Bernie Sanders has had DECADES to put out meaningful legislation. Hes never done it. He has 2 bills in his entire career and one was naming a post office. He tweeted how SC spends 2x on inmates what they spend on students....VERMONT SPENDS 3X ON INMATES WHAT IT SPENDS ON STUDENTS, and ships its fucking inmates out of state. The dude is a bullshit artist. TO. THE. CORE.
Bernie is a southern hemisphere socialist, hes 100% full of shit when you look at the hard facts.
He is not called the *amendment king* for nothing. Most of his meaningful legislation is tacked onto bills written by other senators. He is the reason why $600 checks (pittance as that may be) became part of the stimulus package. The for-profit prison system is a national disgrace and not particular to any one state, but Vermont's inmate population is quite low both in and out of state. We also lack the number of colleges and universities of many other states so it stands to reason that we spend less than some on higher education. Bernie is many things but a bullshit artist is not one of them.
Right so hes not a bullshit artist hes just pointing at SC as a state for spending 2x on prisoners what it spends on students, while at the same time ignoring the fact his own state is worse and spends 3x? That's not being a bullshit artists?
Have any of the MENSA members here that support the socialist Sanders ever considered that SC spends more on prisons because they have significantly more criminals than VT?
Ignore facts and support candidates spreading misinfo much? I only took issue with Bernies mouth because I had both gone to school in SC and been in jail there so I feel I have firsthand knowledge of the very facts he is quoting. Since I also lived in VT I knew Bernie was full of shit and always has been.
How about you, you are OK with Bernie pointing at someone else as a "bad example" when his own state is worse off? You don't think thats a bullshit tactic? Really?
As someone who lived in both states they are apples and oranges. The main difference that I would point out is that Vermont is like 21st in median income and SC is like 45th or something.
So one state has both higher incomes and a more complex tax system with corresponding social services supporting it.
Bernie is a United States senator who works out of DC. He does not hold a political office here in his home state, nor does he have any authority over our state's budget. I think a lot of you are missing this fact.
He's been a senator for 13 years. He was also a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Vermont's at-large district for 17 years and mayor of Burlington for 8. Thats 40 years of nothing just like the rest of the lifers in the DNC. Joe Biden being a prime example.
You are cheating yourself as a voter if you think all your rep has to do is yell angrily about capitalism and name post offices. At least, in my opinion.
I've spent years in VT from Winooski to Bennington and lived in NH for 5 years. I know VT as well as any non-resident, I'd like to think. I also have friends who live there.
Just keep deflecting away from the facts I posted refuting the lies your liberal friend posted. 1 Bill dude. 1 Bill that wasn't a Post Office, in 40 years. If thats what you think qualifies as a good politician, well it explains a lot about the DNC.
From my understanding Ind Sanders had a deal with the Dems - he wouldn't cross them in Congress and they wouldn't run a Dem against him for the Sen - Obama and Schumer endorsed him when he ran.
When Conyers, et.al introduced their roughly 20 page M4A bill in the House, HR 676, Sanders, instead of slapping an S in front of it and introducing it in the Sen, introduced his own 200+ page bill - moved to have it read into the record, but after 1/2 hour or so of the Clerk's reading, when told that it was interfering with Sen business (no doubt naming more POs) withdrew the request - he sat down and shut up - his routine MO when told to do so.
There are so many more examples along the same line - he is tolerated in order to put a "prog" face on the party - to keep lefties from bolting and to keep them donating to Ds instead of 3rd parties whose actual platforms align with their principles - I can't help wondering what Stein could have done with the $200+ million given to Sanders in '16 ...
Bernie Sanders has had DECADES to put out meaningful legislation. Hes never done it. He has 2 bills in his entire career and one was naming a post office. He tweeted how SC spends 2x on inmates what they spend on students....VERMONT SPENDS 3X ON INMATES WHAT IT SPENDS ON STUDENTS, and ships its fucking inmates out of state. The dude is a bullshit artist. TO. THE. CORE.
Bernie is a southern hemisphere socialist, hes 100% full of shit when you look at the hard facts.
He is not called the *amendment king* for nothing. Most of his meaningful legislation is tacked onto bills written by other senators. He is the reason why $600 checks (pittance as that may be) became part of the stimulus package. The for-profit prison system is a national disgrace and not particular to any one state, but Vermont's inmate population is quite low both in and out of state. We also lack the number of colleges and universities of many other states so it stands to reason that we spend less than some on higher education. Bernie is many things but a bullshit artist is not one of them.
Right so hes not a bullshit artist hes just pointing at SC as a state for spending 2x on prisoners what it spends on students, while at the same time ignoring the fact his own state is worse and spends 3x? That's not being a bullshit artists?
What's he doing there then?
Have any of the MENSA members here that support the socialist Sanders ever considered that SC spends more on prisons because they have significantly more criminals than VT?
It's per STUDENT and per INMATE, not total, for the jackbooted nazis in denial.
Ignore facts and support candidates spreading misinfo much? I only took issue with Bernies mouth because I had both gone to school in SC and been in jail there so I feel I have firsthand knowledge of the very facts he is quoting. Since I also lived in VT I knew Bernie was full of shit and always has been.
How about you, you are OK with Bernie pointing at someone else as a "bad example" when his own state is worse off? You don't think thats a bullshit tactic? Really?
" ever considered that SC spends more on prisons because they have significantly more criminals than VT?"
What would be the reason(s) for that?
Culture
Please be specific as to what about SC's "culture" causes it to have more crime than Vermont?
As someone who lived in both states they are apples and oranges. The main difference that I would point out is that Vermont is like 21st in median income and SC is like 45th or something.
So one state has both higher incomes and a more complex tax system with corresponding social services supporting it.
IsnтАЩt there also a huge difference in crime, especially violent crime, between the two? Or between VT and most all states?
There are thousands of papers/discussions alleging correlation between median income and crime. Put it in a search engine if you need.
More criminals.
Bernie is a United States senator who works out of DC. He does not hold a political office here in his home state, nor does he have any authority over our state's budget. I think a lot of you are missing this fact.
He's been a senator for 13 years. He was also a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Vermont's at-large district for 17 years and mayor of Burlington for 8. Thats 40 years of nothing just like the rest of the lifers in the DNC. Joe Biden being a prime example.
You are cheating yourself as a voter if you think all your rep has to do is yell angrily about capitalism and name post offices. At least, in my opinion.
I've spent years in VT from Winooski to Bennington and lived in NH for 5 years. I know VT as well as any non-resident, I'd like to think. I also have friends who live there.
In 40 years of government, in a completely dominated DNC state government, and he still cant get anything done and here you are his apologist.
Do you visit him at his lake house and talk about how bad the political elite are while reminding him how he backed Hillary?
Good points you bring up Marci about him not being the main sponsor, but that is another problem I have with DC as a whole and not Bernie specific.
This is an outright lie:
"Bernie Sanders has had DECADES to put out meaningful legislation. Hes never done it"
He has authored more legislation enacted into law than any living politician in the USA. He's done it by amendments, riders and reconciliation.
Another day, another one of your FALSE ALLEGATIONS refuted by facts.
https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?pageSort=dateOfIntroduction%3Adesc&q=%7B%22bill-status%22%3A%22law%22%2C%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D
Thats Congress.gov's official record of the three bills he got passed, two were post offices, sorry. He still has 1 bill. Ever.
Or is congress also lying?
Also what fucking color is the sky in the world you live in?
amendments, riders and reconciliation
three of the four horsemen of broken American politics right there
Just keep deflecting away from the facts I posted refuting the lies your liberal friend posted. 1 Bill dude. 1 Bill that wasn't a Post Office, in 40 years. If thats what you think qualifies as a good politician, well it explains a lot about the DNC.
From my understanding Ind Sanders had a deal with the Dems - he wouldn't cross them in Congress and they wouldn't run a Dem against him for the Sen - Obama and Schumer endorsed him when he ran.
When Conyers, et.al introduced their roughly 20 page M4A bill in the House, HR 676, Sanders, instead of slapping an S in front of it and introducing it in the Sen, introduced his own 200+ page bill - moved to have it read into the record, but after 1/2 hour or so of the Clerk's reading, when told that it was interfering with Sen business (no doubt naming more POs) withdrew the request - he sat down and shut up - his routine MO when told to do so.
There are so many more examples along the same line - he is tolerated in order to put a "prog" face on the party - to keep lefties from bolting and to keep them donating to Ds instead of 3rd parties whose actual platforms align with their principles - I can't help wondering what Stein could have done with the $200+ million given to Sanders in '16 ...
LOL - how many "Ind 'socialists'" ARE there in Cong.?