know which is worse, and if you don't support the better of the two, you get to live with whichever one wins. And you lose. Life doesn't often give us good choices. Success comes from making the best choice.

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At this point there are only two viable choices for the executive branch. GOP or DNC, anything else is a wasted vote. This is true of Congress as well in the main.

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I agree. My tiny optimist still lives inside my head despite what I read and hear each day.

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We can't make the world perfect, but we can make it better.

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While I agree with much of what you’ve said, I wonder whether you’ve actually watched Tucker Carlson or just incriminate him for being on a FOX cable show. You clearly don’t know anything about his worldview. Conflating him with the Main stream Republican Party or RINOS in the party is completely erroneous. And comparing and equating him to that vacuous moron Don Lemon, please!!

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Tucker Carlson is one of the most honest newsman there are in this screwed up society.

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I watch him on a regular basis and agree with you on that.

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What do you think of this Ms. Fritsche? Do you think the "establishment medical community" would want you to have this information?

https://sarahwestall.com/more-vaccinated-blood-images-accomplished-goal-to-change-what-is-human-w-maryam-henein/

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https://youtu.be/l6Eu9Y7Sf_Q

Biden’s Mad Mandate Is Ripping The Country To Shreds

Nuclear scientists dismissed. First responders booted. Doctors and nurses axed. Pilots put on leave. And Biden’s “mandate” has not even been promulgated by OSHA. The country is being ripped apart…and that may be just what they want. Meanwhile, Biden’s numbers continue an express elevator downward. What’s the end game?”

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No Mona, I am not particularly interested in Viktor Orbán.

Do you think that Joe Biden is doing a good job as the President of the United States?

Are you in favor of a global government and giving up the sovereignty of the United States?

Are you are Neo-Marxist collectivist? Or do you support the principles presented in the Declaration of Independence?

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Whoa...whoa... yes I've watched his shows! I agree w/ much of his stuff. And he's got some points of view I find repulsive (esp his latest inflation scare-mongering: tl/dr: NOBODY knows what's happening re inflation and to say otherwise is disingenuous- the data's not set yet)

I've also watched him in long form interviews on Rogan/Rubin etc etc...

He's a good shit, but he's also performative.

And I deliberately put him into the same league as Lemon b/c Matt already took Hannity and Madow for his book cover!

So, I guess you think he's kinda okay, right? :)

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“Nobody knows what’s happening with inflation and to say otherwise is disingenuous” Jim, the point is there is inflation, it’s not transitory like “the big guy” and his coterie of liars is saying. Have you been to the grocery store or gas station lately? You were doing ok until you mentioned Tucker and inflation. Now your equating him with hannity or mad cow?? Stop the gas lighting. This article by GG is perhaps his magnum opus to date.

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Inflation = endless Fed money printing.

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I agree and should have included that.

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I can't agree w/ your take (despite our agreement on Biden). My reason is that the inflation that's affecting us (try paying $6/gal for premium gas like we do in Canada, and meat at Costco up here has gone up about 30%) is specific rather than general. The world economy is still shaking out from the pandemic right now, getting its head around the fact that its endemic. We'll see where it is in a year.

If I'm wrong, oops. If you're wrong, yer a mindless ignorant creepazoid.

BWHAHAHA! jk

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Increasing prices is the definition of inflation. It's caused by government producing too much money. So, your "oops" is correct. Hope you learn from it. Many don't.

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I don't get what you are saying about Carlson at all. I have a bad feeling about you and your reason for you commenting here Jim M.

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Well, I'm more than my take on Carlson. On this topic, I'm okay that you think highly of him- after all, I'm a fan of Rogan and Breaking Points.

We both dig Greenwald, right?

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Well Mr. M,

I don't think you get it. I don't think you have really kept up with Tucker Carlson's broadcasts if you don't see him in a favorable light. Rogan is all over the place with his opinions...a tough guy and great fighter, but wishy washy in his opinions. He is not straight ahead and on the head of the nail like Carlson. Rogan is sporadic and distracted, and chatty.

Yea, we all have the right to our own opinions. No problem there. But my opinion trumps yours in my opinion...Lol.

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I guarantee everyone that Glenn will be on with Tucker this week to discuss this.

AG Garland had better reign in this 1/6 Committee’s Un-Constitutional shenanigans and quickly.

Or, maybe just let their totalitarian show go on so the whole world can see these “legislators” for who they truly are: Un-American traitors to The Constitution they all swore to “preserve, protect and to defend”.

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“AG Garland had better reign in this 1/6 Committee’s Un-Constitutional shenanigans and quickly.”

Why? What evidence do you have that leads you to believe anything will be done about it or that anyone will be held accountable?

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Exactly. We have already seen that the bureaucracy doesn't care about silly things like the Constitution. I mean, how do you just change an FBI 308 to say the opposite of what was actually said, and get away with it? Thus, sending a former cabinet member/General's life into a legal tailspin in the MSM? So far, an attorney was sentenced (suspended) and that's it. Lux et veritas? I don't think so.

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Well, there's always Russell Brand. :)

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Not for nothing, I think Brand's a UK version of Joe Rogan.

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Russell Brand is a very smart guy.

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Unfortunately with nearly all our communications being monitored by our government agencies the ability to even organize a peaceful protest without being labeled an enemy of the state looks grim. The deception currently being deployed through the partnership between our media and government means we no longer have even a semblance of an independent media we can trust to keep government power in check. Tucker is playing with fire and I hope he can hold out long enough to convince more people how dangerous the deception has become. We need a none of the above option on all elections.

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It does not matter how they vote. What matters is who counts the votes.

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Didn't Stain make that point Hugh?

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Yes, I still hear the network news, The View, and the late-night shows shoveling the "insurrectionist" meme. I heard part time musician and full time gasbag Bruce Springsteen spouting the "vote blue or there will be violent revolution" crap on Colbert Monday night.

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Tucker and Don work together. The illusion is that they are offering you a choice.

The reality is you and voters like you have picked one of these two parties for almost 200 years. We joke about things like the masonic lodges and shadow governments but how many people know all of that is true?

How many people have read about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

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“Tucker and Don’t work together”, “the reality is you and voters like you have picked one of these parties for 200 years”. I’m not sure what’s worth, your equating a vacuous moron like Don lemon with Tucker Carlson or the dripping condescension or your superior intellect.

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While Tucker yells at the left and Don yells at the right the two of them are splitting the control of the country.

At some point you realize they aren't really against one another they are simply providing that illusion.

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"While Tucker yells at the left and Don yells at the right the two of them are splitting the control of the country._--Iconoclast

Impossible, Tuckers ratings are ten times higher than Don Lemon's.

Carlson has the best ratings in the nation at this point.

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You know, your name/handle is perfect. As near as I can tell your dislike or hate just about everything written here. What’s the difference between you and ANTIFA??

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Hahaha...You finally figured Iconoclast out!

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I dislike government on any side telling people how to live their lives. I dislike almost every established politician, their media allies, and almost every big corporation.

You know who I respect? People who follow the rules and succeed despite them. People who have integrity first and self second. I love conservative christians and even liberal hippies AS LONG AS THEY DONT PUSH THEIR AGENDAS ON OTHERS.

Ironically most of these people have done LSD. Coincidence? I think not.

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There are alternatives to the duopoly parties; primarily, the Greens on the left, and Libertarians on the right. But Oregon, for one, has 8 ballot-qualified parties, last time I checked. If the People's Party gets off the ground, there will be yet another - though I wish they wouldn't split the left/progressive vote before we have Ranked choice Voting.

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Nope Charles, nation wide it is only the Dems or the Republicans. or the vote is wasted.

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More choices = wins for the people. Until the shitlords figure out how to co-opt non-established candidates :(

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Ranked choice voting? Another progressive way to disrupt elections. Are you from Portland?

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Benton County, where RCV is already in effect. You're in Oregon?

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I’m far from the failed state of Oregon, geographically and politically.

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Im pretty sure I hate Oregon as much as anyone I've ever met but if we are talking failed states you can just sweep the east coast into the shitheap because all of it is trash, corrupt, and will have to die for it to ever get fixed.

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Pandering to the false alternative of the duopoly parties is giving in to the prospect of a violent "3rd revolution."

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Inequity is another word for the results of freedom and an indication of the rewards available to those with initiative and brains.

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Agree. This is a masterpiece. I read the entire thing slowly, saved it to several research files, and flipped it on social. I then gave it to my husband and told him that this was a "must read."

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When I read this article today I became a paid subscriber. I appreciate Glenn for having journalistic integrity, perhaps fact-filled articles like this one will inspire other journalists to break free from the constraints of MSM to seek the truth and report it accurately and fairly.

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He's just stubborn enough to risk his life for truth. Not many can say that. Certainly not anyone working at the NY Times these days.

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Amen. Fantastic article.

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glenn's been kicking ass since he started writing. very much a national treasure. what I like most is he doesn't pull any punches and calls bs on any person or group no matter ideology or political party.

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The problem is we need many more people like Glenn to mitigate the army of left and right wing fascists that have taken control of the government- especially in recent years. No one is safe with these totalitarians in charge and they like their power and do not want to give it up.

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This one article is worth the price of a year’s subscription. I don’t have anything to say but thank you - I’m still digesting and dealing with my feelings after finishing it.

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Absolutely agree, Sigsegv!

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I thought the same thing!

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Yep, I subscribed right after I read it. Brilliant.

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I love how the narrative requires pretending there was no unrest or violence after Trump won in 2016, pretending there was no plans for violence in case he won again, and pretending there have been no forceful occupations of legislatures for political purposes in the past. Anyone remember the Wisconsin state capital or the Kavanaugh hearings?

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I clearly remember 'NOT MY PREISIDENT!' marches on election night right after all of MSM called the election for him. First time in my life (63) I ever saw such a thing happen on election night.

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At least they didn't do much to try to change the election result to their liking.

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No. Those leftist terrorists just made sure the People couldn't have their non-politician, non-captured, non-Statist POTUS ever again.

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Uh, Jim M and I were talking about the election night protests in 2016. You may be talking about 2020, but there is no credible reason to think leftist terrorists overruled the People in either the 2016 or the 2020 election.

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Yes, "leftist terrorists" was an in-appropriate term, and I rescind it. Please substitute "the lying Clinton-Democrats with their security-state apparatchiks whose wise elitism would save the country from the Evil freedom-loving, non-captured, non-Statist Republican lay voter, one way or another".

And I know exactly what M. Jim M was talking about. I perhaps mistook your post as a snide indictment of the millions of peaceful Americans (which include the thousands of Jan.6 peaceful OUTSIDE protesters excercising their wonderful freedom) who NO LONGER TRUST THE INTEGRITY OF U.S. FEDERAL ELECTIONS.

If so, I'm sorry.

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In general, I don't have a problem with those who peacefully protested on the outside of the Capitol on Jan. 6, and I know one of them slightly.

The integrity of elections could be a lot worse and could also be better; I've tried to do some to improve it.

That said, I hope I will never be the kind of person who experiences a drastic change in how far I trust elections as a result of influences that largely trace back to one high-ranking politician's desire to maintain power.

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Two systems of justice is abhorrent

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No zip ties were brought in the Wisconsin or Kavanaugh examples.

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The zip ties were already in the Capitol according to prosecutors. The guy shouldn't have been in there or picked the zip ties up, but it is different than some sort of planning implied by bringing them himself.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/capitol-riots-zip-tie-guy-190644133.html

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A standard false/misleading point that's circulating on the right. You act as if the zip ties were just brought by "the guy" who picked them up in the Capitol. I have been in many protests in many official buildings, and I would never be tempted to pick up zip ties in the very unlikely event that I found some lying around, nor would I expect other protesters to do so. And the idea that the zip ties were all just found lying around isn't very credible either. In particular, you are wrong in implying that there was only one "zip tie guy" who took part in January 6th; multiple participants in Jan. 6 had zip ties with them. I'm willing to face what that means.

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You are wrong Randal fucking Rose. Two people picked up bundles of zip ties, according to testimony taken by the prosecutors, both gave the same reason, they didn't want to leave them there for the cops to use to handcuff any of the protesters. Glenn Greenwald discusses this issue in one of his articles. I have never known Greenwald to get his facts wrong.

When have you been in "been in many protests in many official buildings" and how many bundles of zip ties did you see just lying around?

Now tell me why anybody should believe any of the crap you come up with here?

The first guy that had the zip ties was with his aging mother, who backed up his story of finding them on a table.

When you say "I'm willing to face what that means." ... What does that mean Rose? That these 'protesters were going to catch themselves a Vice President and hang him? Did you see the miniature "gallows"? It was a movie prop. You might have been able to hang a pussycat in that little noose, but certainly not a man.

You are trying to frame the Jan 6 event as an 'Insurrection", aren't you Rose?

You are a fucking Democrat operative aren't you. You are in the party with a jackass for their logo. You are a dissembling assbite. Aren't you?

I don't believe a word you say.

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You write about 1 (one) trespasser, and attempt to make a mountain of a mole-hill.

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No, I said it wasn't just 1 trespasser. I disagreed with Ryan S because he thought that just 1 trespasser had zip ties. There were multiple participants in the Jan. 6 uprising who had zip ties with them, not just Eric Munchel (and his mother) who Ryan S was referring to. So, although Munchel picked the zip ties up inside the Capitol (saying "Zipties. I need to get me some of them motherfuckers"), that hardly explains away the more widespread presence of zipties at the uprising. Munchel also had a taser with him. See this prosecutorial memo which was linked to in the Yahoo News story that Ryan S cited: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.tnmd.85025/gov.uscourts.tnmd.85025.8.0.pdf

And for documentation that zip ties were carried by multiple Jan. 6 participants (not just Munchel and his mother), see these photos:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/zip-cuffs-capitol-riots/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/politics/capitol-zip-ties-arrest.html

Again, I'm willing to face what it means when multiple people carry zip ties (and a taser) to the place where elected officials are making their official decision about the 2020 election outcome. It is a minor attempted coup.

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Launching a coup with zipties and a taser has to be the lamest thing in all history. It makes it to be the joke that it is. Like a comedy sketch or something. Improv at the Capitol.

Besides which, all the normal arguments apply here. Taking over the Capitol has about zero implications in terms of real power. The

White House was a bit down the Mall, that would have been a better coup target, or one or more of the Executive departments. It's not a coup d'etat unless you intend to control the government.

I'm reminded of the Brumaire coup, for which I will venture an extended quote from "The Campaigns of Napoleon", Chandler:

"The events of the following day, November 10 [1799], were almost catastrophic, and responsibility for the near-débâcle lies heavily at Bonaparte’s door. The new regime wished to disguise their assumption of power under every appearance of constitutional legality, and this involved winning a favorable majority vote in both the Anciens and the Cinq-Cents. The latter presented the problem, for Jacobin elements commanded a majority of support, and the influential Bernadotte was known to be hostile to Bonaparte, but it was hoped that the influence of the President of the Council, Lucien Bonaparte, would win over sufficient waverers to defeat the Left. The day got off to a bad start, however, when it was discovered that the halls at St. Cloud were not yet ready to receive their distinguished visitors, and the ensuing delay afforded the Jacobin opposition the chance to lobby for more support and plan their moves. As soon as the halls were at last opened, a full-scale debate began, while General Bonaparte and his supporters waited with growing impatience outside. In due course this frustrating inaction proved too much for our Corsican’s patience, and, seizing the bull by the horns, he prematurely entered the building and addressed a fiery speech to each assembly in turn. He was soon shown that he could not deal with the representatives of France in the same arbitrary fashion that had served to overwhelm the sheikhs of the Cairo Divan. The Anciens received their unconstitutional tirade in stunned silence, but the Five Hundred refused to hear him out; rising from their places with shouts of “Hors la loi” some Deputies even drew daggers. They drove a disheveled General Bonaparte and his perspiring escort of grenadiers out of the hall, down the stairs and into the courtyard below.

The crisis of the revolution had suddenly arrived. The troops received their ejected leader with considerable consternation, and some of the generals visibly hesitated. Thibaudeau, an eyewitness of the scene, recorded the passing of this dangerous moment. “The first instant of stupefaction was, however, followed by tumultuous cries—the effect of Bonaparte’s address to the troops. The arrival of his brother Lucien with his energetic eloquence dissipated the last doubts and restored everybody’s determination. I then returned to the Council of Five Hundred. Instead of taking vigorous measures against Bonaparte after expelling him from the Chamber, they were losing time making vain threats, indulging in useless discussions…. Had they declared him an outlaw, Augereau and Jourdan, who were ready, and Bernadotte, who was secretly waiting for the event, would probably have been able to proclaim the decree, bring over the Consular Guard (which did not share the same feelings as the regular army) and overawe the other troops…. The outcome of the day only hung on a decree one line long or a dagger’s blow.” However, in the event, the Council’s prevarication and hesitation proved fatal. “I heard drums beating the charge and saw soldiers penetrating into the legal chamber; the onlookers disappeared in a cloud of dust, and the majority of the Representatives … hastily retired through the windows which were fortunately on a level with the garden outside.”5 And so the new regime surmounted what might have proved a fatal crisis of confidence. Later the same night, Lucien rallied a rump of the Council and rushed through the necessary legislation approving the Provisional Consulate. The Directory was gone, and practically bloodlessly. “This astonishing and salutary revolution has been made without any shock; it was urgently required,”6 wrote Lefebvre to Mortier five days later. From this time on, General Bonaparte rarely made a political mistake."

Note that Napoleon had fully armed grenadiers escorting him. Grenadiers were usually of large stature, wore bearskin caps, and were considered heavy infantry - melee troops.

My point is that I just gave you a description of a real almost failed coup. There is no comparison with 1/6. No coup attempt.

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Two guys have zip-cuffs in those photo Rose.. Munchel and his mother, and one other guy with Two zip-cuffs in his hand. That's it. Why are you exaggerating this shit when anyone can go to your link and see that you are on a hyperbole flight.

"It is a minor attempted coup."--Randal fucking Rose

A "minor" coup? What a load of bullshit Rose.

It was more likely a false flag operation by the FBI:

https://thedissedent.page/2021/07/01/fbi-role-in-1-6-2021

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Snopes and NYTimes are State-captured. Please stop believing them.

In any case, I will grant that a handful of criminals were present. How many were working for the FBI?

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Errr…using Snopes or the NYT as authorities blows your argument up…like a right winger who uses Fox News as an authority.

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No zip ties were brought on Jan. 6, either. They were found inside the People's chambers.

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Every so often, the Tree of Liberty needs refreshed by tying a tyrant to it.

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The Tree Of Liberty is watered with the blood of tyrants. Zip ties are forever optional.

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Are zip ties the new smoking gun, M. Randall?

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Uh-huh -- the evil aim of tying tyranny into the Tree of Liberty is exactly what would be achieved if some people succeeded in using forcible means (zip ties or whatever) to change the official determination of who won the election.

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Randall fucking Rose is very mixed up and had best not make any further comments. He is making an utter fool of himself.

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(Phisto Sobanii's deleted post said in its entirety "Every so often, the Tree of Liberty needs to have a tyranny tied to it.")

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Jefferson said it better; 'The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure."

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(Would that M. Phisto re-post, so that I could give him my heart for his comment.)

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Today's 'Writer's Almanac' mentions the birthday of Arthur Miller, and concludes with this quote reflecting his thoughts on his play 'The Crucible'

""Poetry may seem an odd word for a witch-hunt," he wrote in 2000, "but I saw there was something of the marvellous in the spectacle of a whole village, if not an entire province, whose imagination was captured by a vision of something that wasn't there. [...] More than a political metaphor, more than a moral tale, The Crucible, as it developed over more than a year, became the awesome evidence of the power of human imagination inflamed, the poetry of suggestion, and the tragedy of heroic resistance to a society possessed to the point of ruin."

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Great analogy to "The Crucible" not only about 1/6, but other elements media frenzied mass hysteria

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Are you saying that the huge number of peaceful protesters OUTSIDE on Jan.6 (as opposed to the relatively VERY small number of trespassers inside, and as opposed to the even smaller number of violent trespassers) are somehow caught up in a false frenzy?

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I think he's referring to the Left's hype of it. The HORROR of WhiteSupremacy.

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I heard that and it rings true to much of the tyranny of the authoritarians - create a false fear and get everyone to fall in line. BTW -"wear that mask, take that Jab, and Trump is a racist."

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I just watched an interview Tucker did with Walter Kirn and, he mention The Crucible, 1984 and, a lot more literature that prophecies the reality now.

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I'll put hard money that neither of those works you listed are required reading anymore in most of the nation's public schools. We had to study both in HS in the 70's.

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True. Neither of my kids (out of high school just 1 and 2 years read them. I did buy 1984 for them....will do the same with The Crucible.

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Yes. Have one in and one pending. I recently purchased 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Animal Farm, Brave New World, A Tale of Two Cities, Lord of the Flies, Heart of Darkness, and The Crucible for them.

When recently asked by my oldest what I wanted for Christmas, my reply was for her to read them and spend time discussing them with me.

Although I would agree to let Apocalypse Now stand in for the Conrad, if combined with Dr. Strangelove and A Clockwork Orange were also watched.

Both children will be forcibly exposed to Monty Python and Mel Brooks.

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I would hire you as my children's educator.

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And waiting for the proper time to gift them with GG and Taibbi subscriptions.

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Excellent! Saved....and thank you!

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Darkness at Noon should be mentioned among the relevant literature.

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I'd include "Lord the Flies"- a proper description the generation of sociopaths populating the universities today

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A bit of good news: there was a real "Lord of the Flies" situation, a boatload of boys marooned on an island the Indian Ocean. They were very successful in cooperating, and were alive and healthy when found, months later.

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"Lord the Flies" is a great book. We read it in my Humanities class in high school, and a week of discussion on it. A fabulous class with a far sighted excellent teacher.

A few years later the film came out...awesome as well.

HEART OF DARKNESS by Joseph Conrad, seems to me to be vital reading.

And on the same subject: KING LEOPOLD’S GHOST: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa (1998) by Adam Hochschild

It was this subject that lead to the famous quote: "Doctor Livingston I presume".

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TROPIC OF CANCER....Delightful & raunchy....

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I always appreciate the parallels that Glenn provides across the political spectrum. Both parties are guilty of this behavior. As always well written and I wish we had more true journalism and the patience to read these types of pieces. Thank you Glenn.

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yes we are suffering from an abundance of power mongers. they don't care which party, as long as the path leads to power. they are the source of evil in the world.

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Only ONE party is in control now, and it isn't the 100-year-wayward Republican one. Please stop trying to equate the true partys (the ones defined by their lay voters). Republican VOTERS are currently in the long process, basically started in 2016 with the non-capturable horse DJT, of reclaiming what should have been the party of Classical Liberalism all along.

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Yes....please!

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Glenn is the new ACLU 💗

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Don't insult the man, okay?

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Well, M. (triangle)V did say "new."

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I believe ΔV is pronounced delta-V -- which perhaps reinforces ΔV's point.

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I'm a mathematician. That is a triangle first, and a Greek letter commonly used to signify "the change in x" second.

And I know none of this is important, but could someone please help me find (triangle/delta) symbol on my keyboard?

Now, (delta)V might be "change in velocity." How does that reinforce (triangle)V's excellent point about a change for the better at a quasi-public institution that, like all public institutions, and especially quasi-public ones, has not just out-grown its original function, but has fucked it all up?

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Using an Alt keyboard shortcut to insert the Delta symbol

You can press the Alt key in combination with numbers on the numeric keypad to insert the Delta symbol: Press Alt + 235 to enter lower case Delta (δ).Aug 7, 2021

How to Insert or Type the Delta Symbol in Word (Δ or δ)

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Thanks, M. William!

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Timothy, you would need a special math font set to find all those symbols. and then they still might not transfer to the web.

I found the infinity symbol and the "is exactly" symbols on the web...these obviously translate perfectly here on the web.

I cannot find the 'mu' symbol and several others though.

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[1≡∞] : Infinity symbol and the "is exactly" symbols.

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I believe that "fuck Joe Biden" goes quite well with 'Fuck Randall Rose'

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Maybe he hasn't quite given up on the old one -- I thought that one reason why he discussed McCarthyism at some length was to appeal to the ACLU.

It would be kind of a positive development if Greenwald could be the new ACLU, but realistically a one-person ACLU isn't feasible. Besides, even if he had the superpowers to be a one-person ACLU, can you really see Greenwald doing the ACLU's role on immigrant rights?

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You don't ken metaphor, do you.

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I can see that Randall fucking Rose has overstayed his welcome here tonight and should buzz off now.

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I suppose I shouldn't have waited until now, but the very word 'insurrection' is bad English in this case. Insurrection doesn't mean what you want it to mean, it means a rebellion against a government of some kind. Even if you take the 1/6 people at their word, they were trying to compel Pence "lawful authority" to take some kind of action "not accept slates of electors from certain states". That's probably not legal somehow, but it certainly isn't an insurrection. Probably explains why the charges have been mostly trespassing type stuff. Ironically enough, CHAZ in Seattle _was_ an insurrection.

The fact that so many people keep repeating this just means they are sheeple. Or dumb.

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Note: Initially it was "armed insurrection" -- armed was dropped since not a single weapon was ever found.

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Just like the "unarmed Jacob Blake" (Kenoshan who was shot by police). It took Blake himself telling Michael Strahan in an interview that he had a knife to finally convince all of the media despite video evidence and officer statements.

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A knife is not a threat unless it's in someone's hand - and even then, it's a risible weapon against a properly trained and equipped cop. they should not be allowed to shoot people just because they're waving a knife. There should have to be blood on the ground.

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Not only was it in his hand, as madaboutmd says, but it was +definitely+ a potential threat to the children in the car he was trying to drive away with despite a restraining order and despite clear instructions from the police (the restrainer order and the call from the mother being the reason the police were there in the first place).

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Precisely! We live west of Kenosha and my son's first year in college was delayed a week (goes to school in Kenosha) because of the ensuing riots! All Jacob Blake had to do was not resist arrest. And guess who was lost in the entire thing? The abused girlfriend! So much for #metoo!

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Lol! It was in his hand. Are you a cop putting your life on the line every.single.day?

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There are about a dozen jobs more dangerous than copping, among them convenience store clerk.

Police are trained, equipped (armored), and paid to take certain obvious risks. The civilians they encounter are not. Therefore, it's the cop's job to take the risk; transferring it to civilians to protect their own skin is pure cowardice - and a step to a police state

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"copping." Right.

As in, "Not tonight, honey. I think I'll go out and do a little copping tonight. It's been a while, after all. Those innocent citizens better watch out!"

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You're going down a rabbit hole now--a total non-sequitur. This was about Jacob Blake actually being armed.

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And - a bit on St. Obama:

A Company Family: The Untold History of Obama and the CIA

By Jeremy Kuzmarov - October 1, 2021

A Company Family: The Untold History of Obama and the CIA - CovertAction Magazine

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2021/10/01/a-company-family-the-untold-history-of-obama-and-the-cia/

( Barack Obama is a spook, from a spook family, and his political campaigns were financed by spooks… )

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It has always reminded me of what they used to call slave uprising in the south. 'Slave Insurrection' The entire thing is ridiculous. How little anyone cared about Babbit being shot after the Floyd thing was particularly enlightening. Every play act (false flag) act of the State always has a flavor of incredulity. How was JFK shot like that? Unlikely. Why would Paddock tear thru a concert and bullet proof glass like that? Highly unlikely. No motive ever found, the narrative is full of holes. Dude in horns & little old lady holding an American flag a terrorist threat? Um, ok.

At least when you're lied to about Santa Claus its cute. These fairytales of the State have an element of hate for the citizenry. Sociopathic levels of disrespect for average people. Let's Go Brandon. It's the perfect metaphor, it sums it all up. This is the regard they have for your ability to discern truthfullness. Anatomy of the State should be required reading. The State is a Parasite. Period.

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Dang, I wish I wrote this, so I'll just repeat myself:

The greatest thing about Democracy is it forces the majority to own their political/social philosophies, and therefore, over time, to correct itself.

This accountability SHOULD corral the State, which, forever and always, is the enemy of the free People. Unfortunately, when it doesn't, revolution is required (hopefully bloodless, but freedom isn't free, as they say).

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Go on DuckDuckGo and search for “Kavanaugh protest storm”. I am still waiting for someone to explain what storming the capitol, senate chambers etc was encouraged just 2 years prior by democrats while now it’s suddenly become an “insurrection”.

How CHAZ was allowed, burning churches and court houses and innocent businesses was allowed but bunch of yahoos walking into the capitol, lead and allowed in by the capitol cops, walking in straight line within the red velvet ropes is somehow “armed insurrection”?

Somehow trump supporters are the biggest gun owners and yet not a single gun was found on these armed insurrectionists. “DNC liberals” have become some of the biggest mental gymnastics experts and authoritarians.

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You know the 'leaders' are full of shit because they refuse to release all the video evidence. If it was so damning, that footage would be running on TV 24/7.

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Great point

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Appreciate you recommending DuckDuckGo rather than evil Google.

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“ bunch of yahoos walking into the capitol, lead and allowed in by the capitol cops, walking in straight line within the red velvet ropes is somehow “armed insurrection”

Uh huh. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572

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Did NBC show the video with the head to toe black clad “insurrectionists” breaking in through a side door in full view of Capitol police?

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Some were supported by Capital Police, and some Capital Police actually, uh, did their job? All kinds of blueline dickheads supported Trump…because he supported police violence.

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One does not have to be a Trump supporter to ask can you give a single specific example of Trump’s support of police violence?

Also - was that Officer Michael Byrd’s shooting hand in the video? If not then I guess he’s a liar.

Also the 20-somethings that were smashing windows etc don’t appear to fit in the Trump-supporting demographic.

A hypothesis: could this be another instance of radicals blending in? I’m not saying either way. Isn’t it plausible? I was not there so I can’t know what happened. Just saying I do not rely on any media outlet to provide sufficient credible information.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuaVTxLlXoU

by searching “Trump encourages cops”.

I also searched “Trump encourages cops Fox News” and found nothing. I guess that you watch Fox News.

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overly simplistic and incorrect assessment.

Your evidence a reputable source William James Dennis (aka Willie D - rapper and songwriter) starts off by saying “your president.” No wonder you think NBC News is also credible.

I do watch Fox News. I also watch MSNBC and Vice and Newsmax. Then I use my brain - logic and probability. Not talking points of a rapper with one “like” (probably yours) on YT.

Now try this:

https://www.justice.gov/ag/presidential-commission-law-enforcement-and-administration-justice://www.justice.gov/ag/presidential-commission-law-enforcement-and-administration-justice

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Thank you. Those two words sound trite, don't they. Thank you. But how do I express what I feel deeply after reading this extraordinary indictment of Congress, the Democrats, and the lapdog press. Glenn, you stand alone, heads above your fellow journalists. I have to ask again: Will you do the college circuit and speak directly to America's youth? We can only salvage the Constitution by growing the numbers of courageous journalists and by educating (as opposed to indoctrinating) youth. Again, thank you.

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LOL! There isnt a Dem indoctrination school or uni who would allow it..

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Prager U or some such similar kind of format would be awesome for Glenn!

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I truly believe that Glenn would appeal to college students, as opposed to the conservative speakers already on the circuit. He can speak to them as no one else could. Plus, his credentials are off the wall -- a working investigative and independent journalist. We must get onto the campuses and get the students to open their minds. It would be a great patriotic act. Would that I were a billionaire and could foot the bill.

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Impressive article and background research, with sobering comparisons to past episodes of Congressional unconstitutional overreach.

This sums it up:

"This congressional committee is designed to be cathartic theater for liberals, and a political drama for the rest of the country...They have staffed the committee with their most flamboyant and dishonest drama queens."

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I knew exactly who Glenn meant when he said « their most flamboyant and dishonest drama queens ». Still it’s hard to think of Liz Cheney as flamboyant? Isn’t she just stodgy and attention-seeking?

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I think she will also be losing her bid for re-election a year from now.

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I think the Cheneys and the McCains, and all the old Rep neo-con (or neo-con fellow traveler) Authoritarian Socialists have been relegated to the dustbin of history. Good riddance.

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Kinsinger and Schumer are pretty flamboyant, no?

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I’m surprised SNL hasn’t spoofed Kinsinger yet. Just pour buckets of water over his head with Kleenex boxes scattered all around him.

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Flamboyant implies stylish to an extreme degree. Perhaps their way of speaking is flamboyant, but not what you see when you look at them. Actually, if they had purple hair with sequins and flame shooting fake red finger nails, it might be an improvement.

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Schumer is Ed Koch level flamboyant.

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I don't know why but Schumer reminds me of Jerry Springer...

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Ha! (Except honestly, I can't picture a Schumer smile. Is there NO human joy in the man?)

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Schumer is a cold blooded reptile.

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He reminds me of a Springer Spaniel....with mange.

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Very nice article! A couple thoughts:

1) The left really shot themselves in the foot with the most recent 'protest' in DC that looks like a mirror of 1/6. Clearly they had to re-start 'protesting' sooner or later, though.

2) Exaggerating 1/6 might be Biden's best move. Everything else that he's touching is turning to shit. Note that this still isn't even a GOOD move, only Biden's best possible move. What else is he going to run on?

3) It's cute how 'the resistance' doesn't understand how these laws will be turned on them as soon as they are no longer useful. I guess that's what makes them useful idiots!

OT4) I've gotten a couple emails about this, and yes I am banned from Twitter (for a 100% sarcastic comment!) and I have very little hope (or desire) to get back on. Thinking about starting up a substack instead.

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Also banned from Twitter unless I do this or that which in my mind amounts to begging forgiveness. And yes I still think Maxine Waters could use a good smack in the mouth.

I simultaneously share and fear your 3rd point. What happens when year after year of governance becomes a pissing match? If this is how the country will continue perhaps it really is time to consider going our separate ways.

I have no political affiliation. my primary political allegiance is to the U.S. Constitution and it is clear that this the single most important cornerstone of our democratic republic is actively ignored.

Why Joe Biden is not in handcuffs is a mystery to me. Every day the border remains open he, Harris, Mayorkas, Garland and others are clearly in violation of federal law. Forget impeachment - I am talking about criminal charges of the highest order.

Serious question: Does anyone here (aside from GG) have a background or understanding of laws that would preclude criminal action? I’ve asked on other forums and done a little research but I haven’t been able to figure it out.

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"Also banned from Twitter unless I do this or that which in my mind amounts to begging forgiveness. And yes I still think Maxine Waters could use a good smack in the mouth."

I initially got banned for calling Jennifer Rubin a "skank"....who thought that that would be too much? So I settled on "miserable shrew" and that seemed to pass muster. In the end I closed my account after the Trump shutdown and will never go back. I just have a problem with banning Trump but leaving all the Iranian, Taliban and CCP accounts active.

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If they hadn't nuked all my following/followers I wouldn't even care because I'd be able to track people down on substack and contact them through emails. Now I'm starting with literally nothing.

Still don't care, they were throttling my subs for a long time, and now I don't have to deal with the Twitter Bots every day.

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Sorry that happened to you. Twitter's administration stinks. And for months they've rejected connections through Tor Browser/NoScript -- which is nowhere near as bad as what happened to you, but still reduces the chance that I'll ever want to have an account with them.

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Twitter…obeys the Democratic Party. When Clinton lost in 2016, liberals totally lost their shit. Now, talking to a liberal is like talking to glassy-eyed pro-lifers.

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Exactly what are "glassy-eyed pro-lifers"?

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I got banned from Twitter for saying Pelosi and Hillary were eating each other's cunts...

Yup...I had a couple of days to delete that comment. I did...after all they both already saw the comment. What the hell....

I like to upvote the good twitter comments I see. I don't usually make to many comments there.

I now have a blog on Wordpress and a Substack newsletter.

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Sir/Ma'am, may I please edit number 3: "appalling," or "alarming," not "cute."

More importantly, concerning number OT4, I would be your paying subscriber, and as such, and as a never-Twitter from birth, I could demand that you publish a "best-of" your Twitter posts!

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Well now it's up but first thing's first -- we need a name! ;)

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2084.

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Implying a looong road ahead?

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Or, 2034, implying you were just off by HALF a century, and adding to today's urgency.

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Did you see Biden's speech yesterday on the 40th anniversary of the Law Enforcement memorial? It felt like the majority of the speech was 1/6 and Beau Biden. The poor guy just can't help himself.

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Like I said, it's the ONLY thing that he can talk about because everything else is so obviously going to shit.

Without the backing of the corrupt MSM, Biden would be impeached or worse at this point. Luckily for us, reality has a way of inserting itself into the conversation. Ask the people in Kabul.

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“ If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged.” - Noam Chomsky

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The USA has been goose stepping around the world for decades. It’s business has become everybody’s business.

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As soon as the previous administration, and in particular the CDC spokespeople who are still running the scam even as the prior administration is largely history, cast the policy responses to covid as a war, it became obvious they were lying about it, they were going to tell more lies about it, and they were going to use it as they use all their wars of choice; to enlarge their powers and their purses at the public's expense. (This is not to claim that there is no covid19 virus, or anything else of that nature; I have no reliable means of knowing and less interest in finding out. My target is elsewhere and my point aimed otherwise.)

In casting the Jan 6th events as an insurrection (weakest-ass fake FBI insurrection I ever saw, and that includes false flag attacks on the US that never happened at all, like Gulf of Tonkin) it likewise became obvious that this was following the same old script and for the very same reasons.

They are lying about it, they are going to tell more lies about it, and they are going to use those lies to enlarge their powers and their purses, both as ever at your expense.

While I value Glenn's legal expertise and passion for truth extremely highly and I value his civil liberties extremism even more highly, such that he is the only journalist I pay any consistent attention to, I do not trust any of the organs of government to ever tell the truth about events like this one. We are all going to be obliged to form our own opinions based on whatever hopefully-reliable information signal we can extract from the resounding noise of the full court press agents of the regnant oligarchy. This article is an excellent place to start.

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What American liberals seem to overlook or is the fact that many of their political opponents are discussing things considered unimaginable just a few years ago, as a result of things like this committee. As someone on the right, I can tell you that discussion of the breakup of the country is everywhere on the right at the moment, and with a seriousness that cannot be dismissed. There are strong movements to just cease participating in the system, to withdraw completely, to form alternative communities for people to turn to. If the right could find an effective spokesperson for these sentiments, I think it would create a tidal wave of support that the left could scarcely imagine. And because liberals now have become religious in their fervor for prosecution of their opponents, they ignore, in a self-righteous manner that is to their peril in my opinion, the counter-currents currently active on the other side.

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I’m pretty sure Liz Cheney is not a liberal.

Liberal, conservative, or something else, the peril is to us all.

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Liz Cheney IS fundamentally a liberal. Neither she nor her father have ever stood for anything meaningfully conservative in their whole lives. Most members of the GOP should simply be seen as Right-Liberals.

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I believe M. Doc was refering to the fact that Ms. Cheney is not a CLASSICAL Liberal. She is a so-called neo-conservative, which today is synonymous with NEO-Liberal, which is the OPPOSITE of a Classical Liberal.

Neo-conservatives and neo-liberals are Statist bedfellows, thus the love for Cheney among Democrats.

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You mean the rabid power grabbing? I'm sure unelected 3 letter agencies have always had this in mind. You don't endlessly feed a military industrial complex forever without ambition, you know?

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Whack jobs were whining that Obama was gonna take away their guns since at least 2010…a bunch of “Support Our Troops” jerks.

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So because Obummer's 2013 gun control bill failed, what he tried to do does not matter? You know what? Fuck off.

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That just happens to be one of the reasons why I have no problem saying fuck Ronald Regan. Fuck George H.W. Bush too while we are at it. That CIA spook had no respect for the Second Amendment either. By the way quit trying to move the damn goal posts.

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Totally. Reagan and Bush, and most Republicans for that matter, were and are only Right-Liberals. They are not conservative in any meaningful way.

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You live SO far in the past, in a different age really. Grow up!

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Imagine if Rush Limbaugh was still alive and well.

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I can. He wouldn't be doing anything that he wasn't doing when he was alive.

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Differences between parties are not much. Just enough to divide at election time. They all believe in the same stuff, mostly corporatism and a justice system driven by money.

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Having lost the war of ideas long ago, the sociopathic lunatics in the government & deep state understand that in order to survive as parasites, they must quash dissent. Best exemplified by the cowardly, crying rabbits in Congress on 1/6, when faced with the natural result of decades of abuse of the US population, they erect a safety fence to protect them from the consequences of their malpractice.

After 9/11, we had the opportunity to take a cold, hard look at what our government & intelligence services had created, resulting in all of those deaths. Instead, we listened to another idiot President, while waving our flags , spending the ensuing 20 years sowing death & destruction among one innocent population after another.

This apparatus we have funded since WW II has spawned a parasitical death cult which has now turned its sights firmly on US.

Like a parent, who has grown tired of Johnny’s temper tantrums, it’s time to recall what our country used to stand for and take out the belt.

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Consequences work better than the belt.

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In M. Joseph's defense, I believe that is what was meant, despite the, perhaps, poor choice of metaphor.

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The Capitol Riot is being used as a Reichstag Fire excuse to suppress civil liberties of Democrats' opponents. Laundering free speech suppression through Big Tech doesn't change the fact that Democrats are suppressing opinions they don't like. Locking up political opponents indefinitely in solitary confinement for misdemeanor offenses is abuse of power. One inmate has been denied treatment for a broken hand, cruel an unusual punishment, while being held without bond or a speedy trial.

Intimidation is used openly to prevent 1/6 defendants from obtaining effective legal representation. The government has refused to release video evidence that could exonerate the defendants.

We no longer live in a free country.

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It is also being used to remind any Dem opponents who object to their OBVIOUS ELECTION FRAUD, never to challenge them again

How long will It take all Americans to realize that Democrats have ZERO intention of ever allowing them to lose power again?

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It's interesting to see right-wingers up against law enforcement abuse. Usually they deny it, being set on "law and order."

Welcome to the club.

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It's not OK for Democrats to allow "mostly peaceful" riots in cities they control. Antifa/BLM riots killed dozens, injured hundreds and damaged billions of dollars worth of properties. Antifa/BLM rioters should be prosecuted, not let go with warnings. The lack of prosecution is the reason the riots continued from May through the rest of 2020 and up until now.

On the other hand, if 1/6/2021 rioters are charged with misdemeanors, why do they need to be held in solitary for an indefinite period before trial. What I object to is the patently inequal enforcement of the law, and the violation of the Bill of Rights.

The left doesn't have much respect for the rule of law or the Constitution. All they care about is who's winning, their side or Republicans. I think Republicans have more respect for the law as written.

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"The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' -- this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats." Aldous Huxley

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